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Thread: TEW IV Commodus' Revenge This thread is 88 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 20 40 60 80 ... 84 85 86 87 88 · «PREV / NEXT»
alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted April 12, 2013 10:56 AM

Double Attacks but not double stats, my AD stack can kill like 1700 Azure Dragons (Gurnisson) while the clone stack can kill only .... 60 and I was like LOL WHAT?!

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Hopefully will not work on Maximus.

Dat sarcasm

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 12, 2013 11:11 AM

I could give +100% damage to clones but it looks me like big exploit, you give it to demons, then split in 7 and you have 14 stacks nothing can stop. Clones are to be used to weak stacks until hypnotize limit, or block, not really for uber killing.

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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted April 12, 2013 11:26 AM

Clone is actually one of my main source of damage until the Combo, but I get your point, broken.

About the Magic Shop, now that I think again, to get one + Cast for Efreets you need 4000 Mithril, with that amount of Mithril you can get 40 damage for Demons (and thus 80 damage with the Combo). If you decide to get 2 Cast then 160 damage, it's almost closed to AD's damage at this point. So I think I will try to get damage for Demons instead of upgrading Cast and annihilate everything before Efreets run out of Resurrection instead of getting + Cast (also it scales better with Bless). Going to test right now.

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OvidiuG
OvidiuG


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posted April 12, 2013 12:37 PM
Edited by OvidiuG at 12:47, 12 Apr 2013.

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my AD stack can kill like 1700 Azure Dragons (Gurnisson) while the clone stack can kill only .... 60


I actually found this thing very beneficial , Many times I got into resurrection phase while having left a small stack of a troop with no retaliation. For instance 400 azure dragons. Attacking that with main stack of Devils or Demons would 've been much more dmg than needed but 400 azures were still killing a hefty amount of demons which would've pushed my resurrection casts to a limit above my mana points or above my patience point .

So clone AD's double kill 80, get the number to 10 after 2 attacks -> win.

About mithril vs dmg on demons I am also for offense.

Why bother going defensive and buy 1 more Resurrection cast? buy dmg on demons to a point where you reach same dmg to a devil. Then I wanna see who would stand in front.

If Valery really wants Resurrection to have a mandatory role, then he must increase troops of Maximus to a point where even 200 dmg demons won't suffice if not protected , but I think is risky.

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Salamandre
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posted April 12, 2013 12:44 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 12:49, 12 Apr 2013.

Exactly, sometimes I even let him kill enough devils (if close) until the clone can kill 95% of his stack, then resurrect takes much less.

And then the clone has luck (first time since 5 hours of hit) and I have to redo the battle again, while the neighbor knocks at the door, thinking I got killed by an asteroid (so loud I yelled pi*da m*mii tale de nenorocit!)
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted April 12, 2013 03:49 PM

Sal are the chances to get Mithril equal with other bonuses? Because all I get now are Devils, Devils, and more Devils (though not like there is anything to complain about though). I have already got the Fire Orb and All Skill bonus btw.

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OvidiuG
OvidiuG


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posted April 12, 2013 05:21 PM

SO I said I want to have some fun and try MoD

played a bit and was about to go and teach Damacon a lesson when i opened abilities screen and noticed this:



SHouldn't there be cast poison, stack with Bless ? Looks like I still got Champion distance bonus ?
I downloaded latest pack from this thread's link and last Commodus erm as I read there were some probs for MoD.

What did I miss?
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted April 12, 2013 05:40 PM
Edited by alisapa1211 at 17:41, 12 Apr 2013.

Some change proposes:

_ Add a button to find prisoners that haven't been released, sometime when all CBs are cleared I have some free time to train a noob it's quite painful to search around the entire map to find one Hero.

_ Remove the chance to fight against Inferno faction in Arena, it doesn't make any sense to fight against them since your upgrades also boost them (AD fight is pretty much impossible), also contradicts the theme and plot of the game imo. It's also hard to fight Bleack/Yellow Dragons without loss but I'm gonna skip this. Also does Arena reward scale with time? Because I keep getting around 40 Mithril per Expert fight here.

_ Arena and Dragon Caves now give Spoil of War, kinda weird to see you fight 5000 Nagas per stack and receive nothing after, you can add a fix rate that is much much lower than normal SoW reward, but there still should be something. Maybe only applied to MoW? I don't know.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 12, 2013 07:08 PM

Ovidiu, you must delete old version in mod manager (delete button) before installing new. Graphics changed so new pac.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted April 13, 2013 11:43 AM

4 constant weeks of Devils Bonus... I think I'm gonna go insane here

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 13, 2013 12:06 PM

For first time, playing MoD, feels like cheating, nothing can stop me. But barons are so expensive, need some additional income.

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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted April 13, 2013 12:08 PM

Wait... Month 3 week 4 but only Olema, isn't that just so so speed?!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 13, 2013 12:10 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 12:16, 13 Apr 2013.

Visiting all mines takes time when no MoS...want to test treasure hunters. Next bonus on Commodus will take all skills, so I don't worry about later, then only mithril I think.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted April 13, 2013 12:21 PM

Why is the need to get all skills with the new Witch Huts change? Unless your Hero is really unlucky or something.

And Sal do you code the AI to automatically use Armageddon when they have the spell/blade? Kinda want to use Quick Combat at the moment.

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Salamandre
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posted April 13, 2013 12:25 PM

Because right now he got already 12 skills but no offense/armorer, and those are not in huts. Then why pay 30k gold for skills when I have option so early.

I don't know what he will cast in quick combat. Sometimes they win full CB's in quick with only a few devils, so I guess they cast it, but I wouldn't rely on quick combat without saving every time. AI can be dumb sometimes.
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OvidiuG
OvidiuG


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posted April 13, 2013 12:58 PM

Yea MoD is slow , but unstoppable
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master_learn
master_learn


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posted April 13, 2013 01:34 PM

@Sal,if you are determined enough this time,do a whole test,if not,I think you should at least battle Xeron before abandoning MoD.
I can't say there would be problems with him,but that the fight would be interesting.

@alisapa,you can try putting Orb(s) on map square(s) and see what happens with the bonus.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 13, 2013 01:56 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 14:09, 13 Apr 2013.

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Yea MoD is slow , but unstoppable


Still had to reload 10 times with Ajit, both darkness and black dragon had barons hatred, and I did not even have fire immunity because some stupid decision to choose skills instead of mithril.

Got him but lost 4 barons. Then next day Mutare pops, so I had to sell my armors, shields, pants and even Valeska's bra to get that fire because there is no other option. Bad strategy this time.
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OvidiuG
OvidiuG


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posted April 13, 2013 02:38 PM

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at least battle Xeron before abandoning MoD.


Will Xeron's barons have same stats as MoD barons?
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Salamandre
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posted April 13, 2013 03:25 PM

Exactly. Will see how it goes then report, I have one month to prepare to his arrival.
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