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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted May 12, 2011 05:58 PM |
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We get a beutifull shot of the promising Darkness elemental and you people start talking about that mermaid/siren gossip whit most of people here do not know the truth about.
Look its dark, made of black and purple shadows and has tentacles.. Why lose time on a floating feather girl we don't even have a clear shot of?
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yaeliccc
Known Hero
Undead, but warm and fuzzy
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posted May 12, 2011 06:01 PM |
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Edited by yaeliccc at 18:02, 12 May 2011.
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Nighty, you've never seen Mermaid Saga I assume? Immortal (to all but a poison concoted from teir own bodies) flesh-eating women-like things that take on the appearence of whoever they eat. They look quite horrifying and are far from defenceless.
I still think it's a cat. A flying cat with a peanut butter sandwhich on its back.
thats ludacris... u obviously never ate a flying cat in a sandwich otherwise u wouldnt be talkin nonsense, here...
nothing like the sea witch
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted May 12, 2011 06:19 PM |
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Just for fun
How do I Image a Mermaid
How do I think Nightty images a Mermaid
I was thinking of using Ariel for the nice one, bute chosed these two because they are from the same author
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seddy
Known Hero
Spinner of delicious cupcakes
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posted May 12, 2011 07:11 PM |
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thats ludacris... u obviously never ate a flying cat in a sandwich otherwise u wouldnt be talkin nonsense, here...
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted May 12, 2011 07:33 PM |
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Sea-based units are stupid anyway in a game like Heroes, I mean sure they could exist in the lore, but as a unit?
Units like Sharkmen are okay I guess since they actually have legs, but mermaid only have the lower body of a fish how would they move on land?
Maybe if it was the opposite that the upper body was a fish and the lower body was human...
(But they I'll bet many people wouldn't like them at all  )
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 12, 2011 07:41 PM |
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Maybe if it was the opposite that the upper body was a fish and the lower body was human...
(But they I'll bet many people wouldn't like them at all )
I totally lol'ed at this. 
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What will happen now?
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mike80d
Famous Hero
Map Maker
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posted May 12, 2011 08:07 PM |
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Sea-based units are stupid anyway in a game like Heroes, I mean sure they could exist in the lore, but as a unit?
Units like Sharkmen are okay I guess since they actually have legs, but mermaid only have the lower body of a fish how would they move on land?
Maybe if it was the opposite that the upper body was a fish and the lower body was human...
(But they I'll bet many people wouldn't like them at all )
I like what they did in Homm4. They had a giant sea monster that would move around the ocean. And Pirates had much improved stats when fighting on a ship. There were a lot of unique concepts in that game that unfortunately got lost.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted May 12, 2011 08:30 PM |
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Sea-based units are stupid anyway in a game like Heroes, I mean sure they could exist in the lore, but as a unit?
Units like Sharkmen are okay I guess since they actually have legs, but mermaid only have the lower body of a fish how would they move on land?
Maybe if it was the opposite that the upper body was a fish and the lower body was human...
(But they I'll bet many people wouldn't like them at all )
No they are not!
Aquatic creatures may seem limited to some people but they are essential for lore, game play and diversity.
If you look at any heroes except heroes VI (I might count this as one of few things I like about that game) the water is extremely boring. There is no chalange on it.
The water eviroment is drasticly unused in heroes.
I'm am playing Disciples II at the moment and there are just 4 merfolk unites and still it is enough to feel the power of the see.
I general if there is one thing heroes can take an example of in Disciple its neutrals.
And even in Might and magic I there were creatures that you could only encounter on the see. Why did they not do this in heroes?
Wouldn't it be awsom to travel by bout and sudanly a kraken or electric eal would appear from nowhere?
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Tomash
Hired Hero
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posted May 12, 2011 09:06 PM |
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Don't you think two of elementals: light and water, are faction units? Glories and Spring Spirits?
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What about the neutrals then?
They will also be 8, amongst which the phoenix and elementals. They may seem few but bosses can be used like neutrals as well.
Will there be elementals in the game?
Six of them, one for every element.
So 8 neutrals among which 6 are elementals
No, no, no. This is not written anywhere that every elemental is neutral.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted May 12, 2011 09:12 PM |
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@Dave and Nighty
Yeah sure, now the Haven armies just need to exchange their swords and bows and start arming themselves with fishing rods instead...
Sea battles, here we go!
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Seraphim
Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
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posted May 12, 2011 09:20 PM |
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Whoever is a modder in here plz ohhh pretty plz replace the spring river with that neutral red sea witch once the game comes out coz i actually wanna play with that faction without havin a nervous breakdown....
Depends on how moddable the game will be.There is nothing that points for or against this argument though.
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julle
Adventuring Hero
Simply FABULOUS!
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posted May 12, 2011 09:22 PM |
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The creatures hover above the ground (like in pokemon) or craw on deck like the homm4 terrible sea monsters model, as these creatures can't move on land only for a short time they are able to craw or jump aboard ships.
i think it might be better if you entered a special type of battle map, at least for Champions, like say the Kraken. it could "grab" the ship and you have to attack its tentacles for it to let go. theese would change place and attack, for example.
the leviathan could swim besides the ship, and ram it now and then, damaging and sending your units flying bacwards, while your units try to attack it.
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 12, 2011 09:27 PM |
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No, no, no. This is not written anywhere that every elemental is neutral.
It has been confirmed by the insiders. It has been discussed and debated over and over and we came to the conclusion that Ubisoft failed big time.
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Dexter
Known Hero
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posted May 12, 2011 09:42 PM |
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No, no, no. This is not written anywhere that every elemental is neutral.
It has been confirmed by the insiders. It has been discussed and debated over and over and we came to the conclusion that Ubisoft failed big time.
Actually for me the Elementals should be neutrals. I perceive them as some kind of incarnation of the forces of nature, and as such binding them with any faction seems strange to me.
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 12, 2011 09:44 PM |
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Oh it wasn't about the elementals being neutrals, it was more about only having 8 neutral of which 6 were elementals and of which 2 were faction creatures ^^
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hahakocka
Known Hero
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posted May 12, 2011 10:48 PM |
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I hope there will be 2-3-4 more bosses or neutrals because of the delay. May be they can do that. Hope long lasts. 
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tsar-ivor
Promising
Legendary Hero
Scourge of God
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posted May 12, 2011 11:50 PM |
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The delay is to 'polish' the game up, parhaps you'll recieve something small for the 'inconvenience', but only if were lucky, they're blunt with news, try not to read too much into it lest you get disappointed  .
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted May 13, 2011 05:15 AM |
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Don't get your hopes up, they probably cut some more neutrals before they even think of adding some more...
Prime example, the Snow Ape that we were supposed to get in H5, but mysteriously got cut from the game. To my knowledge, we still never got an explanation as to why they did that.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted May 13, 2011 08:53 AM |
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Don't you think two of elementals: light and water, are faction units? Glories and Spring Spirits?
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What about the neutrals then?
They will also be 8, amongst which the phoenix and elementals. They may seem few but bosses can be used like neutrals as well.
Will there be elementals in the game?
Six of them, one for every element.
So 8 neutrals among which 6 are elementals
No, no, no. This is not written anywhere that every elemental is neutral.
The light and water elementals are not the Glories and Spring Spirits....the latter are "spirits".
For instance the Glories do come from light elementals but were elevated by the Dragon-God of Light to a higher, spiritual status...
There is mention that the bosses can be neutrals too, remember, 8 neutrals PLUS 8 bosses. Here's my take on the bosses:
- Mother Namtaru (Necro)
- Archangel Michael (haven)
- Dragon Eel (Naga)
- Arch Devil (Inferno) (from trailer, bigger than H5 Arch devil)
- Thunderbird OR Behemoth(Stronghold)
- Black Dragon (on T-shirt in collector's edition)
- Emerald Dragon
- Magma Dragon
I reckon there might be a few dragons as bosses as they are not in the factions anymore (except the Naga)
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 13, 2011 08:59 AM |
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Here's my take on the bosses:
- Mother Namtaru (Necro)
- Archangel Michael (haven)
- Dragon Eel (Naga)
- Arch Devil (Inferno) (from trailer, bigger than H5 Arch devil)
- Thunderbird OR Behemoth(Stronghold)
- Black Dragon (on T-shirt in collector's edition)
- Emerald Dragon
- Magma Dragon
I reckon there might be a few dragons as bosses as they are not in the factions anymore (except the Naga)
I don't recall seeing an archdevil in the trailer. Pretty sure there won't be a behemoth in the release and as for the CE creature it was not a black dragon. For one it had no wings
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