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mike80d
mike80d


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Map Maker
posted May 20, 2011 05:47 PM

I doubt the "For Whom the Bell Tolls" ability will remove the entire stack.  If so then that's pretty ridiculous and takes away from the spirit of the game too.

My personal favorite is the Tide Master's:  "Neutral Ability: Tsunami
All enemies are "Soaked" for several turns. All one square-sized enemies are pushed back 2 squares and "Stunned" for several turns."

That just sounds like such a fun strategic advantage!

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted May 20, 2011 07:27 PM

Probably the number of turns you have to wait to activate the ability depends on the number and level of the stack...
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


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Nuttier than squirrel poo
posted May 20, 2011 08:01 PM
Edited by The_Polyglot at 20:04, 20 May 2011.

I sincerely hope "watery grave" gets altered, for it is the ONLY advanced ability which doesn't affect any and all creatures equally. What if the opponent is Necro? Then Flood Conjurers would be significantly hampered.(H3 Fortress had a similar problem IMHO: their strength was the multitude of useful abilities... of which only a precious few affected Undeads )
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted May 20, 2011 08:19 PM

It's not the only one, pyromancer would probably have trouble vs demons as well. Resistant to fire.
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MrDragon
MrDragon


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Eats people with Ketchup
posted May 20, 2011 08:21 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 20:22, 20 May 2011.

And weren't Orcs supposed to be resistant to magic in general?
Or did that idea totaly come out of nowhere?

I guess this promotes "counter" behaviour and scouting.
Knowing what your enemy plays and how he plays it and making sure your strategy is up to the task.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted May 20, 2011 08:45 PM

Since each path has different spells it is harder to tell how effective it will be regardless of the unique spells. Spell more likely, getting the ultimate is probably not going to happen in a casual map.
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


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posted May 20, 2011 09:06 PM

@Elvin:
Do Demons resist fire completely? If not, I still think it isn't fair.

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MrDragon
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posted May 20, 2011 10:15 PM

Quote:
@Elvin:
Do Demons resist fire completely? If not, I still think it isn't fair.


Resist =/= Immune to.

Considering Undead get away with being immune to tons of effects, I'd say it's fair to give other factions some more broader specific defenses.

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yasmiel
yasmiel


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Former Chessmaster
posted May 20, 2011 11:39 PM

Indeed. Necropolis army tends to be immune to huge variety of spells, so fire resistance for Inferno troops seems reasonable.

If there are any other resistances to schools, I'm certain they are in spirit of the creature/armies and make sense as well. No worries on that part.
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synth
synth


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That's a lady?
posted May 21, 2011 12:15 AM

Who's up for starting a new general discussion thread? After this many hundreds of pages it's getting a bit silly in here. Plus it's not really a thread that anyone looking for info would trawl through, it's more of a real time commentary on what's going on with the game.

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SoilBurn
SoilBurn


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BurnsSoil
posted May 21, 2011 12:27 AM

Quote:
Whilst I mostly agree I feel that some of the creatures are merely female for the sake of being female.
To me the two creatures that do this are the Glory and the Spring Spirit, neither of which needs to be female at all, in fact, they could have been far more creative with these two creatures then just making them naked women composed of magical light or water.
All other females I don't have a problem with. (well not with them being female anyway)

Portraying the divine nature of benevolent spirits via the form of a young woman is neither new nor exclusive to this fantasy setting. The fact that Glory / Spring Spirit seem somewhat out of place is - in my honest opinion - only due to the fact that this is being done for the first time in HOMM (to this extent) and fans are not used to it.

Otherwise, I think it is perfectly ok to have a balance between female and male looking creatures (e.g. why are most of the demons distinctly male? I would have preferred another female model there besides the overdone Succubus)

In a similar fashion, showing the Kappa as a bearded grandpa-toad-turtle-thingy is equally arbitrary and I don't hear anybody complaining.

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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


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posted May 21, 2011 01:37 AM

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(e.g. why are most of the demons distinctly male? I would have preferred another female model there besides the overdone Succubus)



well YMMV on the Mother Breeder

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted May 21, 2011 01:40 AM

The Juggernaut would be awesome as a female.
Totally awesome.

(And I'm still sad that they didn't make the Cyclop as a female. )

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted May 21, 2011 10:10 AM

Just wanted to echo my opinion that I think Mother Breeder sounds dumb and that the developers should've spent more time coming up with better names for their new and original creatures.

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Kenishi
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posted May 21, 2011 10:31 AM

Quote:
The Juggernaut would be awesome as a female.
Totally awesome.

(And I'm still sad that they didn't make the Cyclop as a female. )




I share your sadness ...

http://www.markeedragon.com/screenshots/wish-concept-art/p1654-cyclops-female-wish-concept-art.html
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted May 21, 2011 10:47 AM

I'd hit that.

You guys are serious?
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Jabanoss
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posted May 21, 2011 10:54 AM
Edited by Jabanoss at 10:56, 21 May 2011.

Uhm Yeah.
But It should be similar to the current Cyclop, no need for a one-eyed super model here.

However I'm not butt-hurt about no female Cyclop if that's what you think...
I'm just saying it would be a cool change.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


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posted May 21, 2011 11:31 AM

Quote:
Uhm Yeah.
But It should be similar to the current Cyclop, no need for a one-eyed super model here.

However I'm not butt-hurt about no female Cyclop if that's what you think...
I'm just saying it would be a cool change.



The above plus would be fun to give some twists to overused creatures in fantasy seatings, I mean in H6 some female units ware put in as fashion models (not saying is good or bad) but also made some twist like female centaurs ... what can I say would have love to see twisted some more units that way ...
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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted May 21, 2011 11:43 AM

Female centaurs ain't nothing new to fantasy.
*adds links to a bunch of pics*

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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Kreegan-atheist
posted May 21, 2011 12:00 PM

Let's be even more original - male Mother Namtaru!

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