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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted June 29, 2011 07:18 PM
Edited by SwampLord at 19:19, 29 Jun 2011.

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Yeah, as reported about six or seven months ago already.

hey, it was around that time I joined. Memory's rusty.
Though it would have been nice if they had fixed that dumb decision too, because really, "how many seminal elements can we remove while still maintaining that classic HoMM feel"?


That's what town screens have me worried about at the moment. I was perfectly willing to swallow no creature tiers, none of the classic resources, only five factions, and give the game a chance to prove itself to me, because it would still have the Heroes "feel".

Killing distinct and detailed town screens, though, makes me rethink that. If they're willing to so casually throw away one of the cornerstones of the series, I'm afraid for what we might lose next.

I'm still going to give all of Heroes VI's changes a chance, but I am a bit more apprehensive about them now than I was a month or two ago.
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xerox
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Promising
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posted June 29, 2011 07:20 PM

Actually, I think the Area of Control works really good in the game. Though I do not get why EVERY SINGLE FORT has to be guarded by the same elementals. >.>
I think the ironic thing is that the Area of Control would have worked even better with multiple resources.

However, there are other things I miss much more from the old Heroes games that contribute to the "souless" feeling I get from the game: TOWN WINDOWS!!! Few resources, classic adventure map objects are missing, skill system changed no more box after you level up where you get to choose between 4 random skills, ugly menu-based spellbook and boring UI etc.

And don't worry, you can still capture NEUTRAL mines with your Heroes and I believe there is going to be a feature in the future that will let you turn them off.

Also EVERYBODY just HAVE to play the Naga mission. I LOL:ed IRL when hearing the Naga voices. xDD
Also I love the cut-scenes though I wish they would return to Heroes 3s awesome "CGI" cinematics.
And I just KNEW that Irina wanted to do some incest stuff with her brother. xD I love Irina.

And I do not get what the point is with creating your own Heroes in Conflux and then spec them, when there isn't even a duel mode in the beta atm (which there really should be).
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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 29, 2011 07:20 PM

@ Elvin
That never was a problem for me, actually.
Gave the A.I something else to focus on

But this whole control point thingie doesn't make a whole lot of sense, immersion-wise.

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Meherunes
Meherunes


Adventuring Hero
Daedra Summoner
posted June 29, 2011 07:47 PM

LOL at the Naga voices. Katsue's voice is so funny. Every word finishes by 'a' like 'wata' instead of 'water'.
On a more serious note I hate the human town. They could at LEAST make it look as in menu. Otherwise H5 town was marvelous compared to this one, so I would like getting that back.
Naga town is fine. Necro I prefered H5 again but i wont scream as for human town. Demon and Orc didnt really see alot yet so I'll comment on those later.
So basically, Plz town screens and plz go back to H5 design for towns.

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kusosaru
kusosaru


Hired Hero
posted June 29, 2011 07:47 PM

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Also EVERYBODY just HAVE to play the Naga mission. I LOL:ed IRL when hearing the Naga voices. xDD


Sounds like pseudo-japanese. At least I imagine that a Japanese woman trying to talk english sounds different.

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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted June 29, 2011 07:50 PM

Me no rikey.
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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 29, 2011 07:52 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 19:54, 29 Jun 2011.

So nagas are basically the Jar Jar Binkses of Ashan then?

Edit: Is it Lo Wang style or more subtle?

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 29, 2011 07:54 PM

I have trouble telling if they are trying to sound authentic or trying to sound pseudo-authentic. Saa
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itwasntme
itwasntme


Hired Hero
#tigerblood
posted June 29, 2011 08:10 PM

In the lower left corner of my screen theres some red VRAM numbers...

With my 5770 these are typically:

85% of VRAM used
795MB/780MB

I'll test my 6950 tonight and see if the usage increases to match available VRAM, but if it does it seems like its adaptable to your gpu.  I like that.

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Mitzah
Mitzah


Promising
Supreme Hero
of the Horadrim
posted June 29, 2011 08:21 PM
Edited by Mitzah at 20:23, 29 Jun 2011.

Thanks a lot Ubisoft for you crappy server(s)! I tried like 20 or 30 times to download the game yesterday with no luck. This morning, I finally managed, but I got a CRC error. I tried again, downloading (SLOW) with 2 browsers at a time (and my connexion is very fast) and I got over 30 CRC errors.



So I'm pretty sure the game, once released, will be unplayable online. Right now I'm waiting for the Firefox download to finish but I'm not getting my hopes up. 24 hours and no game.
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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted June 29, 2011 08:21 PM
Edited by infinitus at 20:26, 29 Jun 2011.

Upgrade: Marksman is very annoying to me. I upgraded them and omg, Piercing Bolt shoot one opponent stack and two allied stacks. Why to upgrade them ? I preffer my ranged units to be covered by sentinels and sisters to prevent shooters get blocked in two turns. Hate this ...

Logistic bonus to movment 3% compared to H5 bonus from 10 to 30% looks very strange. Such big nerf of logistic make it useless to me
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Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted June 29, 2011 08:24 PM

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Upgrade: Marksman is very annoying to me. I upgraded them and omg, Piercing Bolt shoot one opponent stack and two allied stacks. Why to upgrade them ? I preffer my ranged units to be covered by sentinels and sisters to prevent shooters get blocked in two turns. Hate this ...


You'll get used to it. If you have tactics and place them at one corner of the map, then just remember to watch the tooltip for x damage x creatures will die die to see if it includes allied stacks. I find with the corner placement I can often hit 2-3 enemy stacks without catching my own. Tactics is essential for Haven anyway.

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted June 29, 2011 08:31 PM
Edited by infinitus at 20:36, 29 Jun 2011.

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You'll get used to it.

Don't think so, for creep this upgrade it's just useless. Maybe for final battle this may work.
Things look more logic this way : marksman primary unit, because of technological imperfections and drunk state they may shoot your own troops Upgrade Crossbowman - better technology they shoot only opponents troops now  
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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted June 29, 2011 08:39 PM

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They didn't fix the problem with the resources? I have captured the crystal mine but get no daily income...


It might have just been a week of "low income" or whatever its called. If memory serves it halves all resources income and drops crystal to 0.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 29, 2011 08:41 PM

Crossbows shoot straight, that's as logical as it gets. You'll have to use them like the H5 mages except you still have sentinels you can place next to them. Obviously they work better against large units where it's easier to get them in a row. Regardless.. suppose you shoot down a few sentinels, one heal later and they are back.
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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted June 29, 2011 08:54 PM
Edited by infinitus at 20:55, 29 Jun 2011.

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Regardless.. suppose you shoot down a few sentinels, one heal later and they are back.

Easier to me is not to upgrade them at all.
Sure archmages work the same, but they was casters, you shoot at start of battle and later cast spells with them.
In case of marksman they got blocked in two turns by neutrals if not covered, zero positive effect from piercing bolt.
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
posted June 29, 2011 09:37 PM

OK, fiinally downloaded the beta, and after circa 2 hours of gameplay, here's my new-and-improved impression:

1.TOWN WINDOWS SUCK BIG TIME!!!!!
2.It really is more polished than the VIP one(Since the public one is out, can I now talk freely about the VIP beta, or should I edit?)
3. However, it has more bugs, I think(encountered 10 or so bugs in VIP, no crashes during 8 hours, versus approximately 13-14 bugs and 3 crashes during 2 hours in public)
4. Stronghold feels a bit OP, not sure though, little time to check. Goblin's ability is too easy to abuse, for example.

I was skeptical about the whole reduced resources/AoC business, but I'm happy to say it actually adds to the game's strategic depth. Did they really remove the 1+1/castle hero limit? If so, I'm saddened. I quite liked that particular feature.(Again, no time to check). UI seems to be in need of improvement, I had quite a few misclicks, both in the VIP and the public beta.I do not worry about it yet, cause it's one of the easiest things to modify, so it often gets pushed back. Active skills are either IMBA(Heal) or too weak. Additionally, the Hero's basic attack is quite strong. Battles feel EPIC for the first time since H2(I know, I'm probably biased a bit, but still ), so a big plus there. The music is... of the usual quality(=totally awesome ), but I hope there will be more tracks in the vanilla.Seriously, if not for the TW-fiasco, I'd say this would be the best HoMM yet, in spite of the name change, because nothing seems too broken, there's plenty of time to take care of the little imperfections, balancing, etc... I mean that's what the Beta-phase is for, right? The graphics are nice, though just a bit too HV-esque, and it runs smoothly, despite my pretty weak video card.(Projectiles are a bit on the slow side, though, dunno why, the rest is fine, even on very high quality settings)All in all, it's pretty good, and has loads of potential...AS LONG AS THEY FIX THE TOWN SCREENS!  
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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted June 29, 2011 09:41 PM

Has somebody please made a mod that removes the "connect button" in the upper right corner??
Seriously that one has to go!
I've only played for like 2 hours now, and already have I accidentally pushed the button twice.

Can't I at least disable it?
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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted June 29, 2011 09:41 PM

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Regardless.. suppose you shoot down a few sentinels, one heal later and they are back.

Easier to me is not to upgrade them at all.
Sure archmages work the same, but they was casters, you shoot at start of battle and later cast spells with them.
In case of marksman they got blocked in two turns by neutrals if not covered, zero positive effect from piercing bolt.


Finally the game is working... They fixed it somehow....
and, I like marksmen...i dont see why dont you like them...
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 29, 2011 09:59 PM
Edited by Elvin at 22:00, 29 Jun 2011.

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and, I like marksmen...i dont see why dont you like them...

They make him think too much

@polyglot
You.. counted less bugs..? In the closed beta? I need to lay down for a bit. PS I like your enthusiasm.
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