|
|
agneslynd
Hired Hero
|
posted April 21, 2016 11:33 AM |
|
|
So I booted the game for the first time since release to see if all the patches made the experience more enjoyable.
[url=http://s31.postimg.org/fnt9xnnjv/l_Eb_XZED.jpg]Guess not.[/url]
Half a year later, UI doesn't work properly still.
|
|
verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 12:18 PM |
|
Edited by verriker at 12:22, 21 Apr 2016.
|
there is a new official Q&A posted on the Steam by Ubilimb Oak lol
Ubilimb Oak said:
How is possible MM Heroes VI has better graphics by far than MM Heroes VII and in my pc is faster than VII?
Graphics are subjective - the art direction is different in H7 (like in every Heroes game). H6 was also released for weaker machines, five years ago.
How is possible Heroes I-VI townscreens are better than MM Heroes VII?
Because of nostalgia (and also subjective opinion). I think that the best townscreens (as in, my favourite) were in Heroes 2, but objectively speaking they are really far worse than anything later in the series.
How is possible MM Heroes VII still goes sync of out in multiplayer with a ton of patching?
Because there are still bugs.
How is possible still are bugged some campaings?
Because there are still bugs.
How is possible still we have the same glitches than 1.0 version?
Because they haven't been managed to be reproduced in-house. Yes, I realise that this might seem as an impossible concept, but there are thousands of players and only a fraction of that size is what is called a QA department (even though they are doing it 9 to 5). Some bugs are trickier to find than others and some take time to figure out what exactly is happening even if we know how to reproduce them. This is the reality of (any) game development. With smaller teams it's obviously even more tricky 
How is possible this game of 50 euros has robotic-fool movement worse than Heroes of Might and Magic I?
Not sure what you mean by this. The AI? The AI for Heroes I was "point-and-shoot at random stack". Our AI is far from perfect, but it has been improving over time and we're still working on it.
How is possible the battles even for an amount of wood become extremly long? You can compare even with Heroes of Might and Magic 1?
There is a game speed slider which makes it comparably fast (but yes, still slower than the max speed of the 2D games). Our 3D animations are longer than simple 2D anims. Many reasons add up into an increased playtime. For me, for example, H6 feels more sluggish than H7, due to many reasons (including map design, overall combat flow and unsatisfying speed controls).
How is possible we haven't got a common spells pool at least for level 2-3 without prerequisites for learn? This is a tragic problem in Heroes of Might and Magic IV and JVC would be fixed at V (never exist thx Ubisoft for disolve NWC).
Also not sure what you mean. And AFAIK Ubisoft didn't dissolve anything, it was 3DO. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not 100% sure.
I can say you a ton more of desing and technic problems but is absurd argue of this game when all of us know this game will be RIP soon.
That is your opinion (shared by others as well, probably), yes. Personally? H7 is not my favourite instalment of the series. It is and always will be Heroes 2 
Arain brought up valid points so I wanted to give an honest answer to his questions from my side. Also, we are still working on the game and supporting it through patches, and thus still polishing it. 
As a sidenote, I love it when someone says something similar to "and this isn't even all the issues", that just means simply not knowing what more to bring up, to create the illusion that there are countless, infinite amounts of issues
If someone doesn't like the game then I'm fairly certain there is nothing any developer could do with H7 to make those people who dislike to actually like it. There is no way to convert a "hater" so to speak. We can only really make the game more enjoyable for those who are happy with it or willing to look past what they dislike. For those of you who have faith in us, thank you.
____________
|
|
EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 12:37 PM |
|
|
Ubilimb Oak said:
If someone doesn't like the game then I'm fairly certain there is nothing any developer could do with H7 to make those people who dislike to actually like it. There is no way to convert a "hater" so to speak.
Holy dang, there's a lot of bias. But this one takes the most of it.
|
|
fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 12:50 PM |
|
|
Self denial is such a beautiful thing. Give the guy some slack. He's probably drunk. I know I'd be completely plastered every day if I had to work for Ubisoft.
____________
"Now I am become Chris, the destroyer of worlds." - Robert Oppenheimer.
|
|
Pim18
Known Hero
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 01:14 PM |
|
|
|
I like how they refuse to give clear answers to actual legitimate questions and concerns
|
|
Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 02:19 PM |
|
|
Can someone please give him a few lessons in English? That Franglish is hard to read.
____________
The last Reasonable Steward of Good Game Design and a Responsible Hero of HC. - Verriker
|
|
Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 02:20 PM |
|
|
I really doubt that is going to help with how the things are going.
____________
|
|
Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 02:35 PM |
|
|
Maurice said:
Can someone please give him a few lessons in English? That Franglish is hard to read.
No wonder, because Oak isn't from France.
____________
"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
|
|
Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 02:55 PM |
|
|
The answers are not the problem, language-wise. It's the questions we should be worried about .
____________
|
|
Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 03:22 PM |
|
|
Oakwarrior said:
Then that person does not belong into the "hater" group
...
It looks to me some people don't understand all that fans wanted was a good sequel.
____________
|
|
Valen-Teen
Famous Hero
UFOlolOgist
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 03:42 PM |
|
|
Thought:
Fans of Heroes X must be fans of Heroes X.
Fans of Heroes series must be patient and thankful that developers don't forget about franchise at all.
____________
Our hopes for Heroes VIII!
|
|
EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 03:48 PM |
|
|
Valen-Teen said:
Thought:
Fans of Heroes X must be fans of Heroes X.
Fans of Heroes series must be patient and thankful that developers don't forget about franchise at all.
There are other ways to be thankful about. After all, there are Clash of Heroes and Dark Messiah games, which aren't bad. But when you get a message like the one above - I don't think it is much to be thankful about - when the last two games aren't well-received among the community.
|
|
Datapack
Famous Hero
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 05:48 PM |
|
|
Valen-Teen said:
Fans of Heroes series must be patient and thankful that developers don't forget about franchise at all.
Nah, i'd rather not have any new Heroes games at all if they are gonna keep pushing out snow like H6 and 7.
|
|
Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 06:42 PM |
|
|
Oakwarrior, we shook hands, we talked a lot in Paris, and I believe you're genuinely a great guy irl, but sometimes I feel you're not honest with us or even with yourself. Public opinion is public opinion and you can't bite the hand that feeds you, nor can you hate your own work, but can you at least not act as if we don't understand anything? It's not that it's condescending but no one buys it anyway. Seriously, I respect you as well as everyone there at Limbic and even Ubisoft, but niceties and stuff tend to be a wall to honesty. I personally do not like your AI and I think it's way overdue that it was patched and fully fixed especially since all the feedback you needed was at a few clicks distance. On the other hand I don't wanna sound uncaring because there may be serious issues with the code or who knows what else that prevent you to implement a decent AI, so I'll ask you this question - what is the biggest obstacle in making the AI of Heroes 7 good?
____________
Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
|
|
Aionb
Known Hero
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 06:44 PM |
|
|
Well, the answers provided by this self-sufficient kid to someone who paid money for his bugware do help us to understand how things got here and where they are heading.
There are bugs because there are bugs / multiplayer it's unplayable because there are bugs = it's full of bugs, tough luck, suck it up or you're a subjective hater
The sooner it hits the fan, the better, really.
|
|
Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 06:55 PM |
|
Edited by Maurice at 18:55, 21 Apr 2016.
|
Avonu said:
No wonder, because Oak isn't from France.
Ah, so his Franglish sucks, no wonder!
But in honesty, I meant the questions, which I hope weren't Oaks'.
|
|
Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 07:00 PM |
|
|
Maurice said:
Avonu said:
No wonder, because Oak isn't from France.
Ah, so his Franglish sucks, no wonder!
But in honesty, I meant the questions, which I hope weren't Oaks'.
The questions are posted above Oak's reply, and the person who wrote them, arain, is from Spain according to his/her profile . The difference between questions and answers is too big for them to come from one and the same person.
____________
|
|
blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 07:00 PM |
|
|
Sometimes I think that if the franchise "died" back when NWC went bankrupt someone might've picked it up on Kickstarter right about now. Now Ubisnow will hoard the rights to the franchise till the end of times 
|
|
EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 07:04 PM |
|
|
blob2 said:
Sometimes I think that if the franchise "died" back when NWC went bankrupt someone might've picked it up on Kickstarter right about now. Now Ubisnow will hoard the rights to the franchise till the end of times
Wouldn't Vivendi shake things up? At least to some franchises, including Might & Magic.
|
|
AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted April 21, 2016 07:21 PM |
|
|
Quote:
How is possible this game of 50 euros has robotic-fool movement worse than Heroes of Might and Magic I?
Not sure what you mean by this. The AI? The AI for Heroes I was "point-and-shoot at random stack". Our AI is far from perfect, but it has been improving over time and we're still working on it.
No, it wasn't. It's bugged, but those bugs could be easily interpeted as features, not actual bugs. I'd rather say it's simple, yet I find it, at least, consistant. Unlike H7's, which is plain stupid.
|
|
|
|
This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
