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Thread: TEW IV Commodus' Revenge This Popular Thread is 109 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 20 40 60 80 100 ... 105 106 107 108 109 · «PREV / NEXT»
Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted August 20, 2022 08:07 AM

The thing is, I modified Tew4 to work with Era 3. As I run windows 10 I can't install Era2 anymore so I have no idea if tew4 era 3 version still works with Era 2.

So my suggestion would be to get Era 3, disable all coming mods except wog then Tew4 will work for sure.

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fxfxfx
fxfxfx

Tavern Dweller
posted August 20, 2022 10:36 AM

Ah that's nice. I prefer ERA3 to ERA2
Thank you for your answer again!
I've really enjoyed all of your maps.

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saintjimmy
saintjimmy


Hired Hero
posted August 20, 2022 11:16 PM

Hi, played this map some years ago, now feeling nostalgic and started again with the TEW series. However, now, on TEW IV, right on the start, I can't ( or forgot how to ) leave guard at the red tent. Using ERA 3.8 clean install, no extra mods installed. And i use the map uploaded to gdrive ( a few posts back ).

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted August 21, 2022 07:29 AM

Maybe hold down Control or Alt while clicking on the nearby ground. The optimal solution is to start with artifact option so you don't have to leave a creature.

If none of the above commands work, ask the guys of Era 3 launcher, it means they changed how it worked.

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wasilix2
wasilix2

Tavern Dweller
posted August 22, 2022 10:54 AM

For what it's worth, I'm playing it on Era 2.9, and it was more or less perfect. I didn't play Era 3 though, maybe it's even better there

As an aside, I'm finishing my MoW playthrough on Hell. Oh boy it's so much fun. Much less micromanagement than MoE. Screwed myself a little bit by giving No Retal early on to efreets to make farming CBs with them without devils easier, but I don't think it will matter in the end.

I have a question about MoS: does logistics specialty/logistics multiply special level movement bonuses and/or logistics master bonus? It seems that if it does, it should be pretty good, but if it doesn't the specialty is almost irrelevant.

Once again, thanks for such a great map!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted August 22, 2022 12:38 PM

With MoS, Commodus should end with ~10k daily movement, so yes.

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wasilix2
wasilix2

Tavern Dweller
posted August 22, 2022 01:01 PM

Salamandre said:
With MoS, Commodus should end with ~10k daily movement, so yes.


Interesting. It doesn't sound impressive at all. I kid you not, I think he has around 13k in my current game as MoW (with roughly 4 bonuses taken as movement). Now, my math is off top of my head here and may be wrong, but I remember that my Commodus had exactly 10k in my 1st MoE game. I don't think logistics multiply items bonuses, so my naked Commodus MoE would have:

10000 - 2000 (for boots) - 1500 (additional bonus for set?) - 300 (for gloves, maybe slightly different) = 6200.

Logistics give 30% bonus, the base movement should be around:
6200 / 1.3 = 4770

Thus, bonus is: 6200 - 4770 = 1430

In the end Commodus is level 60+. For simplicity, let's take level 60. It would give 3 times this bonus.
10000 + 1430 * 3 = 14290

It's also interesting for lowly dudes who in my current game have 3100 movement points, and logistics specially should bring them to a respectable 4500.

Maybe I should do some math with the game itself, so that I could test it though.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted August 22, 2022 01:52 PM

Then my memory doesn't serve me well. In MoS they get much  more movement, as they are all logistic specialists, have boots from start + all the bonuses from map and scripts. Didn't play MoS in the last 5 years so...

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wasilix2
wasilix2

Tavern Dweller
posted August 22, 2022 01:58 PM

Salamandre said:
Then my memory doesn't serve me well. In MoS they get much  more movement, as they are all logistic specialists, have boots from start + all the bonuses from map and scripts. Didn't play MoS in the last 5 years so...


"Much more" sounds about right to me Once I finish MoW, I'm thinking about recording a playthrough (it's going to be long...), not sure about which faction. I'll definitely play MoS at some point.

Thank you for your reply!

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saintjimmy
saintjimmy


Hired Hero
posted August 29, 2022 08:22 PM

need to farm demons in MOD to win the game ? well,I didn't do that, i'm on month 6 .. is it too late now ?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted August 29, 2022 09:06 PM

When battles will become unwinable with devils, you will start farming.

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saintjimmy
saintjimmy


Hired Hero
posted September 01, 2022 01:37 PM

Salamandre said:
When battles will become unwinable with devils, you will start farming.


I'm at 80% through the game and hell barons with stats maximized win  every battle, almost too easy. But for safety measures I started farming
Anyway, great map man, thank you for your hard work ! Any plans for TEW 5 maybe in the future ? @hoping

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted September 01, 2022 03:50 PM

saintjimmy said:
@hoping
I'm with you brother, still hoping to read the end of ASOI&F...
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted September 01, 2022 05:09 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 17:15, 01 Sep 2022.

saintjimmy said:

I'm at 80% through the game and hell barons with stats maximized win  every battle, almost too easy.



There are 7 difficulties. When people ask advice I always consider the latest difficulty, hell.

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saintjimmy
saintjimmy


Hired Hero
posted September 02, 2022 06:35 PM

Defeteat Maximus on month 9, no farming, only using Hell Barons (with classic strategy of getting hit only by 2 units at a time).
Yes, I played on n00b difficulty level, just wanted to explore the map first and refresh my memory. Next time will increase difficulty.
But I don't know if it's a bug, I couldn't get to the awesome artefacts located on the north area (underworld).
Can you have a look on my save ?
https://fastupload.io/en/iNA3IoKKKvIc7A1/file


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wasilix2
wasilix2

Tavern Dweller
posted September 03, 2022 10:16 PM
Edited by wasilix2 at 09:08, 04 Sep 2022.

Playthrough on youtube

Hi everyone!

If anyone is interested, I recorded a playthrough for MoW on Hell on youtube. It's fairly long, but there are some timestamps for each video that will help you somewhat with navigation. Given that a pretty significant portion of time is spent on creature banks, some videos contains close to no action with Commodus, while others may contain many boss fights in a row.

Finished in 5 months and a half.

I hope you enjoy and find it useful

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL02MwI3vxw6mqdp5pK_wqNGjs6SObmnKo
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted September 04, 2022 09:25 AM

wasilix2 said:
I recorded a playthrough
And several others... Thx, watching the Scars Brothers right now.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 04, 2022 11:23 AM

Very smart, you removed attack all around from demons for last battle thus they all stay inside, minimal casualties.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 04, 2022 11:26 AM

saintjimmy said:

Can you have a look on my save ?


I can't load your save, it freezes. Anyway, if you didn't reach the conflux underground, means you missed the white border guard south from your central town. (the 4th you get early).

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wasilix2
wasilix2

Tavern Dweller
posted September 04, 2022 11:45 AM
Edited by wasilix2 at 17:06, 05 Sep 2022.

Salamandre said:
Very smart, you removed attack all around from demons for last battle thus they all stay inside, minimal casualties.


Thank you I did it without losses in demons in my previous 2 finishes, but didn't bother going for it this time, just because there is no point really.

You may also like how Zydar can be abused. I saw that you were a little bit disappointed about how MoE can abuse that fact that Zydar can only cast cure against MoE, but actually dispel barely changes much for other factions. At some point during this fight I lose the primary AD stack and then simply forgetfullness and resurrect while they are standing still. I didn't have to use this "reset" in my previous finishes, but I always had it in mind as a last resort to try and save the attempt.

I'm not sure though what is the expected way of beating him if not this one. I don't think I would be able to beat him without these shenenigans, so I'm actually curious what is the way you envisioned this fight.

Successful attempt (requires some luck in first 2 turns):
https://youtu.be/Ht3kJoZisGY?t=3562

Skills on ADs:
https://youtu.be/Ht3kJoZisGY?t=3421
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