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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 06, 2015 08:29 PM |
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There is no reason to use a boobplate anywhere, ever. Boobplates are pure immature, inexcusable garbage and has no place anywhere except possibly parade armour (and even that's heavily stretching it). Just follow the example of the guardian: the best creature design in not only the game, but the franchise as a whole. It's functional, good looking, personal (face!) and not without some extra flair but not enough to make the entire thing ridiculous. What's wrong with just making everything follow those simple guidelines?
sorry, went on a bit of a rant there...
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 06, 2015 08:40 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
There is no reason to use a boobplate anywhere, ever. Boobplates are pure immature, inexcusable garbage and has no place anywhere except possibly parade armour (and even that's heavily stretching it). Just follow the example of the guardian: the best creature design in not only the game, but the franchise as a whole. It's functional, good looking, personal (face!) and not without some extra flair but not enough to make the entire thing ridiculous. What's wrong with just making everything follow those simple guidelines?
sorry, went on a bit of a rant there...
Oh come on man.. give us something to look at :-P
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 06, 2015 08:46 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Oh come on man.. give us something to look at :-P
Here you go <3
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Neraus
Promising
Legendary Hero
Pain relief cream seller
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posted August 06, 2015 08:48 PM |
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I think boobplate can work...
Realistically speaking they are a mess, but seriously, in fantasy games we're able to kill heavily armoured soldiers by slashing them with swords! Without the blade breaking! Or even worse, with bare fists!
So, boob plates could theoretically stay, it gives a more fantasy flavour I think, the only problem I have is with Chain Bikinis, for obvious reasons...
If you don't want boob plates for realism's sake, drop swordsmen altogether, unless they're half-swording knights...
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Noli offendere Patriam Agathae quia ultrix iniuriarum est.
ANTUDO
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 06, 2015 08:48 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
Here you go <3
Love you man! Haven't seen it in some time, time to cause nightmares to some of my friends.. Saprkle party, Sparkle party!
Here is to pay you back. I know you'll love it
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 06, 2015 08:49 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
It's a shame that they even do better townscreens than ubi 
I disagree. While Ubisoft's Town Screens lack many things, they present cities overall and you can spot any building (sometimes easier, sometimes not).
This picture not only don't show us whole city, it's hard to say difference between buildings (they are too crowded) and least but not last, it has many less building then Heroes town screens.
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 06, 2015 08:58 PM |
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Avonu said:
LizardWarrior said:
It's a shame that they even do better townscreens than ubi
I disagree. While Ubisoft's Town Screens lack many things, they present cities overall and you can spot any building (sometimes easier, sometimes not).
This picture not only don't show us whole city, it's hard to say difference between buildings (they are too crowded) and least but not last, it has many less building then Heroes town screens.
Are you kidding me? It's ten times easier to distinguish buildings in this town screen than it is in the mess that is any of the H7 screens, possibly save Academy, where the fact that each building has its own island sort of helps you. Yes, there are more buildings in the Heroes 7 town screens, and while that serves as half of an excuse, that's also half of the problem.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 06, 2015 08:58 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 21:00, 06 Aug 2015.
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Oh wow, another generic "elven army". How nice... At least shades of purple are toned down a bit, and the female ones don't look like nymphomaniacs (like in H5)...
I see their taking the D&D Dark Elf route (pale, purple-ish skin). One can even take them for vampires...
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 06, 2015 09:05 PM |
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alcibiades said:
Are you kidding me? It's ten times easier to distinguish buildings in this town screen than it is in the mess that is any of the H7 screens, possibly save Academy, where the fact that each building has its own island sort of helps you. Yes, there are more buildings in the Heroes 7 town screens, and while that serves as half of an excuse, that's also half of the problem.
Here is the same mess, gameplay wise.
One building (or tree) stands in front of another, eclipsing it. It's not a problem with few of them but when you have much more in city, you won't see any building from the background. Just image what would you see, if this city has city walls.
That is why Heroes town screens also have angle perspective.
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted August 06, 2015 09:24 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
There is no reason to use a boobplate anywhere, ever. Boobplates are pure immature, inexcusable garbage and has no place anywhere except possibly parade armour (and even that's heavily stretching it). Just follow the example of the guardian: the best creature design in not only the game, but the franchise as a whole. It's functional, good looking, personal (face!) and not without some extra flair but not enough to make the entire thing ridiculous. What's wrong with just making everything follow those simple guidelines?
sorry, went on a bit of a rant there...
+500 :3
kiryu133 said:
Here you go <3
Perfection xD
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted August 06, 2015 09:41 PM |
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Since maybe I deleted too much things in the first version, here's another presentation where I deleted less polygons, the design looks fairly similar. Now let's play a a game, what things I deleted?
Before: 10.7k poly
After: 8.1k poly
Difference: 2.6k poly
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icefield
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 06, 2015 09:45 PM |
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In a fantasy game, realism is not an issue. But it is a matter of art style, and to me, like many others, less would be more. In terms of armor decoration. Parade uniforms are eye candy at first sight, but if you play the game for hours, you have seen it and it rather counteracts the immersion. Detail should be in the landscape since this changes during the game and, of course, in gameplay itself.
That said, decoration and flamboyant colors do make sense for magical beings and spirits. But there should only be a few of them.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 06, 2015 09:56 PM |
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icefield said:
In a fantasy game, realism is not an issue. But it is a matter of art style, and to me, like many others, less would be more. In terms of armor decoration. Parade uniforms are eye candy at first sight, but if you play the game for hours, you have seen it and it rather counteracts the immersion. Detail should be in the landscape since this changes during the game and, of course, in gameplay itself.
That said, decoration and flamboyant colors do make sense for magical beings and spirits. But there should only be a few of them.
Well put. 
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted August 06, 2015 09:59 PM |
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Why everyone ignores the #1 motif I posted those? I didn't do that to improve the models, I did that from a technical standpoints. These are exactly the ubi models, both of them, just that I only deleted things instead of modifying/adding. Can we please focus on this aspect? The first time I posted that someone had gone through a raging rampage and derailed 2 pages from the main aspect why I'm posting this. Thank you very much.
It may suck or be good, but that's not the point. Please acknowledge what I'm trying to say.
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icefield
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 06, 2015 10:09 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
Why everyone ignores the #1 motif I posted those? I didn't do that to improve the models, I did that from a technical standpoints. These are exactly the ubi models, both of them, just that I only deleted things instead of modifying/adding. Can we please focus on this aspect? The first time I posted that someone had gone through a raging rampage and derailed 2 pages from the main aspect why I'm posting this. Thank you very much.
It may suck or be good, but that's not the point. Please acknowledge what I'm trying to say.
If better look coincides with better efficiency, that's added value. I would appreciate such a reduction.
That particular figure wasn't too bad in the first place, there are much worse examples of overdecoration in the lineups IMO where you probably could achieve better design together with a 50% poly reduction ...
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 06, 2015 10:12 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
Why everyone ignores the #1 motif I posted those? I didn't do that to improve the models, I did that from a technical standpoints. These are exactly the ubi models, both of them, just that I only deleted things instead of modifying/adding. Can we please focus on this aspect? The first time I posted that someone had gone through a raging rampage and derailed 2 pages from the main aspect why I'm posting this. Thank you very much.
It may suck or be good, but that's not the point. Please acknowledge what I'm trying to say.
i think there are 2 discussions going on at the same time and most aren't really talking about your changes which i think are a great way of showing how this over decorating is unnecessary both artistically and functionally.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted August 06, 2015 10:17 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
I just hope that upgraded Minotaur isn't purple...
They're not. I actually can't believe they really did such a ridiculously stupid thing in h6..
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted August 06, 2015 10:18 PM |
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That staff looks like theres a spider on it 
she looks better without the wings, where can I download you mod Lizard ? 
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted August 06, 2015 10:21 PM |
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Zeki said:
Pawek_13 said:
I just hope that upgraded Minotaur isn't purple...
They're not. I actually can't believe they really did such a ridiculously stupid thing in h6..
That's a very positive piece of information.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 06, 2015 10:24 PM |
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Zeki said:
Pawek_13 said:
I just hope that upgraded Minotaur isn't purple...
They're not. I actually can't believe they really did such a ridiculously stupid thing in h6..
And the Manticore. The upgraded Manticore was also purple!
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