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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 17, 2016 12:19 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 00:22, 17 Apr 2016.
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Galaad said:
I honestly don't think it is a matter of engine. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC BH was using their own engine, with their own code, then is obvious is a nightmare for someone stranger to it to work on, especially if in unfinished state. MMH7 uses UE3, which is outdated but a good engine. Things could have obviously be done much better.
I don't think there's that big of a difference. A bad code is bad code. H7 was made on a popular engine as its base, but that does not mean the rest of the stuff wasn't written badly. Or maybe the problem lies elswhere? Maybe their QA departament simply sucks?
Galaad said:
No Heroes is not AAA title, but should be. Legendary franchise is the only reason they can permit themselves to sell it actual price, the nuance is not that benign. But they are giving it a long and painful death. About Limbic, I think they have their share of responsibility too, notably regarding gameplay elements.
Well unfortunately that's only how we would like it to be. I think that games like Heroes being considered AAA titles are things of the past. Nowadays there are other more popualar genres, MOBA's being at the top of the chain. TBS are for "nerds and boring people, todays players want fast action and a lot of fireworks"... Of course that does not mean they couldn't have made at least a decent game. Heck, even indie developers do a better job...
PS: I think "death" is too hard of a word here. Sure, H7 is dead for me, but consequentaly, good things might come from this. Fans were never this much determined to make something positive out of this mess. Maybe this will lead to some interesting stuff like that Quantomas's project for instance?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 17, 2016 01:32 PM |
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Reached second Dogwoggle map and I am now lvl 1. Is that intentional or simply annoying design?
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted April 17, 2016 02:52 PM |
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blob2 said:
Brukernavn said:
(actually, is Heroes an AAA title?)
On the World of Might @ Magic book, there is written "based on Ubisoft's best-selling franchise". Sure, it was written 5 years ago and things change quickly but it is a sad proof of how Ubi treats with famous games series.
Seeing how the patches look like and how few improvements they bring after so long time period, it weakens even my enthusiasmus.
Sure, if Limbic is going to work on the game for at least two next upcoming years, the game can finally become excellent. However it is more probable that Ubi will want to end the game development asap.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted April 17, 2016 03:48 PM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 15:48, 17 Apr 2016.
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blob2 said:
Well unfortunately that's only how we would like it to be. I think that games like Heroes being considered AAA titles are things of the past. Nowadays there are other more popualar genres, MOBA's being at the top of the chain. TBS are for "nerds and boring people, todays players want fast action and a lot of fireworks"... Of course that does not mean they couldn't have made at least a decent game. Heck, even indie developers do a better job...
PS: I think "death" is too hard of a word here. Sure, H7 is dead for me, but consequentaly, good things might come from this. Fans were never this much determined to make something positive out of this mess. Maybe this will lead to some interesting stuff like that Quantomas's project for instance?
finally someone gets it.
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Pim18
Known Hero
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posted April 17, 2016 08:47 PM |
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Regarding the AAA title discussion. Heroes 7 has the pricetag as a AAA title. Quality wise however is an entirely different story.
Please note that AAA title doesn't mean anything nowadays since there are a lot of AAA titles released that are absolutely dreadful
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Aionb
Known Hero
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posted April 17, 2016 09:07 PM |
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blob2 said:
...interesting stuff like that Quantomas's project for instance ...
In case you were wondering: Q's stuff
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A8T
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 02:44 AM |
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Elvin said:
Reached second Dogwoggle map and I am now lvl 1. Is that intentional or simply annoying design?
I had the same thing going into the 3rd Dogwoggle map. I guess time to use console to level back to 25.
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etore
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 04:39 AM |
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Edited by etore at 04:40, 18 Apr 2016.
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A8T said:
Elvin said:
Reached second Dogwoggle map and I am now lvl 1. Is that intentional or simply annoying design?
I had the same thing going into the 3rd Dogwoggle map. I guess time to use console to level back to 25.
I guess this guy had the same problem and found a workaround: steam
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 09:34 AM |
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Although i havent played the map,with the crazY xp gains you can reach level 25 in a few months..
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toannghe1997
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 18, 2016 11:06 AM |
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I just made another video with clearer explanation about Sylvan campaign's ending's flaw, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enVkzw4rLvs
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted April 18, 2016 01:36 PM |
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So what did Dogwoggle do, anyway, to be pursued by so many people?
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 02:15 PM |
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Thanks for the reports, videos and emails so far. Not good some really dumb stuff is showing up. As always i'm not someone to give political replies or suger coat issues. I will have some meetings this week with how bugs are prioritised and fixed for up coming patches and so on. Development has 100% not finished (so that's a bonus that we'll actually fix these things). As annoying as it is to encounter bugs, those of you who do report them help MASSIVELY with getting them fixed. Remember though that if I say 'thanks we've fixed that for the future' Doesn't always mean it's in the NEXT patch. This is because we have certain timelines and what not on when builds have to be sent to be tested and so on.
I'll be updating the spread sheet constantly through out the day, some things I for sure need more information on, others have been addressed or are simply not a bug. But I will note that down as I work through them.
that's what "Heart" said in the steam forums. I can't even... does he even...?
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A8T
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 03:03 PM |
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Edited by A8T at 16:26, 18 Apr 2016.
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etore said:
A8T said:
Elvin said:
Reached second Dogwoggle map and I am now lvl 1. Is that intentional or simply annoying design?
I had the same thing going into the 3rd Dogwoggle map. I guess time to use console to level back to 25.
I guess this guy had the same problem and found a workaround: steam
I guess your right 
Edit: Tired it and sadly did not work on my version 
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted April 18, 2016 03:29 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
Development has 100% not finished (so that's a bonus that we'll actually fix these things).
What does that supposed to mean? Does that even make any sense?
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Datapack
Famous Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 04:06 PM |
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Yes selling us a broken game then telling us you're gonna fix is something we should be thankful for.
snow off
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Aionb
Known Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 04:19 PM |
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Edited by Aionb at 16:22, 18 Apr 2016.
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ChrisD1 said:
I can't even... does he even...?
On another note, here is what an enthusiastic, casual player, with no connection or influence on the game at all, thinks about the new global mod.
It's obvious that from his position, as an enthusiastic, casual player, he cannot shape the game in any way, so he has to wait for modders to make him pleasant surprises. Just like you and me, I might add ... lmfao
This cannot be stressed well enough:
Datapack said:
Yes selling us a broken game then telling us you're gonna fix is something we should be thankful for.
snow off
Or maybe is just a communication problem? Again ... and again ... and again ... lmfao ... again ...
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted April 18, 2016 04:25 PM |
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for a person whose job is to represent a team of professionals and communicate with customers as clearly as humanly possible that guy just doesn't seem very cut out for the job IMO, even in terms of tripping over very basic spelling and grammar and such to create confusion, sorry no personal offence guy, but hey neither would I quit my day job to be a chef or an author if I haven't the knack lol
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted April 18, 2016 04:25 PM |
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TBH I couldn't care less about communication, looks like there has been more effort and resources put into advertising the game than actually making it.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted April 18, 2016 05:46 PM |
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PandaTar said:
What does that supposed to mean? Does that even make any sense?
I posted that before i start cursing him on the steam forums. Does he mean we should be thankful? What.??
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted April 18, 2016 05:49 PM |
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I reckon he might have misspelled something, like "the game WAS 100% done already" and not "has 100% not". Either way, no matter how different conclusions I try to wriggle from that sentence, the results stay the same. ^^
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
