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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 13, 2013 10:04 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 22:07, 13 Apr 2013.

I mean mygame/mods folder. I see it there.

That button does nothing, no idea why it pops, I closed cycle devils>arch devils>hell barons. Just don't use it, it will lower experience.
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Salamandre
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posted April 13, 2013 11:24 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 23:25, 13 Apr 2013.

M_L, you were right about Xeron. With all the requests from Alisapa to prohibit certain crap skills,  I changed the hctraits.txt and Xeron now gets Tactics as hidden skills 100% while he was not supposed to have it.

Commodus.erm

Package replaced at same link, you need only update.

Without tactics he is dead meat but must be defeated on spot.

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master_learn
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posted April 13, 2013 11:51 PM

Are you talking about the spot he spawns from or a different one?

What difference does it make if he has tactics or not?
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Salamandre
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posted April 13, 2013 11:57 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 00:01, 14 Apr 2013.

If he has tactics, he moves first and you are dead before even moving one creature. He is master of barons, they have 28 speed. On spot there is an obstacle you can hide and let clones attack you, see pic.

This is if you play MoD, with others he has no abilities so they can be slowed, imploded, any spell, they have poor stats etc. But with MoD they have what you gave them.
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master_learn
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posted April 14, 2013 09:15 AM

I recommend MoD for everyone,who wants just to:
-enjoy the map and the battles with lesser need of reloading;
-to rest from the other factions or
-to see what Hell Barons do with or without their lair.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 14, 2013 09:33 AM

Hell Barons have both Fear and Fearless? Wow didn't know that. That's free 400 Mithrils + 2 Ability slots, not to mention you can give Fearless to Demons which is really strong. Also since HB already has Fear one new possible buff for MoD is changing the Fear special ability with something else.

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master_learn
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posted April 14, 2013 09:46 AM
Edited by master_learn at 09:59, 14 Apr 2013.

Or you can give fear and fearless to demons.

@alisapa,do you have an exact proposition for the new ability you ask for?
I think MoD have enough buffs,so new ability would be good if not really a buff.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 14, 2013 10:22 AM

Quote:
Or you can give fear and fearless to demons.

@alisapa,do you have an exact proposition for the new ability you ask for?
I think MoD have enough buffs,so new ability would be good if not really a buff.

Also said I will give fearless to demons. Fear doesn't stack, no it's unnecessary.

Nothing particular, just in case if Sal wants to give MoD factions some changes then that is the option. And there are also some Enchants that are good in all situations, Air Shield/Shield/Prayer for example.

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Salamandre
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posted April 14, 2013 01:19 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 13:36, 14 Apr 2013.

Previously I didn't test much MoD besides basic fights early game. Now I am playing it to see and I had to do very tiny modifications, nothing important but still: Xeron must not have tactics as hidden skill if you want to pass, also when visiting hell barons lair the names of haste/frenzy do not reset properly in code so you see different names in spell book. Just visual effect, will fix it next time I visit the lair and see why the code isn't read.

But I would not add anything, it is already way too easy and if you start the map with it, you will find the other factions very unpleasant after. Having each devil with 900 HP already at Gerwulf changes the perspective.

One thing is still very visible and makes the game different from now: you will find hatred vs your army creatures almost at every battle, so have to deal with.



And I find very fair that damage is halved when creature is stoned, at least not everything is over kill.

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master_learn
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posted April 14, 2013 04:00 PM

You could place a message at the devils camp for players to know what has happened when they visited it.
I didn't see such message for MoD in the old version.
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Salamandre
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posted April 14, 2013 04:07 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 16:10, 14 Apr 2013.

ML, I visited devil's camp with MoD, and when you do so, the view moves on barons lair, he tells you it opened, you see the obstacle removed in that moment, what more?

I mean look at the code:

you get message
!!IF:M^Long time ago, Maximus banned the Hell Barons out from this land. Only a bunch of them survived and retired in the Hell Barons Lair, south from here.
It is said that they are still training and every week get stronger. We should visit the Lair^;

view moves on lair
!!UN:S236/74/0/5/10;
!!UN:L236/74/0/2000;

obstacle is removed while you look at
!!UN:O236/77/0;
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master_learn
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posted April 14, 2013 04:51 PM

That means the old version didn't show it for some reason.
When I get there,will confirm what I get.
At the moment I have to meet Gerwulf and proceed further.
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Salamandre
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posted April 14, 2013 05:08 PM

This message was there since the very first version, maybe you were playing another faction and expected it or you closed fast, don't know.
As it is is very explicit.

Add 3 difficulty levels, anyone thinks good idea?

Easy: No AI growth, you can play until you have 52 infernos or you die of boredom.
Medium: Moderate growth, no speed increase.
Expert: as it is now.
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master_learn
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posted April 14, 2013 05:11 PM

That's en excelent(great) idea,very welcome!
As I see it,I would like to think of me as an expert.

Though you could make a professional one as well.
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Warmonger
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posted April 14, 2013 05:20 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 17:22, 14 Apr 2013.

Good idea I think. No growth at all will be complete slaughter, but at least people will be able to play it as slowly as they wish. I don't think it's likely to speedrun map (which you need now) before learning the map first.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 14, 2013 05:44 PM
Edited by alisapa1211 at 17:46, 14 Apr 2013.

I think just Medium and Expert are ok already. I mean MoD (Mithril bonus 100%) + No AI growth => Infinite dragon caves farming which is just lol. The growth is an important part of the game and player need to learn about it and schedule things properly even in their first play. Map is already easy to play at Expert level if you know what are you doing.

You can also make it like Alexander the Great, having the options to choose and slowly adjust the easy options to get better (for example easy => Caves and Arena give Spoil of War, none for Expert).

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Salamandre
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posted April 14, 2013 06:34 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 18:45, 14 Apr 2013.

I will make more options, about 5-6, not only about AI but also our movement, our creatures base growth and something like that.


What about:
;1 AI growth zero, heroes move twice more, our growth x 2
;2 AI growth zero, heroes move twice more
;3 AI growth zero
;4 AI growth 5%, no speed increase
;5 AI growth 10%, no speed increase
;6 AI growth 15%, +1 speed every month
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master_learn
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posted April 14, 2013 06:50 PM
Edited by master_learn at 18:55, 14 Apr 2013.

I don't know how option "impossible" should look like on your map.
I think Warmonger and you could imagine it in the way to be possible playing it to the end.

Having in mind the special levels,I vote from 3 to 6 from your post(would ignore 1 and 2).
Maybe impossible should be 20% growth + 1 speed every 3 weeks.
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Warmonger
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posted April 14, 2013 06:52 PM

Heroes don't need to move twice more, come on No AI growth will already be a breeze.

I'd split the hardest option into two - 15% AI growth or 15% AI growth + speed, only for hardcore players.
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Salamandre
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posted April 14, 2013 06:52 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 18:54, 14 Apr 2013.

Hardest option is what is now. I don't increase difficulty. I find the movement of factions besides MoS very slow, at least the first months. You spend one week to run and take 4-5 CB near your starting towns. When MoS, you take them in one day.
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