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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 (383) 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Valen-Teen
Valen-Teen


Famous Hero
UFOlolOgist
posted May 31, 2011 12:23 PM

Heroes II rules!
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 31, 2011 12:30 PM
Edited by Nocturnal at 12:30, 31 May 2011.

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Not saying I'm not happy with it.
I just wish they hadn't devoted an entire week to rearrangements.


How do you know they devoted the "entire" week? We are just in the second day of the week But yes, I hope the old ones don't dominate the game's musics. And so far, Sanctuary theme is my favourite. And its a new one
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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 31, 2011 12:32 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 12:38, 31 May 2011.

In all respect to the music, which is beutifull, I must express my displeasure. Is all the music in Heroes VI going to by a remade copy of something that we have already seen in prewies games? First the compounded Campaign Theme from Heroes III and now this.

Whit all respects to mister Romero and King, this is the lamest thing I have seen so far.

For one I think that In these days An original piece of music is not a plus, but a must.
Another point is that I disliked 3D0's reusing of music in several games (like COMAM) and I am not going to approve it now when it is under Ubiss control.
And for last, this music fits well into Heroes II whit it's hand drawn and fairytale graphics, but not to the art style of Heroes VI.

If they wanted to honer Heroes II at the ocassion of the 25 B-day of MaM, they should have done something more creative and fitting.
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Hungarest
Hungarest


Known Hero
What? Why? I'm undefeatable
posted May 31, 2011 12:37 PM

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In all respect to the music, which is beutifull, I must express my displeasure. Is all the music in Heroes VI going to by a remade copy of something that we have already seen in prewies games? First the compounded Campaign Theme from Heroes III and now this.

Whit all respects to mister Romero and Kin, this is the lamest thing I have seen so far.

For one I think that In these days An original piece of music is not a plus, but a must.
Another point is that I disliked 3D0's reusing of music in several games (like COMAM) and I am not going to approve it now when it is under Ubiss control.
And for last, this music fits well into Heroes II whit it's hand drawn and fairytale graphics, but not to the art style of Heroes VI.

If they wanted to honer Heroes II at the ocassion of the 25 B-day of MaM, they should have done something more creative and fitting.


Totally agree with you!!!

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted May 31, 2011 12:39 PM

First of all, Rob and Paul were asked to do those remixes. Secondly H6 has plenty of original music.
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Avirosb
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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted May 31, 2011 12:53 PM

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How do you know they devoted the "entire" week? We are just in the second day of the week


Quote:
This week we’ll hear some tracks from Heroes VI that are remixes of iconic themes from the Might & Magic and Heroes series.

Every day of the week you could(?) discover and download a new theme and enjoy it.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 31, 2011 12:57 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 13:14, 31 May 2011.

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First of all, Rob and Paul were asked to do those remixes. Secondly H6 has plenty of original music.


I understand that these ideas were not from there heads, both of them are to creative to do such a thing, it seams more sad to me for them.

But this doesn't change any points of my concern!

The grass theme is one of the most common (together with the battle and town themes) using a remixed version of an prewius theme is a very bad decision.
I Can not approve reusing music, it is just not in my nature. And this particular one just doesn't even fit in the game setting

Can you imagine how Irritating this music will become for some people? I Still play Heroes II, more often than any other Heroes. And the thought that I hear the same music when I switch games is frightening.

Also from all the Iconic things in Heroes II why this theme? Could they just use the Golden Goose? Or If it has to be music why not the Winter theme?

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And also, If they have wast amounghts of original music why post two remakes two days in a row? That is one bad marketing! If they posted one old and one new, it wouldn't stand out so much
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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted May 31, 2011 12:58 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 12:59, 31 May 2011.

Nuts to that.  I want the Heroes 2 title and Necromancer themes.
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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Legendary Hero
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posted May 31, 2011 12:59 PM

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And for last, this music fits well into Heroes II whit it's hand drawn and fairytale graphics, but not to the art style of Heroes VI.
Umm... The Heroes II graphics is less fairy-tale than the Heroes VI one.
And yes, Paul and Rob are doing what they are told to do, it's not like they can't invent new music. We've seen (heard) a lot of different themes between Heroes I and Heroes V.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted May 31, 2011 01:02 PM

I am stumped, Golden Guess doesn't ring any bells. Link please? I see your concern but frankly I don't see why it is so unfitting for H6. I rather like it.. Not quite the same feel either.
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
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Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds
posted May 31, 2011 01:06 PM

While it will be great to hear today's track over and over again in H6(Did I mention yet that I totally love the idea of a few remixes?<3), I've played much too much H2 to be able to associate it with H6. Also, I think the original is just a wee bit better, but as I already mentioned, I'm kind of biased. At least I will once again be able to identify the terrain just by listening to its assigned music .
Now, if only they could "remix"(/rethink the approach to) another iconic part...*wink wink, nudge nudge*
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


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posted May 31, 2011 01:08 PM

Quote:
Quote:
How do you know they devoted the "entire" week? We are just in the second day of the week


Quote:
This week we’ll hear some tracks from Heroes VI that are remixes of iconic themes from the Might & Magic and Heroes series.

Every day of the week you could(?) discover and download a new theme and enjoy it.



Oh, sorry. I missed that
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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 31, 2011 01:09 PM

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I am stumped, Golden Guess doesn't ring any bells. Link please? I see your concern but frankly I don't see why it is so unfitting for H6. I rather like it.. Not quite the same feel either.

Golden Goose: brings in an income of 10,000 gold per turn

She was one of the Ultimate artifacts, and was present only in Heroes II. I don't mean that something should have the same effect, but she could be present as a form of a better Sack of gold.


@Zenofex
Sorry but I have to disagree at this point. Heroes VI is a fantastic setting but very distant from heroes I-II fairytale setting.


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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted May 31, 2011 01:09 PM

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Also from all the Iconic things in Heroes II why this theme? Could they just use the Golden Guess Goose?


Who says they won't?
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds
posted May 31, 2011 01:14 PM
Edited by The_Polyglot at 13:22, 31 May 2011.

@Dave_Jame:

Taken directly from the official site:

"This week we will hear some tracks from Heroes VI that are remixes of iconic themes from the Might & Magic and Heroes series."

I think they're holding on to the new themes so they can remain a surprise(And remember, we already got some of those, via Romero).

EDIT:
Quote:
Who says they won't?


Yay! I approve of the idea of celebrating in this fashion!
Just remember that there ought to be a balance between old stuff and new stuff.
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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 31, 2011 01:20 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 13:24, 31 May 2011.

Quote:
@Dave_Jame:

Taken directly from the official site:

"This week we will hear some tracks from Heroes VI that are remixes of iconic themes from the Might & Magic and Heroes series."

I think they're holding on to the new themes so they can remain a surprise(And remember, we already got some of those, via Romero).



OK missed that one.. My bad... sorry...

But the rest of my opinions are still meant serious.


@Cepheus
Well "I" have not seen her yet... Or are "You" trying to point outsomething ?
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mancubus
mancubus


Adventuring Hero
posted May 31, 2011 03:43 PM

Seems like they totally nailed it with music

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Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted May 31, 2011 04:50 PM
Edited by Crayfish at 16:53, 31 May 2011.

Stronghold animations are nice. All the flying units so far (griffin, kirin, harpy) have virtually the same lucky attack but it does look cool.

Jaguar warrior looks really good. Only on the final two slashes it seems he's leaning back and slashing too high. I think he'd strike over the head of a small unit and he looks slightly off balance too. Minor complaint though, I'm happy with these animations overall.

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Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted May 31, 2011 05:36 PM
Edited by Crayfish at 17:37, 31 May 2011.

Sorry for double post. I just heard the H2 grasslands music remix. It sounds amazing. Normally I'd prefer original music too, but the new music is noticeably recorded/encoded much better than the H2 track. I enjoyed this one. I will look forward to hearing some brand new music as well (obv. not this week but soon).

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MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted May 31, 2011 06:47 PM

Stronghold animations were good, liked all of them.

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