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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 (385) 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
foxxxer
foxxxer


Famous Hero
posted June 01, 2011 10:59 AM
Edited by foxxxer at 11:00, 01 Jun 2011.

Oh, we have a spell "Sunburst". It looks spectacular though the low damage. Also it seems like some cold spell had been casted around the dead Lamasu or the tarrain deceives? Again Air Elementals

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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Kreegan-atheist
posted June 01, 2011 11:10 AM

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And that is to me still an overgeneralization, far from factual.
In this case everything is an overgeneralization, including things like gravity, photosynthesis and so on. You are right though, we won't agree so no point in taking this further.
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, Light and Water Elementals if they exist.
Check the pictures of the Blazing Glory and the Spring Spirit, imagine their appearances slightly changed and you have the said two elementals. I think there are pictures in the artwork thread as well.

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admira
admira


Promising
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posted June 01, 2011 11:24 AM

although this thing is minor, but glad to see that Irina is not wearing Helmet, let's hope the 3D render is as good as the artwork where she leading the army of Nagas.

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted June 01, 2011 11:26 AM

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Oh, we have a spell "Sunburst". It looks spectacular though the low damage. Also it seems like some cold spell had been casted around the dead Lamasu or the tarrain deceives? Again Air Elementals


And you missed the air elemental

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foxxxer
foxxxer


Famous Hero
posted June 01, 2011 11:35 AM

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Oh, we have a spell "Sunburst". It looks spectacular though the low damage. Also it seems like some cold spell had been casted around the dead Lamasu or the tarrain deceives? Again Air Elementals


And you missed the air elemental

Are you sure? Check the post again  

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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posted June 01, 2011 11:47 AM

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Oh, we have a spell "Sunburst". It looks spectacular though the low damage. Also it seems like some cold spell had been casted around the dead Lamasu or the tarrain deceives? Again Air Elementals


And you missed the air elemental

Are you sure? Check the post again  

How did you edit my post ?

Btw, why "again" ? It's the first time we see a close-up of them

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Negativland
Negativland


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but I'm not
posted June 01, 2011 11:49 AM

Wondering, are the Air Elementals summonable? I'm thinking it's a pretty good unit for sanctuary, since they have that soaking feature. Soaking + Air elemental (I assume they deal air damage) = ouch

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foxxxer
foxxxer


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posted June 01, 2011 12:09 PM

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Btw, why "again" ? It's the first time we see a close-up of them

In May 12 it's a little bit smaller but clearly seeable. That's why I wrote "again". The Air Elementals icon in the bar looks cool and like Negativland said what is this sign next to the icon. Also the arrows up to Vampires and Medusas, pardon Coral Priestess icons.

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Elvin
Elvin

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Stillness within Movement
posted June 01, 2011 12:39 PM

Of course the sea theme has an Eastern touch, Jade ocean

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Wondering, are the Air Elementals summonable? I'm thinking it's a pretty good unit for sanctuary, since they have that soaking feature. Soaking + Air elemental (I assume they deal air damage) = ouch

I like your thinking Had not crossed my mind.

PS the resources that go to music, marketing or merchandise are not likely to be pooled into the game. Some people seem to think that skipping on some would even bring the game's release sooner but this is not true.
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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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posted June 01, 2011 12:46 PM

What's the knight statue next to the rocks on the battlefield ?

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted June 01, 2011 12:55 PM

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What's the knight statue next to the rocks on the battlefield ?


A a decoration
B something inspired by KB... (hope not)
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Mike80D
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Map Maker
posted June 01, 2011 01:53 PM

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What's the knight statue next to the rocks on the battlefield ?


A a decoration
B something inspired by KB... (hope not)


I bet its going to be similar to KB.  That's the first thing I thought of when I saw it.  And I'm pretty sure the developers already stated that the battlefields in H6 will be more dynamic than past battle maps.


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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted June 01, 2011 02:00 PM

Dynamic? How so?
Bee hives and treasure chest lying in the open on the battlefield and stuff? Black Dragons swooping down at the last second?

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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted June 01, 2011 02:19 PM

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Dynamic? How so?
Bee hives and treasure chest lying in the open on the battlefield and stuff? Black Dragons swooping down at the last second?


well in KB they are known as "Idol" there are 2 kind statues (CMIIW), the first one give buffs, some even resurrect specific random unit either ally or opponent. Some cursing random creatures of both sides. The Idols can be destroyed and has a specific HP (although the "Fortification" system in H6 comes to mind). Well there are also random treasure chest that can be opened by creature by sacrificing their current turn if the chest in their movement reach.

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Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted June 01, 2011 02:31 PM
Edited by Crayfish at 14:34, 01 Jun 2011.

I liked most things about the King's Bounty combat system. Not saying H6 should replicate it exactly, but if it takes some inspiration there I'm cool with that. Battlefield objects and more activated creature abilities would both be good to see. Hopefully not random treasure on the battlefield though.

I wonder if battlefield sizes are variable? I haven't counted up the squares but this battlefield looks a tad larger than I expected.

I love the Sunburst spell. At first I thought it would be a whole battlefield effect but looking closer it seems like it will only hit creatures under the centre or standing in one of the rays. Also seems quite powerful despite the stated intention to nerf direct damage spells. Wonder if the spell only affects undead or if necro will take extra damage from all light magic?

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KingImp
KingImp


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posted June 01, 2011 03:08 PM

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Oh, we have a spell "Sunburst".


And it "only" took them until 3 months away from release to show us the first spell.  

So, I guess Sunburst is basically the new Word of Light spell.

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Negativland
Negativland


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but I'm not
posted June 01, 2011 03:19 PM
Edited by Negativland at 15:32, 01 Jun 2011.

I guess so. Word of Light still exists though, but just as the inquisitor's ultimate (and it has the "gain health" twist to it). Maybe it's like Crayfish suggested, some sort of area spell that hits in certain directions (stone spikes style)?

[edit] taking a closer look, the kappa seems to be in the way too but he's doesn't have a problem. Is light damage something that only affects necro / maybe inferno units?

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Mike80D
Mike80D


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posted June 01, 2011 03:44 PM

I kind of liked the random objects on a map in KB.  Don't forget about the exploding barrel (similar to the homm5 arcane crystal), bee hive that would attack the closest creature, buffing/cursing statues, etc.  I agree that treasure chests on the battlefield should be removed from Heroes 6 though.  

Unfortunately I don't think there will be many creature activated abilities in Heroes 6.  It was something that added a lot of dynamic interest in Kings Bounty battles.  I also liked how a creature using an ability didn't use up its whole turn.  Ranged creatures also didn't lose the ability to shoot if they moved 1 tile.  

Sunburts looks pretty neat.  The medusa type creature doesn't look good IMO, but I do like the air elemental.  I think they said that all elementals are available only through summoning.. hopefully that is not the case.  

Something that could be neat is that there could be a very small % that each summon elemental will randomly summon a more powerful version.  I.e., 3% of all summon air elemental casts will summon both the air elementals AND a primordial elemental (something of Champion quality).

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Mike80D
Mike80D


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posted June 01, 2011 04:26 PM

Beta on June 28th will enable you to play 3 maps (2 single player and 1 multiplayer).  In other words, Beta will let you play 30% of the maps lol.  

Elvin/other Insiders: Do you know if the maps that come with the game will have restrictions (i.e. only single player, set factions for each color, etc.) ??  I hope instead that the maps are free of restrictions and all of them can be played on multiplayer as any faction.

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Davy
Davy


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posted June 01, 2011 05:01 PM

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I guess so. Word of Light still exists though, but just as the inquisitor's ultimate (and it has the "gain health" twist to it). Maybe it's like Crayfish suggested, some sort of area spell that hits in certain directions (stone spikes style)?

[edit] taking a closer look, the kappa seems to be in the way too but he's doesn't have a problem. Is light damage something that only affects necro / maybe inferno units?


Maybe it damages only enemies and no allies?

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