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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 550 pages long: 1 70 140 210 280 350 420 490 ... 542 543 544 545 546 ... 550 · «PREV / NEXT»
NimoStar
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Modding the Unmoddable
posted January 10, 2024 05:11 AM

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Ok. But why can't it verify them? Maybe it has to be registered with Microsoft? And this website doesn't have https. I want to install it but I'm worried.


it doesn't verify it because HotA is based on hex edit, which is similar to hacking techniques (and it does reverse engineer H3 code so it is probably "illegal" that way)
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Ghost
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posted January 11, 2024 04:21 AM
Edited by Ghost at 04:24, 11 Jan 2024.

@bluehawk

Played a lot! Experience.. An example you beat the map, you update harder map..

At least Doom3 knew players, in there you meet funny decorations are display card, memory stick, joystick and map radar (I don't know a word).. A good metaphor!

@Phoenix4ever

Yes AI uses well.. When you built your Dungeon, and AIs want your Mana Vortex.. Only H4 AI never used Mana Vortex, but AI always building Mana Vortex..

..etc
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Phoenix4ever
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posted January 11, 2024 08:28 AM

AI never build Mana Vortex before, it must have happened in 1.7.0. I'm happy it can finally build it though.
I wonder if it can also build and use Portal of Summoning, Lighthouse etc. now...

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Ghost
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posted January 11, 2024 11:25 AM

It doesn't make sense, if PoS or Lighthouse can't build.. I'm not installing 1.7.0 yet.., so you can test 8 Castles also Dungeons..
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phoenix4ever
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posted January 11, 2024 11:42 AM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 11:43, 11 Jan 2024.

Well before 1.7.0 AI could not (or did not) build:
Castle: Brotherhood Of The Sword and Lighthouse
Dungeon: Mana Vortex and Portal Of Summoning
Inferno: Brimstone Stormclouds
Rampart: Fountain Of Fortune
Stronghold: Freelancer's Guild
Cove: Grotto and Thieves Guild
Factory: I am not sure.

Some of those buildings are mostly related to castle defense, so AI maybe would'nt benefit much from it, but at least Mana Vortex, Portal of Summoning and Lighthouse would also be useful to AI.
But I will test it myself today.

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Ghost
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posted January 11, 2024 11:49 AM


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Ghost
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posted January 12, 2024 09:14 PM
Edited by Ghost at 23:54, 12 Jan 2024.

Yea JoshM.. I downloaded HotA 1.7 from torrent, it said trojan virus.. Now's in quarantine by antivirus F-Secure Finnish program(me).. Ok now's install HotA.. It after full virus check..

EDIT

Installed HotA 1.7, so first I play HotA, when I know Factory enough, it after I update Magician, Warrior and Master (MWM) to only maps4heroes.. I strongly recommend you play MWM.. I will tell you here, when MWM is in maps4heroes..

Phoenix!

I hope you play MWM (HotA 1.7.0), thus you get know me.. And you send your islands to maps4heroes If ok..

EDIT

False alarm! F-Secure showed that the address is Torrent. Now removed no problem
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ldgrinn
ldgrinn

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posted January 13, 2024 12:23 AM

This 1.7 ver did something when Heroes level up and roll skills.


I used to be able to build a proper hero before in 75% of the games with Logistics, offense, defense and 3 magix


Now I do not roll ANYTHING useful in over 50 attempts.


Ergh, edits incoming, I will have to self balance this.

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evildustructor
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posted January 13, 2024 02:57 AM

thx for the great work guys, always a pleasure playing this true successor to the game <3 enjoying basically every part of the changes
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Cydfrey
Cydfrey

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posted January 13, 2024 08:54 AM

Is it possible to tweak the general gameplay settings like enable/disable Spell research etc. when creating random maps (without having to modify each template)?

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Ghost
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Therefore I am
posted January 14, 2024 04:25 PM

@Phoenix4ever

Yes AI built Mana Vortex! And other I don't know yet..

First time I'm playing 1.7.0.. My "main" hero Gundula has 16/16/12/20 with Wisdom, Offense, Air, Archery, Scholar, Earth, Logistics and Water, and then troops are 153 O. Chieftains, 94 O. Magi, 3 Giants, 66 Thunderbirds, 15 Angels, 23 A. Behemoths and 54 C. Kings.. Random Giant map and 4m 1w 6d now.. An odd easy-level AIs compare strong, hardcore AIs in the WoG/ERA.. Fun AI challenged me.. When AI ran me, but I said ok.. Yea 3-7lvl troops, because I got 6-7lvl dwellings, and Torso artifact.. My game philosopher and style never changed in HotA.. Opening game said dwellings, so strong.. I think that map is done in the 5-6 months.. I've View Air, TP, and very rich.. Hmm I say the game is fun.. I update my MWM before I played Giant map.. So MWM gets banks, HotA creatures, some HotA objects and also artifacts.. An original back too, an example of Lighthouse to landscape where aren't water.. Stronger Avenger, etc But MWM never ready, but yes MWM2.. MWM must call MWM0.. Ok one yet, you don't like surely, I don't use a Mass Slow yet Ok
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Ghost
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posted January 14, 2024 06:33 PM

Ok one opponent yet, and in the 5 months.. Saved! Now I opened relic editor.. Where is evil.. But mapeditor finds many objects.. I take a peace and time.. But I know Factory can't appear in map.. Special tuned.. Even if I've not tested.. Maybe Cove or Conflux.. First coffee, and then decorative objects to map, etc Can't wait the map is done? Yea map never ready, but I hope so.. Earlier map is made poorly.. I forgot many things or I thought only Cove.. Ok thanks for 1.7!
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Ghost
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posted January 14, 2024 11:14 PM

Has AI lost power?

Ok! MWM can't add more something.. I test AIs with Skyship, because I can't find cheat codes.. Soon I send to maps4heroes.. Did I forget something? I check map again..
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FdgK
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posted January 15, 2024 10:22 AM

JoshM said:
I'm beginning to think that this is a false alarm. And that Windows Security may be over reacting to something in the file that is not malicious at all.



Yes, I think it gives a false alarm but I got curious yesterday because all of a sudden also my antivirus software quarantined the campaign editor exe, so I ran it through VirusTotal and it got 23/69 warnings with most of the "big name" antivirus softwares flagging it as a trojan/ransomeware/general malicious software. Curious that it is specifically the campaign editor and not the rest of the mod files. I wonder if that’s the case because it is the only new executable and therefore due to heuristics not yet whitelisted.

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NimoStar
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posted January 15, 2024 12:20 PM

Normal new .exe, even if you just compiled them, don't give any warning.

Again, this (assuming no foul play on the part of the hota team) is probably related to the use of hacking techniques instead of actual programming. Some of which are considered dangerous, such as unprotected long byte jumps and the possible use of unsafe RAM overwriting methods (such as runtime replacing of execution code within memory).
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Ghost
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posted January 15, 2024 01:09 PM

Yes my F-Secure checked on HotA, its a clean..

Ok updated MWM (HotA) has arrived in maps4heroes.. Download here Magician, Warrior and Master

Thanks you, HotA crew..
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posted January 15, 2024 01:37 PM
Edited by AlexSpl at 13:52, 15 Jan 2024.

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Normal new .exe, even if you just compiled them, don't give any warning.

Actually you will see the infamous "Windows protected your PC" message by SmartScreen, if the file was downloaded from the Internet. I suppose it checks "a reputation" of a file. If the file is brand new and has an unknown signature, most of not-so-good antiviruses (usually they are free) will fail to detect, if it contains viruses or not (because of poor or even absent scanning engine). In such a case an anti-virus prefers to play safe - just in case - and blocks a suspicious file.

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FdgK
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posted January 15, 2024 02:38 PM

NimoStar said:
Normal new .exe, even if you just compiled them, don't give any warning.

Again, this (assuming no foul play on the part of the hota team) is probably related to the use of hacking techniques instead of actual programming. Some of which are considered dangerous, such as unprotected long byte jumps and the possible use of unsafe RAM overwriting methods (such as runtime replacing of execution code within memory).



What I meant was that I guess that it only flags the campaign editor and not the other files because this is the only new one and therefore has not been whitelisted by AV software, yet. Because going by the logic of programs created by using hacking techniques are seen as potentially dangerous (like you correctly stated) also all the other HotA files should be treated in the same way by AV; but they aren’t.


AlexSpl said:
If the file is brand new and has an unknown signature, most of not-so-good antiviruses (usually they are free) will fail to detect, if it contains viruses or not (because of poor or even absent scanning engine). In such a case an anti-virus prefers to play safe - just in case - and blocks a suspicious file.



Yes, I guess that’s true, only that in this case also a lot of bigger and widely used paid for AVs (like BitDefender, Malwarebytes, McAfee, Symantec, Norton) marked it as dangerous. At least, that’s what VirusTotal said.


All that being said, I don’t think it is malicious. I just wanted to try to clear up a point that new users might look for when wanting to try out the mod.
Maybe in a couple of weeks the AVs won’t see it as a potential risk anymore due to whitelisting and treat it like all the other HotA files. I think I can recall that in the past, also other HotA and HD+ mod files were marked as threats which then changed after a while, but my memory might be faulty there.

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posted January 15, 2024 06:11 PM

Ghost said:

Ok updated MWM (HotA) has arrived in maps4heroes.. Download here Magician, Warrior and Master

Thanks you, HotA crew..


Ghost what's your favorite map that you've made
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Ghost
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posted January 15, 2024 07:58 PM

yogi said:
Magician, Warrior and Ghost what's your favorite map that you've made


MWM 1-2.. and small MWM parts.. An example Moth Song where is Avenger.. I built serial stories, now I don't make for long time.. I moved to WoG/ERA and another stories, etc I will remove them.. First I give other can download enjoyably.. When no download increased.. And MWM world maps are staying, other non-MWM maps are removing.. Remember MWM 1 never ready, but MWM 2 is a decent and ready.. Ok you can reach Magician, Warrior and yogi too.. Description asked who? I'm not one god.. Welcome to our gods.. Hmm this is new fact thus I kept my signature yet.. Even if I meant MWM 2 lol..
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