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seddy
Known Hero
Spinner of delicious cupcakes
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posted May 21, 2011 12:26 PM |
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If you're gonna do some gender switching, make the breeder male. All those tentacles are already causing Freudian followers to collapse.
I' also be in favor of a goblin girl after seeing the latest video and wondering if she'd have the same voice actor.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2011 12:38 PM |
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A girly stronghold wouldn't really work. I mean barbarians are meant to be club smashing types so a female unit other than a shaman or a ranged one..
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tsar-ivor
Promising
Legendary Hero
Scourge of God
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posted May 21, 2011 01:49 PM |
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Haha elvin 'barbarians' are the ones who are most renowned for including females in their armies in history. One of the reasons why romans regarded them as inferiors.
I'd be 'more-then-happy' to erect a thread to discuss the role of women in HOMM and which factions they'd be most/more suited for (according myth ofc).
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Wckey
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 02:14 PM |
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Quote: Let's be even more original - male Mother Namtaru!
Male spiders usually are smaller, so it wouldn't be much interesting...
So, what do you think about making Glory male and Pit Lord female?
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Kenishi
Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
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posted May 21, 2011 02:21 PM |
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Edited by Kenishi at 14:25, 21 May 2011.
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Quote: Female centaurs ain't nothing new to fantasy.
*adds links to a bunch of pics*
True but not the Heroes franchise, and regarding the rest well not really sure of any other games with female centaurs ... than again haven't played all of them so I'll take your word for it
@Elvin .. not all of the stronghold but lats say a unit whit an amazon like concept of female warriors not society like ways for orcs would be welcomed (true there is the harpie but, there beast mean not orc), because I fell that some of the females are either supernatural beings and have to be accepted in the ranks like Spring Spirit, Radiance etc. and not part of the race... and further one with the reasoning healers are women (Sister, Coral maiden) and the only female that actually is dangerous and, how to say in control is type casted as a ill repute woman like character (Succubus).
All this are my honest opinions and I'm not saying that they've done it intentionally but they still play with the same carbord cut characters ... some improvements are visible like the Necros with a top tier unit being female but still is considered a supernatural being before female (for me at list) so yea some twist would be fun not saying the should change everything but since H2 Cyclops have bean male, true they have taken different roles mele top tier to shooter but that's it.
All this raving is in regard to units because for heroes has allays been more diversity and more openness to having both sex representatives that are not type casted.
EDIT
Sorry had to change some words do to censoring but I hope you get the meaning
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tsar-ivor
Promising
Legendary Hero
Scourge of God
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posted May 21, 2011 02:59 PM |
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As i said kenishi i feel that this deserves a thread of its own, since the last one was a farce i decided to make one.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2011 03:28 PM |
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It's not an issue of no female units but of female units of traditional brutish races that I do not agree with. I mean a troll, orc, goblin, ogre etc warrior is better off male. Now if we're talking shaman, shooter or a non-brutish amazon - that's another tale.
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vitorsly
Known Hero
Joker!
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posted May 21, 2011 03:42 PM |
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ogres/trolls/cyclops will NEVER be represented by a female in my book.
orcs... maybe...
goblins HECK YEAH! goblins are weak like (some) women and they use more ranged weapons because of their fear of close combat fighting. look at clash of heroes and you will find that the main heroes for inferno and heaven (might factions) are guys while Sylven, Necro and Academy (magic and range based) are girls. This rule of ranged fighters being girls and melle fighter being guys is present in a lot of games (some more disguised than the others)
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 04:10 PM |
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Someone just made me notice ... Have you seen that MMH6 has become PEGI 16 ?
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted May 21, 2011 04:15 PM |
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Yes - Bruce Willis will be voicing Michael and couldn't stop ad-libbing his Die Hard catchphrases into the script. Sad stuff.
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Nocturnal
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 04:43 PM |
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Quote: ogres/trolls/cyclops will NEVER be represented by a female in my book.
orcs... maybe...
goblins HECK YEAH! goblins are weak like (some) women and they use more ranged weapons because of their fear of close combat fighting.
Why is that a reason for them to be a female in your book? There are also weak males. By the same thought Cyclops could also be represented as female as they are strong like (some) women?
Anyway, you'll deny that the above statement of yours is sexist but it is actually very abviously sexist, so I won't argue.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted May 21, 2011 04:45 PM |
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"Do you really think you stand a chance against us Archangel?"
"Yippie ki-yay mother****er!"
Yeah... that does sound a lot like an evil scheming Archangel now that you mention it...
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted May 21, 2011 04:46 PM |
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Quote: ogres/trolls/cyclops will NEVER be represented by a female
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Nocturnal
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 04:48 PM |
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Quote: It's not an issue of no female units but of female units of traditional brutish races that I do not agree with..
Elvin, I'm surprised really. So I believe you also don't like the Female Barbarian model in Diablo 3?
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 05:09 PM |
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Quote: Elvin, I'm surprised really. So I believe you also don't like the Female Barbarian model in Diablo 3?
No, she looks like my mother-in-law
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 05:25 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 17:35, 21 May 2011.
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yeah, H2 troll looks female to me too. but it's true that it is a weak shooter. ok, maybe not weak...
btw, after seeing some of the new animations, I was wondering about the balance. before, out of 7 creatures, most castles had 2 ranged attackers and 2 flying units.
now, I can see :
haven :
1 ranged attacker (crossbowman)
4 flying units (griffin, sun crusader, glory, angel)
inferno :
1 flying unit (succubus)
0 to 3 ranged attackers (succubus, breeder, pit lord)
sanctuary :
2 flying unit (kappa when leaping, kirin)
1 ranged attacker (snow maiden)
stronghold :
1 flying unit (harpy)
2 ranged attackers (goblin, centaur)
necropolis :
3 flying units (ghost, lamasu, vampire)
4 ranged attackers (skeleton, ghost, lich, fate weaver)
necropolis always had many flying units, but it looks like for the 1st time, they may dominate in the ranged department, may it be too much of an advantage?
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 05:43 PM |
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Quote: ogres be represented by a female in my book.
Come on, isnt this sexy
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 06:32 PM |
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Quote: haven :
1 ranged attacker (crossbowman)
4 flying units (griffin, sun crusader, glory, angel)
Glory isn't a flyer as far as I know.
Quote: inferno :
1 flying unit (succubus)
0 to 3 ranged attackers (succubus, breeder, pit lord)
Pit Lord is melee and I don't know where you read that the Succubi is a flyer
Quote: stronghold :
1 flying unit (harpy)
2 ranged attackers (goblin, centaur)
Cyclops can be ranged as well, and goblins can fly (when thrown by a cyclops, but not sure they survive the flight )
Quote: necropolis :
3 flying units (ghost, lamasu, vampire)
4 ranged attackers (skeleton, ghost, lich, fate weaver)
Vampire are not flyers. Ghosts aren't shooters.
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Davy
Known Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 06:41 PM |
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Quote: yeah, H2 troll looks female to me too. but it's true that it is a weak shooter. ok, maybe not weak...
btw, after seeing some of the new animations, I was wondering about the balance. before, out of 7 creatures, most castles had 2 ranged attackers and 2 flying units.
now, I can see :
haven :
1 ranged attacker (crossbowman)
4 flying units (griffin, sun crusader, glory, angel)
inferno :
1 flying unit (succubus)
0 to 3 ranged attackers (succubus, breeder, pit lord)
sanctuary :
2 flying unit (kappa when leaping, kirin)
1 ranged attacker (snow maiden)
stronghold :
1 flying unit (harpy)
2 ranged attackers (goblin, centaur)
necropolis :
3 flying units (ghost, lamasu, vampire)
4 ranged attackers (skeleton, ghost, lich, fate weaver)
necropolis always had many flying units, but it looks like for the 1st time, they may dominate in the ranged department, may it be too much of an advantage?
I think the glory is also a ranged unit and the ghosts are melee units,but still it lookys like the necropolis will really have the advantage when it comes to shooters,maybe to help them with their low defenses.
I also think,that the tormentor could be a ranged unit,because they shoot spikes.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2011 07:06 PM |
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You may have a few things wrong.
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