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kiryu133
kiryu133


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posted September 18, 2015 05:58 PM

EnergyZ said:
It is a bit strange they created Sandro as an anti-Ashanist, then put in:

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With his newfound Order of the Void, Sandro has already tried several times to put his plan into motion, although fortunately these attempts were thwarted every time.



unreliable narrator: The narrator has beliefs of his/own, meaning he/she is not biased. Jörgen does not want the dragons to disappear.
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Marzhin
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posted September 18, 2015 06:05 PM
Edited by Marzhin at 18:05, 18 Sep 2015.

kiryu133 said:
unreliable narrator


Of course, that also applies to Sandro.

Heck, that applies especially to Sandro

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verriker
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posted September 18, 2015 06:08 PM

lol, I would trust the character of Sandro more than I would ever trust anyone created by Erwin lol
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kiryu133
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posted September 18, 2015 06:11 PM
Edited by kiryu133 at 18:12, 18 Sep 2015.

Man, snow those dragons!

Nether-dudes fo' lyfe!

verriker said:
lol, I would trust the character of Sandro more than I would ever trust anyone created by Erwin lol


nah, Ashan native characters lack the depth to lie without it at least being extremely obvious
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posted September 18, 2015 06:13 PM

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That didn’t work out well. Alejandro was always debating with his teachers, always putting their faith and beliefs into question with common sense and simple logic.
That must've taken some doing, seeing that dragon gods are pretty much fact.

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Dies_Irae
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posted September 18, 2015 06:31 PM
Edited by Dies_Irae at 18:32, 18 Sep 2015.

Avirosb said:
Quote:
That didn’t work out well. Alejandro was always debating with his teachers, always putting their faith and beliefs into question with common sense and simple logic.
That must've taken some doing, seeing that dragon gods are pretty much fact.


But the 'ways' of the Dragon Gods, Elrath in particular along with his angels, can be questioned by him. The priests blindly believe in the Light, and Sandro rapidly brings them back down to earth and shows them just how faulty that belief can be. He is aware that the dragon gods exist, but that doesn't mean his arguments are invalid . If the priests can't defend their faith with words, Sandro is around the corner to use that against them. That's why they went for plan B: imprison him, punish him, torture him, like good ol' Christianity/Inquisition of old . That's the perfect proof that the priests had lost the debate. They don't care about talking anymore, they just want to break him and make him confess.
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Stevie
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posted September 18, 2015 06:37 PM
Edited by Stevie at 18:39, 18 Sep 2015.

Avirosb said:
Quote:
That didn’t work out well. Alejandro was always debating with his teachers, always putting their faith and beliefs into question with common sense and simple logic.
That must've taken some doing, seeing that dragon gods are pretty much fact.


So what of it, does Sandro put that in question? Because you seem to imply that, but the text you quoted doesn't read that way. In fact, his rebellion against the dragon gods is definitive proof to the contrary, so whatever you meant there doesn't make much sense.

#CommonSense
#SimpleLogic
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Avirosb
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posted September 18, 2015 06:40 PM

Stevie said:
So what of it, does Sandro put that in question? Because you seem to imply that, but the text you quoted doesn't read that way. In fact, his rebellion against the dragon gods is definitive proof that he does believe in their existence, so whatever you meant there doesn't make much sense.
Without being able to tell, how can you know?

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verriker
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posted September 18, 2015 06:41 PM

Dies_Irae said:
That's why they went for plan B: imprison him, punish him, torture him, like good ol' Christianity/Inquisition of old . That's the perfect proof that the priests had lost the debate. They don't care about talking anymore, they just want to break him and make him confess.


reminds me of the time Team Erwin did that to me lol
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GenyaArikado
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posted September 18, 2015 07:00 PM

Dies_Irae said:
But the 'ways' of the Dragon Gods, Elrath in particular along with his angels, can be questioned by him. The priests blindly believe in the Light, and Sandro rapidly brings them back down to earth and shows them just how faulty that belief can be. He is aware that the dragon gods exist, but that doesn't mean his arguments are invalid . If the priests can't defend their faith with words, Sandro is around the corner to use that against them. That's why they went for plan B: imprison him, punish him, torture him, like good ol' Christianity/Inquisition of old . That's the perfect proof that the priests had lost the debate. They don't care about talking anymore, they just want to break him and make him confess.


I wonder what exactly were his arguments. Because "the dragon gods arent real" couldnt be it. Maybe "the dragon gods arent actually gods" but even that is pushing it because, sure, you can depower them by stop believing in them but it requires a snowton of people forgetting about them to the point that its not feasible without magic. And following Elrath path does lead you to a nice afterlife in his side.

Sandro is basically a troll snow party ruiner.

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Kayna
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posted September 18, 2015 07:00 PM

I thought the Nether Lord was a porn star name.

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malax83
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posted September 18, 2015 07:11 PM

I have doubts about building an IA during 2 months while the game difficulty is close to the chess.  

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frostymuaddib
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育碧是白痴
posted September 18, 2015 07:20 PM

Kayna said:
I thought the Nether Lord was a porn star name.


ROFL

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Neraus
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posted September 18, 2015 08:25 PM

So he isn't the Dutch king?

Bummer...
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Dies_Irae
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posted September 18, 2015 08:41 PM

Neraus said:
So he isn't the Dutch king?

Bummer...


Lol . I don't really care much about our royal house, but I would not hesitate to follow King Sandro to the end of the Earth, and beyond.
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Madao
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posted September 20, 2015 06:25 AM

Dammit, I'm new here, but this is the biggest thread I ever. I can't even lurk it through, the strain might kill me


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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
posted September 20, 2015 10:17 AM

Madao said:
Dammit, I'm new here, but this is the biggest thread I ever. I can't even lurk it through, the strain might kill me


No need to read all this thread, however, just browse the news topic for the most important news - this thread is more like a discussion of whatever is latest news, so much of what is written in this thread is no longer relevant.
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kiryu133
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posted September 20, 2015 10:37 AM

Dude, the 200+ necro-pages are totally worth reading if you can find them.
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Madao
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posted September 20, 2015 10:51 AM

alcibiades said:
Madao said:
Dammit, I'm new here, but this is the biggest thread I ever. I can't even lurk it through, the strain might kill me


No need to read all this thread, however, just browse the news topic for the most important news - this thread is more like a discussion of whatever is latest news, so much of what is written in this thread is no longer relevant.


Nuh-huh, never intended to read all, just sayin'. I'll try to blend in.

@kiryu133 - yeah I found it around page 400, it was mostly about the Spider shizm. I can see the consequences still in various user avatars, signatures, etc.
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posted September 20, 2015 11:54 AM

Welcome to the forum
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