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posted July 28, 2020 06:58 AM |
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I'm perfectly fine. I find it laughable that you guys think opening fire on someone just driving their vehicle, beating up the elderly, burning down buildings and killing people is not only justified or decent behavior, but also somehow related to one man in the white house. And you think i need help. Get real. The entire left has lost their marbles. And, to reiterate, i'm not right wing, but a right-leaning centrist.
You all need medication. Seriously. When you point at sane, centered people talking about a crazy world, and call THEM crazy, it is time you did some self-evaluating.
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posted July 28, 2020 07:22 AM |
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fred79 said:
i'm a right-leaning centrist.
so yeah you are a Democrat then, thus why did I catch you taking an impressive elephant dump on that picture of Killary the other day lol
is it like when the school boys pick on the girls they like just to hurt themselves(/further destroy their lives and healthcare), I have not tried that on Nicola Sturgeon yet because my girlfriend called first dibs on her lol
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posted July 29, 2020 05:01 AM |
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posted July 29, 2020 07:02 AM |
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If that's referring to the video posted on twitter, it was created by someone else, and tweeted by someone else. Trump re-tweeted it for whatever reason, and his retweet was removed. Because free speech be damned. Then, the leftist media act like it was all Trump. Again. I would have left that press briefing, too. The media are scum.
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posted July 29, 2020 08:05 AM |
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posted July 29, 2020 10:05 AM |
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I do my best to stay informed. I'd post the tweet screenshot but i'm on my phone.
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posted July 29, 2020 10:15 AM |
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If you do your best to be informed you might want to hear what the president said in the actual press conference. Starting at a few seconds after 15:00 the journo asks about the "witch doctor" and Trump's tweet - and Trump answers.
Also fake?
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posted July 29, 2020 11:55 AM |
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Before i even bother to watch a video based on what Trump says, and not his actions(which matter much more than what ANYONE in politics SAY), i want to ask you: why do you think all the comments are negative?
This one in particular, is a clue: "i've read a lot of comments on social media, and i highly doubt if he will be re-elected."
After you answer that, i want you to watch this video, regarding the guy running against him.
Because despite anything Trump says, biden is who he's up against. Show me some videos of biden, besides the one i'm linking here. You want to attack someone for what they say, you go ahead and try to defend the leftist senile pedophile.
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posted July 29, 2020 12:11 PM |
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I linked you to the press conference where he confirmed the re-tweet and the identity of the tweeter, who is a witch doctor, if you can even call it that.
Which gives (or should give, at least) you a clue why all the comments are negative; it (he) IS actually that bad. Not that it would be a surprise.
And now you come with an utterly ridiculous claim about Biden? Don't you think, if there was the slightest chance to smear him with that Trump and his cronies would be all over him?
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posted July 29, 2020 12:24 PM |
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Ridiculous claim, huh? Obviously, you didn't watch the video.
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posted July 29, 2020 01:02 PM |
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I did. I repeat - don't you think Trump and his cronies would be all over Biden if they shared your righteous zeal?
The smear campaign worked against Clinton - and now the US pay the price for it. Your current president isn't fit for the job, and has never been. That's the fact, and it's a fact that has seriously hurt your country and thereatens to hurt it even more. There are still nearly 6 months until his term ends, 6 months a lot more damage is a real and ugly possibility.
Biden and that video is as uninteresting as it gets, because it doesn't change anything about Trump's desolate presidential performance. If Biden really was a child molester - if there was even the slightest chance to smear him with that - enough people would have been on him like fleas over a dod turd, his former Democrat rivals leading the charge months ago. This is all just smoke and mirrors - again - to divert from the facts, not more.
But I guess, you think this is all part of a gigantic conspiracy of the left and of course the media to damage the Holy Trump and to cover up that he's a demon worshipper and eats children after he gropes them.
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posted July 29, 2020 03:21 PM |
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I have to say it's not the first time I saw this video and the first one came from the left. But at least that is not his own daughter, so point for Biden.
Now, I bet if it was Bernie in the footage, the left establishment media would be smearing to this day...
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Focusing on Trump like he's actually ruling the US like an almighty dictator is childish. He's a clown who could be fairly repulsive, a complete bigot and all that but he's nothing more than the front cover of a book which surprisingly few people, intelligent or otherwise, could be bothered to read. It doesn't help that a big part of that book is written in ciphers which are unintelligible for people outside the government. Go back in time a little bit, check some stuff (not even too much) and it turns out it literally doesn't matter which party is in the White House when it comes to big issues. Bush's administration introduced borderline fascist laws for internal surveillance and Obama did what? He expanded upon them. Who's the good guy and who's the bad one? Amazingly enough, a lot of people still seem to think that if Trump is personally replaced by somebody else, things will get better just because of that - which, using the analogy above, would mean you think that if you change the front cover of the book, you'll also change the content. Yeah...
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posted July 29, 2020 03:59 PM |
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@Zeno
Yes, I do believe things would be better (not perfect, but better) if somebody else was in office.
Tens of millions of people view the president as an icon/hero, so when he posts and endorses certain things against the words of doctors and health experts (such as Dr Fauci), then that is damaging on a wide scale. It also implicitly encourages such behavior to be mimicked by governors within his party, who play a big role in managing COVID in their states. It isn't coincidental that Massachusetts is doing drastically better with the virus than Florida. Some of it might be cultural or because the virus penetrated into nursing homes early on, where mortality rates are very high, but the state policies have been very different and that means different outcomes
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posted July 29, 2020 04:03 PM |
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It's not that simple. We don't live in a world where things are either black or white. Things are grey. We can never hope that things become white - instead, all we do is striving for lighter shades of grey, and often a lighter shade of grey here comes with a darker shade there.
The president is the most important public figure and is supposed to give an example. To say that this one gives a bad example would be an understatement.
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posted July 29, 2020 04:17 PM |
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That's not the point. What you're saying is that anybody would be better than Trump. That's what the mainstream propaganda trend has been for years in many countries - not what your party offers but how bad the other party is. When the "better" party comes to power and fails to do even half of the things it promised (assuming it ever intended to fulfill them), it of course blames the "worse" party for the terrible legacy. And the circle closes. At the same time, behind the scenes the real events happen and they may not be as antagonistic as it seems on the surface - or much more antagonistic, depending on the issue. You have fundamental problems in the US, you can't resolve them with something as shallow as change the face - or rather the mask - of the government. Biden isn't promising anything in that regard, as isn't Trump - what I see from both sides is a deliberate desire for a clash which could very well end up quite bloody. You can also read it like this - neither of them cares about you, nor do the people behind them.
By the way, the COVID-handling will be properly evaluated after years, probably many years, because at the moment almost everything written about it in the mass media is propaganda.
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posted July 29, 2020 04:23 PM |
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You're opening multiple cans of worms at once. I'm okay with talking about all of those other things you mentioned but that isn't what I was talking about just now.
I'm not talking about fixing every problem in the universe. The president is giving bad advice and being a bad example related to COVID.
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posted July 29, 2020 05:24 PM |
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And there is a difference between being a bit better or worse and being ouright bad.
This isn't about making the US a paradise. and it's not about points you make or see. It's about a president being bad for the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world, which is be proxy bad for the rest of the world as well, as we can already see.
And there is a lot known about covid now, and one really disturbing aspect are the long-term health consequences of for infected. Being healed isn't the same thing as being healthy as before, as is showing now. It won't take long until you'll have 5 million infected in the US alone, and besides the deaths there will be a lot people left with a damaged heart or kidneys and other pretty bad stuff.
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I don't want to transfer the COVID argument here because it's certainly not a US topic any more than it is for any other country. The healthcare in general is vastly more complex thing than counting how many people have died or gotten sick for given time according to the media reports and frankly, almost none of the COVID arguments - including the Trump-related ones - are about health.
OK, let's assume for a moment that the elections in November are over and Biden is elected. What will change significantly by this move only? Try not to answer with slogans, rather with something which is substantial for the US and the non-US citizens.
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posted July 29, 2020 09:26 PM |
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Not giving false medical information
Not regularly making attacks on Twitter against the press or individuals. Behaving more like a president
Universal healthcare
Not vetoing gun control legislation
Paris Accord.
Iran deal
Military reduction
Erasing Trump-era tax breaks for elites.
Just a few quick items off the top of my head, typed on my phone. Not at all exhaustive. Even if half of them don't happen because of various obstacles, that would still be a lot of positive change that by default benefits non-Americans as well. Having 1/4th of the world economy and the world's most lethal military headed by an unstable person that listens to conspiracy theories on the internet is not safe. It is the opposite of safe.
Biden is low on my list among the Democratic candidates. Among the moderates, Buttigieg is like Biden except not mentally declining. Andrew Yang would have been very good for curbing corruption in big tech and with starting UBI but the American public is too primitive to ever elect him. We are probably going to need to start genetically engineering ourselves at some point in the not-so distant future if we don't want to go extinct or destroy most of ourselves and the world in general. Humanitarian and compassionate eugenics that respect's human life and human welfare. People are simply too stupid right now (I include myself) to handle life's many challenges in the modern world, and it is not our fault. We never evolved to handle this kind of world. It is all too much stimulation and too many variables happening all at once.
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