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verriker
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Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 07, 2015 02:47 PM |
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Avonu said:
They supposed to grown from Faceless blood and to be made from Shadowsteel... shadowsteel, which according to legends, is made of Faceless blood. 
can someone who gives a crap about Ashan list all the made up minerals of that world and what they do, I have such a bad headache trying to keep track of this garbage and long for the days of plain and simple mercury, sulfur, crystal and gems lol
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 07, 2015 02:53 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 15:01, 07 Aug 2015.
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verriker said:
can someone who gives a crap about Ashan list all the made up minerals of that world and what they do, I have such a bad headache trying to keep track of this garbage and long for the days of plain and simple mercury, sulfur, crystal and gems lol
Shadowsteel - Faceless' blood
Flamegold - used by Dwarves
Starsilver - used by Irollan Elves
Dragonblood Crystals - at least 8 variations (one per Dragon God)
Moonsilk - used by Necromacers
Moonsilk Crystals - Moonsilk crystalizied during Full Moon. 
Dragonsteel - used by Bloodsmiths from Hammer Fall (Dragonblood + steel)
EDIT:
Mercury - was in MMX
Sulfur - was in MMX
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 02:54 PM |
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@sarah
Pretty much my exact thoughts. Dungeon has suffered a major blow from Ubisoft 
I'm especially pissed cause this mess makes sylvan actually look good. And what a waste of a great looking hydra 
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properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted August 07, 2015 02:57 PM |
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Really liking the visuals of the elite line up. The strider/soulless is stunning. Its great that they are going the more monstrous/horror-path with dungeon to make it more unique visually. It also makes them feel more sinister. The new colourscheme is really nice, except the grey troglodyteshark and the minotaur. Oh well, at least it was grey originally (H1). Its going to be interesting to see the 3D-models and some gameplay later on.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 07, 2015 02:58 PM |
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Edited by kiryu133 at 15:27, 07 Aug 2015.
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Avonu said:
Shadowsteel - Faceless' blood
Flamegold - used by Dwarves
Starsilver - used by Irollan Elves
Dragonblood Crystals - at least 8 variations (one per Dragon God)
Moonsilk - used by Necromacers
Moonsilk Crystals - Moonsilk crystalizied during Full Moon.
Dragonsteel - used by Bloodsmiths from Hammer Fall (Dragonblood + steel)
This is the primary example of how snowing stupid Ashan is ATM 
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 07, 2015 02:59 PM |
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Alien troglodyte? Out-of-world soulless? Units having sci-fi elements?
This is a desperate call for Forge.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 07, 2015 02:59 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 15:03, 07 Aug 2015.
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Oh, I forgot. Mercury, Sulfur and Gems are in Ashan too... just we won't see them in Heroes 7 as game resources.
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 03:07 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
What have they done to my dungeon 
Im am not happy at all.....
Assassin
Horrible... looks like he works in a circus... the upgrades knives are dumb and why doesnt he have a shirt on and the cape is... just so totally lame...
Stalker
I accept her or maybe its just the dynamic pose that makes her cool... the upgrades cape is too raggedy
Troglodyte
Basic version is nice. Could have bigger hands and claws to actually dig around more effectively. Upgrade is boring and there is something weird going on in the back of his head.
Medusa
Nothing bad to say about her. Looks nice. Hair is a bit yuck and the staff seems too heavy... it should be slimmer. But overall decent.
Soulless
Here we go..... I hate him He is not scary at all. Just really annoying! Like a stupid mime with hes invisible walls. He doesnt fit the line up at all. I cant believe they created something like that in the first place. I am so frustrated at the moment.... I hate him! I want my Manticore!!
Minotaur
Looks good. Thank god they didnt mess him up.
Overall conclusion:
...so bad.... my enthusiasm towards H7 has suffered a major hit
If there would be up vote button I would already hit it. I mostly agree with what you say, minotaur, medusa, troglodyt are nice, but elves + that freaking construct ! is ruining it 
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properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted August 07, 2015 03:09 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Alien troglodyte? Out-of-world soulless? Units having sci-fi elements?
This is a desperate call for Forge.
Yes, I thought of this to. Especially the strider/soulless has this bio-robotic feel to it. Magically fueld. Perhaps its the beginning of a "tech"-inspired war "under the mountain", against the warmachine-heavy dwarves  . I personally wouldnt mind that though, I like the mix of tech and magic if done right.
When looking at the soulless again it sort of strikes me as something that would attack you in the Phantasy Star series for SEGA (at least parts 1-4). Alot of freaky bio-robotics going on there, yes sir.
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 03:17 PM |
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properkheldar said:
EnergyZ said:
Alien troglodyte? Out-of-world soulless? Units having sci-fi elements?
This is a desperate call for Forge.
Yes, I thought of this to. Especially the strider/soulless has this bio-robotic feel to it. Magically fueld. Perhaps its the beginning of a "tech"-inspired war "under the mountain", against the warmachine-heavy dwarves . I personally wouldnt mind that though, I like the mix of tech and magic if done right.
I like tech and fantasy combos too (love the xenoblade games) but they aren't exactly pulling it off in this case. Imo of course.
Too many humanoids in this dungeon. It used to just be the Minotaur and the gargoyle (sorta) and now look at it 
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted August 07, 2015 03:38 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
Avonu said:
Shadowsteel - Faceless' blood
Flamegold - used by Dwarves
Starsilver - used by Irollan Elves
Dragonblood Crystals - at least 8 variations (one per Dragon God)
Moonsilk - used by Necromacers
Moonsilk Crystals - Moonsilk crystalizied during Full Moon.
Dragonsteel - used by Bloodsmiths from Hammer Fall (Dragonblood + steel)
This is the primary example of how snowing stupid Ashan is ATM
Well, only now did they make it this 'stupid' then, because in H5 there were the classic resources. Wood, Ore, Mercury, Gems, Crystals, and Gold. H6 only reformed Crystals into Dragonblood Crystals and scraped Mercury and Gems from the list. In H7, they throw in a lot of fancy names and new resource types, although Shadowsteel did feature in Raelag's campaign (but only as a quest item).
But that's why you emphasize the ATM, probably .
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 03:45 PM |
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Loving the new color scheme. The Strider looks cool but the position it has in the artwork makes it look so silly
EnergyZ said:
Hm. Strange creatures.
Doesn't seem medusa is directly copied from H6... feels they at least made new model, but based it off from pearl priestess.
Nah it's gonna be the pearl priestess model with a different staff and maybe some minor modifications at best. They have the same dresses even (tube top for basic, bra for upgraded)
but the coral priestess had sweet models so idc
The_green_drag said:
Suddenly a teleporting unicorn sounds kinda appealing
The_green_drag said:
Suddenly a teleporting unicorn sounds kinda appealing
Not really.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 07, 2015 03:49 PM |
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The red color in the upgrads just screams SOULSCAR to me.. We have demons and a hint to them in the minos footbio.. so My 2 cents. :-P
Edit:
BTW wasn't the upgraded mino in MaM X as one of the bosses?
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 03:53 PM |
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Medusa on the artwork looks way more bulkier than Coral Priestess which is very slim, IMO.
Also her tail seems much longer. I know it's only artwork but I still hope her in-game model will look like there.
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sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted August 07, 2015 04:10 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Edit:
BTW wasn't the upgraded mino in MaM X as one of the bosses?
Yep, called the Butcher. He was guarding one of the Elemental shards in the sewers IIRC. And he was badass, that I remember for sure. ^^
There was also an albino minotaur somewhere in the wilderness.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 04:11 PM |
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At this point one would expect you to not judge from the drawn artwork too much but apparently it's too much.
At best they're gonna change their standing anim so they dont look exactly the same.
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 04:17 PM |
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If they are going to use the same model their pose will be also the same. Only colouring, staff and some minor details will most probably be different. Even attack animation will be the same except it won't be lightning but some kind of dark magic energy.
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 04:23 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Prime school was shown before and did not contain that.
I know, it was a suggestion for a future phoenix inclusion. 
about dungeon elites:
I'm also liking the color palette. So far, elites are looking good, imo. Medusa and minos are nice. The strider kind of reminds me the aliens from "the arrival" movie. They had kind of weird walk with inverted legs.
link
/hope for good animations.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 07, 2015 04:24 PM |
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sandro400 said:
Dave_Jame said:
Edit:
BTW wasn't the upgraded mino in MaM X as one of the bosses?
Yep, called the Butcher. He was guarding one of the Elemental shards in the sewers IIRC. And he was badass, that I remember for sure. ^^
There was also an albino minotaur somewhere in the wilderness.
He was named Asterion and Butcher was Minotaur Guard.
BTW
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 07, 2015 04:26 PM |
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Hex said:
If they are going to use the same model their pose will be also the same. Only colouring, staff and some minor details will most probably be different. Even attack animation will be the same except it won't be lightning but some kind of dark magic energy.
They probably will. But they can add new anims if they want, using an old model isnt a limitating factor in that sense.
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