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Petiknight
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 04:57 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
I fired up heroes 6 and it looked a zillion times better!!! It s sad. And scary.Even heroes 5 looks better(besides the art style) This speaks volumes about the devs' experinece.
I just did the same to compare these games . H6 didnt crash for me, I tried the custom map made by Natalka, congrats to her Nice map, however AI stuck in the begining. Anyway H7 is the biggest disappointment for me. I tried many times, but I cannot stand it, the game is just extrem boring and looks awfull. With a good team, and better developer it could be million times better, they could really listen to the community...
I hope Heroes never dies I love the games and i hope the series will regain its former glory with better and further games, without Erwan's crazy team
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 05:31 PM |
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Actually i prefer H7 in the technical aspect. I mean it takes forever to load but once it does its fine (at least for me). With H6 i lived dreading the black screen bug
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Moritzbradtke
Known Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 05:41 PM |
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game Looks good and isnt boring either, maybe it isnt the right game for u then
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 19, 2016 06:06 PM |
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Adventure map is fine but combat leaves a lot to be desired. Nowhere near as interesting as H5 or H6.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 06:13 PM |
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Elvin said:
Adventure map is fine but combat leaves a lot to be desired. Nowhere near as interesting as H5 or H6.
How is combat nowhere as interesting as in H6? It improves in every single aspect I can think of.
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Petiknight
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 06:16 PM |
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Moritzbradtke said:
game Looks good and isnt boring either, maybe it isnt the right game for u then
Well, you are right its not for me, but seriously it looks good? Maybe in 2004, but not this year. No offense
Really how you can protect this game? Everything what UBI and Limbic did is an insult to Heroes fans. I personally felt myself betrayed as they didnt kept their promises. It was a subject of plenty of discussion. Ok I dont wanna start it again, you can read all the posts. Different people, different taste...
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Tonwen616
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 19, 2016 06:18 PM |
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Moritzbradtke said:
actually, game is enjoyable, yes, there are still Bugs but MP sometimes works really well and if u Play Scenarios or campaigns, u'll have a good time(most of the time), combat AI a lot better, skirmish adevture AI still sucks bc of Trains and weak hereos spam, one Problem campaign and Scenario maps dont always have
Yes, I agree Heroes VII is relativelly good, aside from the share buginess, that allready thankfuly was massively reduced. Still, the bugginess, allready marred the experience for many players and fans. But another problem, is the lack of a "unified astetic", for a lack of a better term.
Also, I wonder, if the Kraken neutral unit, is maybe inspired by the very similar looking Fangarm from the Horn of the Abyss fan-made expansion? Both even are powerful neutral units:
[url=http://www.hota.acidcave.net/tomb/fangram.png]http://www.hota.acidcave.net/tomb/fangram.png[/url]
Alternatelly, the Kraken would be inspired by Cthulhu directly.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 07:36 PM |
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Wanna know what annoys me? Putting Tyris instead of Sorsha. She would have fitted perfectly along the Justicars
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LucPatenaude
Famous Hero
Owning all 7 Heroes games
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posted August 19, 2016 07:50 PM |
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Latest patch just happened this morning or your afternoon in Europe.
Version 2.1-40271 is fully available for download and auto-install as of today(19th of August 2016).
Must be done via the game client of Uplay to do so. Do not know about the Steam edition, sorry.
BTW: A Solid State Drive is also available as being pre-installed permanently on some latest and very performant motherboards. Yes, it is true that they are mainly large versions of the USB counterparts. But, it is mainly used for very important files backing up purposes. In the near future, this is where your O.S. will be pre-installed and, where all Windows' standard apps & games will be stored with a minimum access to these files other than through the registered user/owner/system administrator of such PC.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 07:54 PM |
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I would like to know which aspect of H7 is more enjoyable than H5.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 19, 2016 07:57 PM |
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orc ladies not looking and acting like they're in a porno.
any ladies not looking like they're in a porno.
low bar but you'll take what you can get.
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 19, 2016 08:09 PM |
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Still has boob plates though. 
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 08:23 PM |
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Acting like they're in a porno? I must have missed the sex scenes in H5.
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etore
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 08:24 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
I would like to know which aspect of H7 is more enjoyable than H5.
If I stick restricted to the enjoyable adjective my answer is none.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 19, 2016 08:25 PM |
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Hermes said:
How is combat nowhere as interesting as in H6? It improves in every single aspect I can think of.
Slow. Lack of abilities and depth. Many duplicate spells/unit abilities. Worse combat camera. 10 sec loading. Barely a handful of useful spells. You stick to just a few and ignore all the rest.
Less exciting in general and far more predictable also.
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Map also hosted on Moddb
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted August 19, 2016 08:26 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Acting like they're in a porno? I must have missed the sex scenes in H5.
Another scrapped feature? Damn you ubi  
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"lol" -- VERRIKER VON ERWINSSEN
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 08:33 PM |
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Elvin said:
Hermes said:
How is combat nowhere as interesting as in H6? It improves in every single aspect I can think of.
Slow. Lack of abilities and depth. Many duplicate spells/unit abilities. Worse combat camera. 10 sec loading. Barely a handful of useful spells. You stick to just a few and ignore all the rest.
Less exciting in general and far more predictable also.
1. Slow - it is completely seamless in expansion, much faster then it used to be. There are animation speed settings too, and they work better.
2. Lack of abilities - I somewhat agree, but H6 had a completely opposite problem, many people on this forum including yourself slammed the sheer number of active and passive abilities.
3. Lack of depth - how so? There is flanking, better cover and warmachines, can you explain what you mean?
4. Duplicate abilities - agree, but spells are all completely different and also augmented my skills, which is really cool.
5. Worse combat camera - really? Now you can completely change the camera angle and leave it there, in direct contrast with H6.
6. Combat loads 2 sec max on my not even a top range PC on highest settings.
7. Lots of useful and diverse spells especially with new additions, and combat much less predictable. In H6 there was almost no destination between tiers, resurrection ran wild and walling in was the only viable strategy in combat for majority of factions.
Statements like this just completely confuse me.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 19, 2016 08:55 PM |
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H7 combat is slow by design. Walking, animations, everyone is taking their bloody time..
While H6 had more abilities than needed H7 has less than needed so by default..
Neither flanking, cover or wm offer particular depth. Unit gameplay is mostly bland and the above could not salvage it if they wanted.
Camera focuses too much on the outskirts, units look tinier on default camera.
2 secs is still too much.
But.. H6 is one of the lowest points of the series, trying to compete with H5 would be more meaningful.
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted August 19, 2016 09:41 PM |
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Instead of comparing lets just say the problem of battles being a bit boring has not been fixed, they just tried a different approach.
But I keep combat speed at 120% and it's not a problem for me anymore. The AI using the wait command was the most annoying and its gone now.
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Tonwen616
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 19, 2016 10:30 PM |
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Well, about combat in Heroes 7, the problem is, it's animations don't really feel right. As opposed to previous 3D Heroes, especially Heroes V, the attacks lack true weight and impact when landed.
The spells also feel less effective, which is ESPECIALLY visible with implosion, but to be fair, it looked allready less effective in Heroes VI.
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