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War-overlord
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posted December 01, 2010 04:47 PM |
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So a Humanticore or a Mantiman?
How do genders decide on the name?
That is not the point I'm trying to make here. I was trying to argue that if you crossbreed a human and a manticore, the result is not a manticore still.
Also, I did not make up the names of tiger/lion hybrids. Don't ask me why it matters. I just happen to know that they are called different with different parents.
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(Lion + Bat + Scorpion) + Human + Undead = H6 Lamassu
Also this is wrong. It should be Manticore + Human = Lamasu. Manticores aren't the crossbreed of Lions Bats and Scorpions in HoMM. They are creatures which happen to resemble Lions, Dragons and Scorpions in parts of their anatomy, but they are their own species.
But the point to be made is Either call the creature Lamasu or Sphinx if the need is that high. But do not turn the one into the other.
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Aatos
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posted December 01, 2010 06:10 PM |
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(Lion + Bat + Scorpion) + Human + Undead = H6 Lamassu
Also this is wrong. It should be Manticore + Human = Lamasu. Manticores aren't the crossbreed of Lions Bats and Scorpions in HoMM. They are creatures which happen to resemble Lions, Dragons and Scorpions in parts of their anatomy, but they are their own species.
The Manticore is a mix of different creatures no matter where it is used. It is a fantasy creature created by mixing normal creatures together.
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Is there any actual difference between stoning and paralyzing? Hmmm... 200 gold for paralyzing, speed and 2 combat points... Scorpicores are a bit too expensive and 80 hit points is not enough - that's what happens when you breed a lion-bat-scorpion.
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Deterrent creatures with a lion's body, a dragon's wings and a scorpion's tale, the Manticores are worthy opponents
from http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/
Also from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manticore
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Paiazza
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posted December 01, 2010 08:47 PM |
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The world Manticore literally means man-eater. It is formed from two words which literally mean "man" and the other means "devour" or "to eat".
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Cepheus
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posted December 01, 2010 11:39 PM |
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Tonight, after much negotiation, whining, a passionate speech, pointing to threads like this one, concerns about demographics, more whining from me and some fortunate or unfortunate compromises, we saw the finalised creature names.
While there are still some cases I'd give my right arm to change or improve (one in particular), what's done is done - and it's generally a quite satisfactory list, especially for the last two factions. Much better than what you would have seen, let me tell you. And as you requested - no Sphinx, no Chimera 
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Jabanoss
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posted December 01, 2010 11:44 PM |
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And as you requested - no Sphinx, no Chimera
Thanks, I approve of this 
And as for they other things you mentioned, it sound quite interesting
I look forward to see the creatures and their names.
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Zenofex
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posted December 02, 2010 09:16 AM |
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Tonight, after much negotiation, whining, a passionate speech, pointing to threads like this one, concerns about demographics, more whining from me and some fortunate or unfortunate compromises, we saw the finalised creature names.
Are they classified for now or we can learn about at least one or two changes regarding the most controversial names (if they are changed of course)?
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War-overlord
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posted December 02, 2010 10:08 AM |
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Good job Cepheus. Any chance we get to see the list any time soon?
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Jackson
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posted December 03, 2010 03:27 AM |
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Thank you Cepheus. I guess this topic is no longer relevant. I hope we were able to help. And I apologize for not updating this thread recently, I became more busy and it became more messy at the same time. I kept meaning to come back and update it. Thanks to everyone who voiced their thoughts here.
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Cepheus
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posted December 03, 2010 03:42 PM |
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Nothing much I can tell you as long as I don't want my head chopped off and fed to the "Grave Ghouls".  No miracles with the revealed factions; it was mainly the two "unknown" factions we got improved, but for those you know: Temptress/Succubus, Excruciator and Bone Guard are touched up. We know Mother Breeders and Demented aren't great, but were unable to get them changed unfortunately - probably because localisation seems to have started before our debates got going. The notoriously horrible Grave Ghoul is also a little bit better.
@Jackson - No problem and thanks, it was indeed more than useful, mainly thanks to all the passion about naming expressed here
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War-overlord
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posted December 03, 2010 05:23 PM |
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No miracles with the revealed factions; it was mainly the two "unknown" factions we got improved
Aha, I knew it! You and Elvin already know what the two other factions are. And you have been keeping us in the dark all this time. You've been holding out on us.
I'm glad some of the more terrible names have been updated. To be quite honest, I was not expecting much strech when it came to that. So this is somewhat of a relief.
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I know, you could not and still cannot tell us anything, without violating your NDA. I just wanted to get some bile out of the ol' system.
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Cepheus
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posted December 03, 2010 05:28 PM |
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You and Elvin already know what the two other factions are. And you have been keeping us in the dark all this time. You've been holding out on us.
Not really. Sir Charles already unveiled that tidbit at Ubi's forums some time ago.
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posted December 03, 2010 05:31 PM |
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Nothing much I can tell you as long as I don't want my head chopped off and fed to the "Grave Ghouls". No miracles with the revealed factions; it was mainly the two "unknown" factions we got improved, but for those you know: Temptress/Succubus, Excruciator and Bone Guard are touched up. We know Mother Breeders and Demented aren't great, but were unable to get them changed unfortunately - probably because localisation seems to have started before our debates got going. The notoriously horrible Grave Ghoul is also a little bit better.
@Jackson - No problem and thanks, it was indeed more than useful, mainly thanks to all the passion about naming expressed here
Awesome, thanks so much for that! It's really great that Black Hole is working so closely with the fan community on this one, I give them major accolades for that.
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posted December 06, 2010 10:17 AM |
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Facebook update:
"Thanks to your different feedback, we’ve reviewed some creature names:
- Priestess is now Sister
- Temptress is now Lilim
- Excruciator is now Lacerator
- Juggernaut Ravager is now Ravager
- Bone Guard is now Skeletal Spearman
- Grave Ghoul is now Ravenous Ghoul
- Putrid Lamasu is now Lamasu
- Festering Lamasu is now Putrid Lamasu
Photo Albums have been updated accordingly "
Not really liking Sister and Skeletal Spearman, too regular. The rest are good.
I assume this does mean that Cerberus has 3 heads after all?
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Demonge
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more than meets the eyes
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posted December 06, 2010 10:50 AM |
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So is it now Sister > Vestal, or Sister > Priestess?
And are Radiant and Blazing Glories confirmed then?
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Danny
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posted December 06, 2010 10:52 AM |
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Sister + Vestal, yes. The ones that were not listed here are obviously unchanged.
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Zenofex
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posted December 06, 2010 11:07 AM |
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Lilim? What the hell is lilim?
It's the plural (these people will never learn, just like with the Seraphim case) of lili, belonging to the somewhat vaguely defined class of the lilitu demons of Mesopotamia. But I'm not really sure whether lili is feminine or masculine.
OK, we have some changes, but some of them are for the worse. Vestal wasn't perfect, but Sister??? Whose sister??? Nun, anyone?
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Zenofex
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posted December 06, 2010 11:16 AM |
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And Lilith is a re-painted version of Lamashtu and the lilitu demons in general - as usual, the root is much deeper than what one can find in the Bible and its related writings, which quite often use reworked versions of earlier myths/creatures. Lili could be used I guess (if it is feminine), but not in this current plural form (lilin).
As for Sister - my bad here. Not that it makes sense anyway.
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Agent_00_BLeRD
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posted December 06, 2010 12:24 PM |
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radox
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posted December 06, 2010 01:47 PM |
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Almost all of the changes are extremely stupid and again demonstrate the lack of knowledge of the English language of the developers...
Why the hell is the upgraded Skeleton called Skeletal spearman when even the unupgraded one wields spears???
What the crap does LILIM mean? Temptress was perfect.
I again repeat that Lamasu is one of the most incredibly stupid things I've ever seen or heard. That's a name of a deity, how can you call an unit like that.
Sister? Stupidal as hell. Why don't they call the whole Haven lineup like Brother, Aunt, Uncle, Grandma and so on...
Disappointing, disappointing, disappointing...
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veco
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who am I?
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posted December 06, 2010 01:50 PM |
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Damn, I love users who do nothing but complain
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