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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 08, 2011 04:44 PM

Ughh I come too late as well. But Adrius said it is a bless. Is the leak really that bad?

Anyway back to topic. The picture with Kiril and some kind of Succubus with fiery Angel wing. Do you think she (The succubus) is actually the angel we saw from the official trailer that hold the blue flame. well her wing was burning in the trailer.

But oh well, just a wild guess.

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xerox
xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted January 08, 2011 07:04 PM

two of the new creatures look way to similar (just as the tormentor and and the other core demon does in the artworks) and one of the creatures associated with a fish should be renamed to a famous, sometimes "demonic", creature from japanese mythology as they look similar

I hope I did not say too much here
found the pictures in 5 minutes
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Sleeping_Sun
Sleeping_Sun


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Townscreen Architect
posted January 08, 2011 09:10 PM
Edited by Sleeping_Sun at 21:11, 08 Jan 2011.

We can discuss this:
H6 Map
Thallan is a new region, but for which faction? New? or already familiar?
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Lokheit
Lokheit


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posted January 08, 2011 09:12 PM
Edited by Lokheit at 21:23, 08 Jan 2011.

To the ones sad about don't worry about not being able to see the leaks, you better wait for them:

Don't worry, I couldn't resist the curiosity and found some of them.

They seem to be unfisnished art work taken before they were finished. I can say that because one of them lack the color for one of the complements she wear in the infamoues new year tree leak, so people who saw that saw the same than the Cyclops video if you only see half of the video. Somebody managed to take the file from the artist before he finished it.

So I don't recomend you to see them at this point because it's better to see them finished, you take double satisfation: you know the new unit + you know how it actually looks when finished and in good resolution

Edit: Was I banned for 30 seconds for saying that or the site went down in a weird manner? It appeared a weird message when I was editing the post for ortography that I hadn't seen before saying something about not having permissions :S The intention of the post was to clarify that it doesn't worth searching for it, not to indicate where to find it :S

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Naze
Naze


Known Hero
posted January 08, 2011 09:25 PM

Quote:
We can discuss this:
H6 Map
Thallan is a new region, but for which faction? New? or already familiar?


Since the font is bigger than the fonts of the lands (Ranaar, Holy Empire, Silver Cities, etc.) it might indicate the name of the continent.
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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted January 08, 2011 09:53 PM

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I just wonderd where do the individuel Dutchees are placed in the Empire

There are 6 of them
Deer
Wolf
Gryf
Bull
Unicorn
Gryhound

So where are they:

Deer - Up north by Grimhaim
Wolf - ? Next to gryf?
Gryf - Easte teritory
Bull - South by Heresh
Unicorn - ? Next to Irollan?
Gryhound - ? I don't have a Clue?




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vitorsly
vitorsly


Known Hero
Joker!
posted January 09, 2011 12:24 AM

Finaly I saw them! They were mostly awsome except maybe for 1 core creature.
I think that the angel Sarah is that one from the trailer (while seing info about an inferno creature there is an angel/succubus with wings on fire near him)

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Lichking012
Lichking012


Known Hero
posted January 09, 2011 12:38 AM

Honestly I think that we should be allowed to discuss the new units, it takes all of 2 seconds to google the pictures and we are hardly stopping anyone from looking by not posting them here.

To be vague, but still comment, I'm pretty disappointed with the faction, some of these unites flat out make ZERO and I mean ZERO sense, (looking at you middle core unit), others look like flat out copies of each other and all ready released unites, (looking at you first elite units, 3rd elite unit(I don't even understand how this unit fits inthematically), and a haven creature), and Others would look far far better if replaced by very similar already existing M&M creatures ( looking at you 3rd Core unit). The first core unit, the middle elite unit, and the champion unit all look pretty cool.

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Minotaur_Man
Minotaur_Man


Hired Hero
posted January 09, 2011 01:51 AM
Edited by Minotaur_Man at 01:55, 09 Jan 2011.

Quote:
Honestly I think that we should be allowed to discuss the new units, it takes all of 2 seconds to google the pictures and we are hardly stopping anyone from looking by not posting them here.


I have tried looking for these images but I haven't found any. Could you tell me what you need to look up to find the images. PM me if you would prefer.

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e-lysander
e-lysander


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Lysander
posted January 09, 2011 02:11 AM
Edited by e-lysander at 02:13, 09 Jan 2011.

*Ahem*


So, I've found the images.

Asian-style.
Shark men.
Medusas.

One of the units (but not her upgrade) is very similar to a unit that's already known.

The faction is less Naga-centered, but more like sea-based.


Take from this information as you will.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted January 09, 2011 02:12 AM

The images have been posted on celestial heavens so I suppose there is no point in forbidding them anymore. I unfortunately cannot offer much info on them but consider that the lineup has been designed with very specific reasons in mind, both in lore and gameplay. Some things may look out of place but they are actually reasonable. Unfortunately the lineup has more humanoids than I'd like but at least it should have interesting gameplay.
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Adrius
Adrius


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Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted January 09, 2011 02:33 AM
Edited by Adrius at 02:55, 09 Jan 2011.

Alright then, guess I can comment on it.

Overall I'm fairly disappointed, though this is still just artwork so it should all be taken with a grain of salt.

Kappas look pretty awesome, they pulled that one off well.

Shark Warriors are outstanding, very nice idea there.

Coral Maidens... meh. Looks like standard race spellcaster.

Spring Spirits... standard race spiritual creature. Like the ghosts or radiant glories...

Wave Warriors look badass, though I would've preferred a more human face in line with the coral maiden's.

Snow Maiden is meh, looks like the Spring Spirit's cousin.

The Kirin is the lamest. I've had enough of the damn top tier lizards. I'd rather see (quoting a HCM I sent to Elvin) "A huge ancient spellcasting überbrained magical Kraken unit!

Spellcasting squid! That'd be awesome."

Yeah. That's what I'd add.
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e-lysander
e-lysander


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Lysander
posted January 09, 2011 02:42 AM
Edited by e-lysander at 02:43, 09 Jan 2011.

Quote:
Yeah, but artwork and in-game appearance can differ a lot. Animation can really bring a whole other feeling to a creature.


I stand corrected. You make a good point here. I was noticing this yesterday when looking at the official Heroes VI website's 3D models. The Juggernaut totally has a different sort of feel than I originally thought.

I'm surprised at everyone's reaction at the Kappa... my first thought was, "wait, what?"

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whiterider
whiterider


Known Hero
death walks with me
posted January 09, 2011 02:44 AM

I think the Kirin is the best looking creature in the game so far I love them. And one unit is missing, there are only 6 here

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Adrius
Adrius


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Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted January 09, 2011 02:46 AM
Edited by Adrius at 02:48, 09 Jan 2011.

@Lysander: Yeah haha, not sure if a Kappa was the first thing I'd consider adding to a Naga faction, but as far as Kappas go that one is pretty awesome

I'm suspecting that it has some sort of limited range ability, like it can only fire over a certain distance or something.
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Alustor
Alustor


Famous Hero
ooo da :)
posted January 09, 2011 02:48 AM

that spirit looks 70%like the radiant glory + there is another female also elite in the line up.it should clearly be changed/removed.except this i kind of like the concept arts

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Minotaur_Man
Minotaur_Man


Hired Hero
posted January 09, 2011 02:48 AM

I actually like these units, though spring/river spirits looks too similar to the radiant glory

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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted January 09, 2011 02:59 AM
Edited by SwampLord at 03:01, 09 Jan 2011.

Huh....

The units are all individually very good, but overall, it's a bit disappointing. Little too humanoid overall for a non-human faction. I do LOVE the T7 tough.
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xerox
xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted January 09, 2011 03:01 AM

So any idea which is core and which is elite? Kirin is obviously champion though.

My feedback:

Kappa: Lol, poor Nightterror. Anyway, looks OKAY on the artwork but nothing special. I CAN'T wait to see this one in-game though! Kappa Shoya? I googled Shoya and found nothing. Would be awesome if the upgrade was named Kaiju! xD Or atleast Kappa Kaiju.

Sharkmen: Lol, didn't someone make a suggestion like this on HC and Elvin said something? Hints. Anyway, I do not think it looks like a shark on the artwork and the head is too small for that. Personally, I think they should go and rename this into an Oni.
Oni -> Kanabo/Oni Kanabo (yes, I know Kanabo is their club )

Coral Maiden: I think this looks like a boring creature with a boring design. The design looks very generic compared to the other creatures. They should have gone with the Geisha look as seen in older concept arts. This one looks to human and just too "normal" and too "western" compared to the other creatures.

Spring Spirit: I do not like this one as it is too similar to the Ice Maiden. They should make one of them neutral. For my Naga towns, I also had an idea for a water spirit or nymph based on the Indian Apsara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apsara).
It looks very similar so I think they should give it a more creative name and name it Apsara -> Daivika ("Divine" Apsara).

Wave Warrior: Boring name, I had hoped that they would go for some more Japanse warrior caste name. Even Samurai would have been cool. These still look REALLY COOL though and I like them far better than the Coral Maiden!

Snow Maiden: Is this based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki-onna ? They look very similar. I think this creature (again) looks too similar to the Spring Spirit and I just think the creature looks kind of out of place in a tropical, junglish, aquatic town since its like an ice creature. It would make a perfect snow tile-set neutral! I do like the design better than that of the Spring Spirit though. Hmm...

Kirin: I think the Kirin looks amazing!!! Its my favorite champion! I love the like coral antlers and that they didnt go with some stupid Sea Wyrm but were true to the Asian theme! I can't wait to see it in-game with all animations etc!



So basically, I think they should rethink the whole design of the Coral Maiden (not to mention that there is already another Maiden creature) and make either the Ice Maiden a neutral on the Snow tile-set or make the Spring Spirit the neutral Water elemental. Those two just look too similar.
I really like the rest of the faction though and the Kappa is very creative and cool! I hope its a ranged attacker that attacks with its tongue.
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Lichking012
Lichking012


Known Hero
posted January 09, 2011 03:03 AM

I'll take that as a yes.

Core

I like the Kappa, it looks interesting. It's aquatic and nautical, while still being reasonable and cool.

"Shark Warrior" - This unit looks absolutely ridiculous. Its a shark with feet and a giant club. I mean seriously its like they just took a stereotypical melee unit and shoved some fish features on it to make it magically fit a "water" theme. Assuming that the Naga have jungle terrain this is even MORE ridiculous. I can see the kappa in this sort of environment a "shark warrior" on the other hand? I don't think so. Plus I really dislike how they just added "warrior" and "captain" to shark to name the creature.

"coral maiden" - This one is pretty cool, HOWEVER, they should just call it a medusa. It has SNAKES on its head for snows sake.

Elite

"Spring Spirit" - So i take it this confirms no elementals outside of towns? This is basically a water elemental, and quite frankly it looks like a slightly modified radiant glory. It looks like they to the radiant glory and added some water effects, and then added a crown to its upgrade.

"Wave Warrior" - This one looks pretty cool. I looks like the stadard
"naga" unit everyone expected. I don't quite love the name though.

"Snow maiden" - I actually like the art for this unit decently, but i have issues with it for SEVERAL reasons based on a thematic standpoint. First of all, why is there an ICE unit in a Jungle/water faction? Second, I think it also looks too similar to the Spring Spirit which looks WAY to similar to the radiant glory. It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't the same tier of the sane town, but they are and they are both female blue ethereal spirit being things. I think getting rid of any of the "icy" features in the unit and making THAT the spring spirit would make A LOT more sense. Also, why are there 2 creatures that have the name maiden?

"Kirin" - Kirin, on the one hand, this unit looks a lot like a dragon.
On the other hand, knowing what it is, I know it's not a dragon, it fits the general idea of the nagas. peaceful and non-confrontational but aggressive when provoked. Plus it is the ONLY champion unit that is even close to Dragon-like. I mean seriously other than this we have, Angels, Pit Lords, Cyclopses and Spider women. I think it's ok for the serpent faction to have a reptilian champion unit. Plus i REALLY dig the color scheme, and judging from th mythology, this unit is definitely the "flyer" that rumors were talking about.

CHANGES

Overall I don't hate this line-up, but what I and SOSOSOSOSOSOSOSOSOSO much of the fan-base wanted was a spiritual return of H3 fortress through the naga faction. I don't see it, instead we got a sharks with feet (are you kidding me?), a Medusa that's being called something else for no reason (seriously she even has SNAKES in her hair, although once again I DO like the unit itself). A copy of a mediocre haven unit and a copy of the copy of the mediocre haven unit that doesn't make much sense thematically (where is ice in the jungle?). I would really like to see a return of some H3 fortress unit, I would replace the shark with lizard men, they would be a melee unit, make some sense lore-wise and make millions of fans world over happy,rename the coral maidens medusas because that's basically what they are, "de-ice" the snow maidens and have that model replace the spring spirit model, and add one more creature of heroes 3 fortress, Personally I would LOVE to see the mighty gorgon make a return, but I could see how that wouldn't exactly fit, bit I could see the basilisk returning instead, although it should be an actual snake if it does otherwise it looks too much like the Kirin.

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