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artu
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posted July 22, 2014 12:14 AM |
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How is it a pun? There's no word with double-meaning. It's an analogy.
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mvassilev
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posted July 22, 2014 12:35 AM |
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xerox
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posted July 22, 2014 12:39 AM |
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Edited by xerox at 02:33, 22 Jul 2014.
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You're right. I came up with another for the text:
xerox said:
"That the welfare state is a systematic violation of a human's rights, is a fact that liberals must relate to.
xerox said:
"Even if the majority supported secession to Russia, liberals should not support a separatist cause which if successful, will condemn people to less freedom."
xerox said:
"Theoretically, the just position for a liberal would be to support the annhiliation of any prospects towards an independent Palestine. In practice, it's a lot more difficult than that."
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Over himself, over his own
body and
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- John Stuart Mill
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mvassilev
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posted July 22, 2014 02:22 AM |
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Quoting yourself is kind of lame.
"Quoting yourself is kind of lame." - Mvass
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xerox
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posted July 22, 2014 02:28 AM |
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Edited by xerox at 02:29, 22 Jul 2014.
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I thought egoism was a virtue. But maaaaaybe this is just narcissism though=ppppPPppppPPPp
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
sovereign.
- John Stuart Mill
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artu
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posted July 22, 2014 02:29 AM |
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"And they are opinions rather than aphorisms" Artu
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mvassilev
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posted July 25, 2014 01:06 AM |
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xerox said:
I thought egoism was a virtue.
Egoism is not narcissism.
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artu
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posted July 25, 2014 01:54 AM |
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Edited by artu at 01:55, 25 Jul 2014.
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“Consider the subtleness of the sea; how its most dreaded creatures glide under water, unapparent for the most part, and treacherously hidden beneath the loveliest tints of azure. Consider also the devilish brilliance and beauty of many of its most remorseless tribes, as the dainty embellished shape of many species of sharks. Consider, once more, the universal cannibalism of the sea; all whose creatures prey upon each other, carrying on eternal war since the world began.
Consider all this; and then turn to the green, gentle, and most docile earth; consider them both, the sea and the land; and do you not find a strange analogy to something in yourself? For as this appalling ocean surrounds the verdant land, so in the soul of man there lies one insular Tahiti, full of peace and joy, but encompassed by all the horrors of the half-known life. God keep thee! Push not off from that isle, thou canst never return!”
- Herman Melville, Moby Dick
For whatever we lose (like a you or a me),
It's always our self we find in the sea.
- e.e. Cummings
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mvassilev
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posted July 25, 2014 10:28 PM |
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"It's shocking to me to even hear anyone on the left make equivocations or proclaim that they believe 'Israel should exist'. It's as foul as someone saying they believe the US should exist, or Russia. If this sort of softness on nationalism and slaughter is a consequence of tensions in the emerging popular ideologies of social justice, then that is a serious strike against them. The one bare minimum we can all agree on is that all nations should be abolished and all borders dissolved, if you can't ultimately get behind that when it comes to one of loudest, most prominent, haughty, and belligerent case studies in extreme nationalism on this planet you need to leave." - William Gillis
"Friends of immigration restrictions often compare nations to families. I'll accept their analogy. I love my children more than I love the rest of you put together. This is a good reason to worry that I'll treat you unjustly if there's ever a conflict of interest. But it's no excuse for me to treat you unjustly. 'I want my beloved son to get this job' does not justify slashing rival candidates' tires the morning of the final interview. The same goes for immigration policy. Your love for Americans may tempt you to treat foreigners unjustly, but it's no excuse for treating them unjustly." - Bryan Caplan
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fred79
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posted August 22, 2014 07:21 AM |
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for you, mvass:
"With the Good Shepherd no longer leading us through the valley of the shadow of death, we need something to maintain our sanity. Cynicism's ironic stance is a weak attempt to maintain a lighthearted equilibrium in a world gone mad."
-Paul E. Miller
(i'm still reading about any correlation between cynicism and intelligence; but for now, this quote makes sense. not about any god, mind you, but about justfiying cynicism. i left the quote complete, so the entire quote couldn't be used to attack what i wanted to post.  )
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fred79
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posted August 22, 2014 07:50 AM |
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“Curmudgeons speak up because they have to, because it’s become critically important for them to tell the truth as they see it. Telling the truth is as natural to them now as when they were children. The fact that no one cares to listen is inconsequential.
What curmudgeons don’t realize, however, is that most people can’t handle the truth they force on everyone within earshot–not when it comes from others. For the truth is something we need to discover for ourselves, each in our own heart, each in our own time, each in our own way. The truth–your truth, my truth–is something we need to hear directly from God, preferably on long walks by the sea."
But curmudgeons don’t care. Most annoying of all, they don’t understand that no one appreciates the absurdities of the human condition flung in their faces–reason enough for them to bite their tongues, but they seldom do.”
-Lionel Fisher
(one could replace "God" with "ourselves", in this statement, if it better suits you. this quote makes sense to me, why some would hate me, for me repeating myself. i can understand, i really can. i can relate to this quote easily, because if i say something, that is a truth that people refuse to hear, i simply do not care; i will repeat it until they get it. i would go so far as chaining everyone who doubts what i say down, and i would repeat myself, screaming, with a megaphone into their ****ing ears, that which they would deny. humanity, and the world they live on, have EVER-DECREASING TIME for self-realizations.)
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mvassilev
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posted August 30, 2014 12:04 AM |
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"Do you know what I think of when someone asks for solidarity? I think of cops. Nobody shows more solidarity than cops. You could have a cop on video beating the crap out of someone, with a dozen of his fellow cops standing there watching, and not a one will cross that blue line to do what is right... Solidarity is about group cohesion, which means you have to see value in group belonging. And I don't. I've never wanted to belong to a group. All too often, group belonging means conformity. It's why the Amish all dress the same. It's why every kid in middle school has to run out and buy the same pair of jeans as their friends... If you want me to do something or support something, do not appeal to me on the basis of group identity. Appeal to me on principle. Appeal to a real human relationship that we have. If I think your cause is just, I'll be there... If you just want solidarity, join the mob or the white nationalists or the police force." - Melanie Pinkert
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fred79
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posted August 30, 2014 04:11 AM |
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mvassilev
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posted September 04, 2014 12:42 AM |
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"I want markets in part because I believe that markets destroy traditional institutions, and because traditional institutions very often richly deserve to be destroyed... What I predict is emphatically not a traditional society, but something nearer its opposite... It's an intensely egalitarian, borderless, leaderless, nearly anarchic post-scarcity society. Recreation has replaced the career, and it is pursued with a focus and an intensity that we barely understand. Sexuality is fluid, voluntary, safe, and fun. Drugs? Genetically engineered glands provide safe, non-addictive alterations in mood and/or perception, whenever you want them. Death? It's usually a choice, because aging and disease no longer exist... In short, I think that commerce is going to upset nearly everything traditional about our society." - Jason Kuznicki
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artu
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posted September 09, 2014 01:02 AM |
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I just heard this on a TV show and it sounded too quotesque, googled it, turns out it was Niels Bohr (makes sense since he was one of the characters in the show):
The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth.
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mvassilev
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posted September 09, 2014 02:20 AM |
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"If everyone is guilty, then it's not possible to punish everyone. And you wind up not punishing the real bad guys; you punish whoever you're upset at right now, and let genuine villains go free... If everyone smokes pot, and pot is illegal, then anyone can be punished, but not everyone will be. Who gets punished? Whoever the cop doesn't like." - commenter on a blog I read
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 09, 2014 08:09 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 08:10, 09 Sep 2014.
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“No one has ever written, painted, sculpted, modeled, built, or invented except literally to get out of hell.”
- Antonin Artaud
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted September 09, 2014 08:23 AM |
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Galaad said:
“No one has ever written, painted, sculpted, modeled, built, or invented except literally to get out of hell.”
- Antonin Artaud
I'd rather say those are usually the best kind of works if the creator is already talented and experienced enough. Of course, what Artaud may have meant is, those are the only works that actually count artistically but that's an illusion quite often.
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Sandman
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posted September 09, 2014 10:40 AM |
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Edited by Sandman at 15:48, 09 Sep 2014.
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"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."
Ralph waldo Emerson
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 09, 2014 03:43 PM |
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“The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts.”
- Marcus Aurelius
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