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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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DoR Modder
posted May 27, 2020 10:12 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 22:13, 27 May 2020.

Sacrifice is the only spell with 2 Cs...

Could you have meant Counterstrike, if you were speaking about Air Magic (since K could be considered a C)? There's also Precision, good for factions like Tower, or Air Shield, against shooters (but these are totally situational).
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Rimgrabber
Rimgrabber


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Voice in Gelu's Head
posted May 27, 2020 10:14 PM
Edited by Rimgrabber at 22:15, 27 May 2020.

I have a list of all the Air spells pulled up here and none of them have 2 C's so either you're making fun of us or you know something I don't. I'm inclined to suspect the former.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted May 27, 2020 10:15 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 22:16, 27 May 2020.

I'm sorry, I wasn't fully concentrated. I meant Counterstrike, of course.
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Rimgrabber
Rimgrabber


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Voice in Gelu's Head
posted May 27, 2020 10:19 PM

Counterstrike seems like one of those spells that sounds cool on paper that you'd never actually use but I could be wrong. So now we have Haste, Disrupting Ray, Counterstrike, Chain Lightning(Come on it IS a good spell), and for neutrals Lightning Bolt, Air Shield, and Destroy Undead. That's 7 spells. Air Magic is doing fine.

Also, side note should I make a separate thread for my HotA proposals? Last time I made a big post about faction skills and people told me to make my own thread since realistically they wouldn't be implemented.
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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posted May 27, 2020 10:20 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 22:23, 27 May 2020.

Rimgrabber said:
I have a list of all the Air spells pulled up here and none of them have 2 C's so either you're making fun of us or you know something I don't. I'm inclined to suspect the former.

It wasn't any of them.

@bloodsucker

True, but the same can be said about my examples above too. Only that Counterstrike is less situational, but works only against the AI (95%+ of the cases; I mean, who would attack more than once a unit with the spell cast on it).

@Rimgrabber

Maybe? Probably? I say you could, if you're not offended or anything.

If someone uses reverse engineering on H3 and releases the easy-to-modify version of H3, someone, or you could add those changes. It's unlikely to happen, but I heard some rumors...
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted May 27, 2020 10:25 PM

Rimgrabber said:
Chain Lightning(Come on it IS a good spell.

If playing HotA with spell research and I'm missing something that is a serious candidate to go.
I only remember to use it in guys with tactics, to destroy their war machines before my Archangels annihilate his pussy army. If battle is even slightly even I'm sure that will not be my option.
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dataved
dataved

Tavern Dweller
posted May 28, 2020 03:53 PM

[Q] How can I modify water areas with a random map generator?

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted May 28, 2020 04:19 PM

I think water areas still in development but is a wild guess based on information about bugs on water...
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dataved
dataved

Tavern Dweller
posted May 28, 2020 08:45 PM

[Bug] Negative money

See the picture, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dg8VJRF1VSWnEQmje0-4UvwtLHjFmPHd/view

I believe a cap should be implemented instead of the warning

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Romanov77
Romanov77


Known Hero
posted May 28, 2020 09:14 PM

It seems that, according to the original devs, the Badge of Courage is working as intended.

So the HOTA team could revert it back and update the description.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 28, 2020 09:17 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 21:18, 28 May 2020.

Source?
Also if that is the case, it should be a major artifact and a lot more expensive.

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Romanov77
Romanov77


Known Hero
posted May 28, 2020 11:44 PM

There's a news item on the WoG news site.

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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 29, 2020 12:12 AM

You can google-tranlate it from polish:
https://www.facebook.com/jaskiniabehemota/photos/a.202576609808802/3160939677305799/?type=3&theater
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Hourglass
Hourglass


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posted May 29, 2020 04:32 AM
Edited by Hourglass at 04:39, 29 May 2020.

Romanov77 said:
It seems that, according to the original devs, the Badge of Courage is working as intended.

So the HOTA team could revert it back and update the description.


I'm not all that convinced if the artifact should have work exactly like it does in SOD thou. I would rather belive that there had been some confusion in the designers' side, as from gameplay point of view the classic Badge is not making much sense - it's a misc treasure artifact with value of 1000, but the ability is much, much more valuable. Pendant of second sight gives only blind immunity, but it's a Major artifact, with ai value of 5000.

Here's what I think what happened:

Initially the purpose was to create an artifact that would give +1 morale and mind immunity. However, as the description was not added, miscommunication happened, and the artifact was treated just as an "+1 morale artifact." So it was listed as treasure artifact with that value.

Likely the fact that homm2 has almost identical artifact "Medal of Courage" which gives +1 morale, played a role in this confusion.

Therefore going fully back to the old makes no sense to me, as there clearly was some sort of mistake.

I would rather see a new artifact that would give mind spell immunity, and let it be valued in a right way. Or treat Badge as Major or even relic artifact with right value with the classic ability. And then perhaps create another +1 morale treasure artifact.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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posted May 29, 2020 08:02 AM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 08:21, 29 May 2020.

Now that I think about it, it's also kinda strange that the antiberserk pendant is a treasure artifact, while the antiblind pendant is a major artifact, perhaps because AI originally could'nt cast Berserk?
Maybe they should actually both be major or minor now and with cost adjusted for the antiberserk pendant.

Maybe this is it:
Antiberserk: treasure -> minor (and more expensive)
Antiblind: major -> minor
Badge of Courage: (with mind spell immunity) treasure -> major (and more expensive)

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted May 29, 2020 08:45 AM

For once,
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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


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Heroes 3 Fan
posted May 29, 2020 12:03 PM

I think Pendant of Courage would be better to give this immunity + nullify Fear of Azure Dragons.

For once i would rather power down Pendant of Courage to +2 morale +2 luck, so it doesnt replace expert leadership and expert luck.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted May 29, 2020 12:24 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 12:26, 29 May 2020.

zmudziak22 said:
nullify Fear of Azure Dragons.

If this is even possible I second the proposal. If not, plus 3 is quite important in HotA, cause artifacts can nullify even expert Luck or Leadership, so no.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 29, 2020 12:55 PM

Yeah Pendant of Courage is also a little too much, it's essentially 2 expert skills in one artifact. +2 morale and luck would be more reasonable.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted May 29, 2020 01:07 PM

I thought you shared my view that there are too few slots for too many secondary skills... But of course you had to disagree.
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