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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted May 07, 2011 03:20 PM

It could very well be that they are re-thinking some bigger elements of the game. As we saw the creature pools were originally planned, but they scrapped them and went for the traditional dwelling system instead. That shows good thinking and decision making in my book. I hope that trend continues, and I hope that it's these kind of things that are the reason for the delay. There is no reason for people to be testing out a game with a common creature pool if that's not going to be in the final product. I'm just hoping now, but it doesn't seem too far fetched.

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Naze
Naze


Known Hero
posted May 07, 2011 04:17 PM

I know, that I am complaining about the same thing again and again, but look at the picture of Kraal... isn't he sweet? ehm, I mean strong and muscular? This is exactly how an orc should look like. Just give him a helmet and his model can represent all the tavern heroes... What is so difficult for Ubihole to make it? I mean, 99% of us (as I see) would like to see at least 50% of the Stronghold heroes being an orc, harpy, centaur or other beastman.
The same goes for Sanctuary - Akasha already has a helmet, so there is no problem and Yume can get a mask, or whatever... So, the only problem is with Inferno, but there is pleeenty of time till the game release.

I think it is Elvin, who brings the new FAQ's, and in one of them he highlighted the words "start complaining". Well, I am complaining (and for almost 400 pages, other people are complaining as well), but it doesn't seem that Ubihole listens to the Internet communities... so, if there is an official web-petition, or whatever, please post me a link and I will subscribe me and all the members of my family, which I know

Yeah, and not to forget, I want the 3D town screens back

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted May 07, 2011 04:18 PM

About the closed group of insiders and all that. I might not like the way there were chosen (whatever that was), and all the secrecy about it, but I understand and kind of support the concept of not having to work with feedback from 10's of thousands of testers. Of course when you only have a small group of testers, they may miss things, and an idea might have come up from a larger group which doesn't come up here - but at least it's possible to have a dialogue with such a group.

My main objection, and that is a real objection, is that they chose to make a closed test group and then didn't listen to what they said. As when they showed them Sanctuary line-up, and people complained about too much similarity between River Maiden and Glory, or the absurdity of an Ice creature in jungle setting - and they still stuck with their own ideas. And then, lo and behold, when news went public, people here had exactly the same objections. That's essentially just making fools of the insider group.
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Naze
Naze


Known Hero
posted May 07, 2011 04:29 PM

It seems, that your objection gives an answer to my complaining...

"We are too lazy to remake or even reconsider anything in our game. But, to seem big, cool and important, we promise you a lot of delays, useless FAQ's and redundant usage of the word soon. With regards, Ubihole."

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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted May 07, 2011 04:46 PM

404 Sorry This page doesn't exist in Ashan !

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Charrclaw
Charrclaw


Known Hero
posted May 07, 2011 05:12 PM

I want demon lords back...

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smithey
smithey


Promising
Supreme Hero
Yes im red, choke on it !!!
posted May 07, 2011 05:30 PM

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About the closed group of insiders and all that. I might not like the way there were chosen (whatever that was), and all the secrecy about it, but I understand and kind of support the concept of not having to work with feedback from 10's of thousands of testers. Of course when you only have a small group of testers, they may miss things, and an idea might have come up from a larger group which doesn't come up here - but at least it's possible to have a dialogue with such a group.

My main objection, and that is a real objection, is that they chose to make a closed test group and then didn't listen to what they said. As when they showed them Sanctuary line-up, and people complained about too much similarity between River Maiden and Glory, or the absurdity of an Ice creature in jungle setting - and they still stuck with their own ideas. And then, lo and behold, when news went public, people here had exactly the same objections. That's essentially just making fools of the insider group.


The way I see it the main points of having those insiders are :

1. To sort of say - we do care abot what you guys think (publicity stunt)
2. To have fans(insiders) defend their (ubihole's) interests and make excuses on their behalf

So far that is exactly what's been happening, insiders do feel like they have an obligation towards ubihole hence they indeed are always trying to "explain certain decisions to fans", I have yet to witness any sort of an actual - We listen to the fans and we do change stuff accordingly.

To sum it all up, the concept of insiders has been the only smart move by ubiole so far because many people don't really see it for what it really is

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted May 07, 2011 06:32 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 18:34, 07 May 2011.

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't have agreed to join that group if Marzhin weren't involved (because I know he actually listens to the forums).

There are people here like Alcibiades or Vlaad who are much more deserving of a place in there than I am (and would probably do a better job of relaying what the forum says), so you can see automatically that it's already a bit flawed

Due to the secrecy and NDA I suppose there will always be a bit of disapproval or contempt about it, but what can you do, it's simply the best direct link to the developers that's on offer for us.
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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted May 07, 2011 06:54 PM

The undoubtedly most annoying part is that the insiders have turned into an ad hoc PR department for Ubisoft and their official aren't doing absolutely anything to give the impression that they communicate with the outside world via other means (save the occasional planned info releases, the vast majority of which are disappointing - quantitatively an qualitatively). Thus the "we are listening to the community" slogan looks even more artificial.

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lordriton
lordriton


Known Hero
posted May 07, 2011 08:14 PM

They are not lazy,  they just ask themself why they should work at H6 so hard when the Mayas said the end of the world will be on 21th december 2012 ?   I think they just relax as much they can for that 1 and half year that is left,   we should just do that too  

New release date:  December the 21th of 2012


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Seraphim
Seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted May 07, 2011 08:22 PM

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They are not lazy,  they just ask themself why they should work at H6 so hard when the Mayas said the end of the world will be on 21th december 2012 ?   I think they just relax as much they can for that 1 and half year that is left,   we should just do that too  

New release date:  December the 21th of 2012





Too bad its a hoax,I would love if 2012 was real.Dont take me wrong,it is just that life on earth sucks.I'd rather see a spectacular end...

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smithey
smithey


Promising
Supreme Hero
Yes im red, choke on it !!!
posted May 07, 2011 08:33 PM

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Too bad its a hoax,I would love if 2012 was real.Dont take me wrong,it is just that life on earth sucks.I'd rather see a spectacular end...


If your life sucks, do something positive with it

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lordriton
lordriton


Known Hero
posted May 07, 2011 10:11 PM

If your life sucks, it's because there is no love, find your love and be happy with her/him for the next ...  1 and half years


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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted May 07, 2011 10:46 PM

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There are people here like Alcibiades or Vlaad who are much more deserving of a place in there than I am (and would probably do a better job of relaying what the forum says), so you can see automatically that it's already a bit flawed
Thank you for your kind words, but it's not true: I read like 1% of the forum plus didn't care for H5, not to mention your obsessive–compulsive disorder unparalleled knowledge of the series. You and Elvin were the perfect choice. Don't know why Alci is not in though. I guess good guys finish last.

P.S. Is that chicken female? Looks lean compared to the others...

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xerox
xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted May 07, 2011 10:50 PM

I think there should have been some giant super complicated quiz that elected the VIPs and then the best of those got interviewed etc. Not because they are "famous" people. Like a job application. >;P

What was that research thing they were doing a year ago anyway? You had to write in what your favorite creature and faction in the series was in the series etc. Where did that lead?
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Tastes like chicken
posted May 07, 2011 11:48 PM
Edited by Elvin at 23:49, 07 May 2011.

I think everyone who has known me for a while is aware how much I love heroes and has seen me bash ubi on more than a few occasions. I am not going to defend myself but I'd think it is evident that if I have any interest it is to promote a better H6 as much as I can help it.
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Warlord
Warlord


Famous Hero
Lord of Image Spam
posted May 08, 2011 03:22 AM

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If your life sucks, it's because there is no love, find your love and be happy with her/him for the next ...  1 and half years




And repeat.
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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 08, 2011 11:43 AM

There are many ways to help to get a better game then just be an insider. I for my self know a would make a crappy insider put I try to inform my local community and other things like communicating whit the local publisher.

There are many thing you can help whit. Ideas, promotion, map making... The insiders are the most important part of the communication whit the developer. but each individual member of the community can contribute to its perfection.

For example I wanted to help Cepheus whit the M&M wiki, by adding some of the pictures I have in my PC, but realized that I can't because I have them all in my native language
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Voii
Voii

Tavern Dweller
Apprentice
posted May 08, 2011 12:03 PM
Edited by Voii at 14:56, 08 May 2011.

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New release date:  December the 21th of 2012



Not only it's a hoax, it has been miscalculated. I've read an article that the "end of the world as we know it" will happen around year 4000. So, there is a chance that we will see HoMM6 before that.

About VIP's, it's definitely a good thing their opinion is taken under consideration. Not only they have a huge knowledge about HoMM series, but they were able to express that and gain popularity. But, maybe Black Hole considers them tiny walking forums, thinks that their opinion is the same as the rest of players. why more feedback then? In that case we will be given demo instead of beta. Exclusive for preorderers only to cut the whining, with imaginary bug report system.  
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vitorsly
vitorsly


Known Hero
Joker!
posted May 08, 2011 03:44 PM
Edited by vitorsly at 15:45, 08 May 2011.

So...
This sure has a lot of Ubi bashing. And the problem is, it has problems?
Ah my head hurts more when I read this forum than when I play portal 2.
Well from what I understood you like the idea of insiders but you think Ubi is doing it wrong?

PS: My brains is eletrocuted because of Portal 2 so get ready for SERIOUS misundersanding!
(does that word exist? If it does it is the biggest word I ever typed)
EDIT: NO wait! The problem is 2012?! Where did we reach that point?!

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