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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 18, 2015 01:36 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
Im happy to have Tyris in the game! Really liked her in H3  Also cool that she still has that iconic helmet 
Did you notice she got a strabism?
@Pawek: Well, I recall Rakshasas in H5 could boost their initiative and Hydras were poisonous weren't they?
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted March 18, 2015 01:45 PM |
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The iconic helmet and the iconic name are the only things she has in common with her Erathian counterpart.
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 01:48 PM |
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Galaad said:
Did you notice she got a strabism?
Well she might have a slight case of strabism, but its pretty difficult to notice when she has that shining smile
That probably makes her so awesome at jousting! Having those chameleon eyes that work separately from each other. One can look forward and handle the riding and other can focus on the enemy and the lance
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 01:52 PM |
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Avirosb said:
The iconic helmet and the iconic name are the only things she has in common with her Erathian counterpart.
And her nice golden hair and her skills in horseback riding and specialty bonus for cavalry units. What else do we even need?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted March 18, 2015 01:56 PM |
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Minion said:
No dublicate abilities within the same faction please. I hope for more abilities in general, but no more than a few per creature that define them.
+1
From what they have showed so far, I find the game a bit lackluster in this regard. Not a whole lot though, they just could get some extra love.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 18, 2015 01:59 PM |
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Avirosb said:
The iconic helmet and the iconic name are the only things she has in common with her Erathian counterpart.
well hair and facial structure are about as close as they can get. do miss that determination though. she was easily the most determined motherf'er i've seen.
Galaad said:
Did you notice she got a strabism?
i don't see it 
ThatRedSarah said:
Anyways... Im happy to have Tyris in the game! Really liked her in H3 Also cool that she still has that iconic helmet
IIIIIIH!!! I LOVE IT! 
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 02:21 PM |
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just as i dreaded. generic heroes' specializations.... our heroes now are just portrais! nothing distinct, or complex, or make you want to pick a certain hero and build a strategy around him/her.
what happened to heroes 5 specializations??? ugh but yeah lets make 6 more threads about necropolis and visuals -.-
we deserve the worst from this franchise.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted March 18, 2015 02:27 PM |
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Minion said:
No dublicate abilities within the same faction please. I hope for more abilities in general, but no more than a few per creature that define them.
Exactly! This my main expectation in terms of units' abilities. this is perfectly enough.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 18, 2015 03:09 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
And her nice golden hair and her skills in horseback riding and specialty bonus for cavalry units. What else do we even need?
We need nice mechanics.
And ugly heroes. Give us ugly heroes. Kind of tired of seeing only beautiful people high and low, everyone seemingly alike as if all of them were siblings, like a big great fat Lannister family (then comes an asinine guy and states: "But Edric is different!"; Duh, no s***! A single leaf in a forest). And why, WHY don't we have nagas, elves, or whatever else different in Haven's heroes ranks? Why only humans spread like a plague over all other factions? If humans can shift their loyalty to other races and factions, why is it not happening in return? Other races - I mean, heroes - get sympathized with humans, as it should happen? Rogue heroes, or whatever.
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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gourley4p
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 03:41 PM |
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Galaad said:
Pawek_13 said:
Thank you for clarifying that and I do agree with these, especially the first one.
You don't with the second one? Remember Landsknecht and Rakshasa both has Sweeping and Disciple and Crossbowman both has Piercing shot. You ok with this?
I am very much on board with the second one. I enjoy each faction having a distinct play style. I don't want one to simply be a different skin of another.
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 03:49 PM |
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PandaTar said:
We need nice mechanics.
Well i meant "what else" concerning Tyris. She has all the features that she needs to be a proper "Tyris".
But yes you are correct. We do need nice mechanics They are the foundation for all this other aesthetic detailing. Without a solid core game the details dont really matter at all.
PandaTar said:
And ugly heroes. Give us ugly heroes. Kind of tired of seeing only beautiful people high and low, everyone seemingly alike as if all of them were siblings, like a big great fat Lannister family (then comes an asinine guy and states: "But Edric is different!"; Duh, no s***! A single leaf in a forest). And why, WHY don't we have nagas, elves, or whatever else different in Haven's heroes ranks? Why only humans spread like a plague over all other factions? If humans can shift their loyalty to other races and factions, why is it not happening in return? Other races - I mean, heroes - get sympathized with humans, as it should happen? Rogue heroes, or whatever.
We should definitely have some "normal" looking heroes too. The ones we have seen so far are kinda like from Hollywood movies or something. But i dont think Haven should have other races as heroes. Haven is a human faction and i think its nice that they have human heroes. Then again i would prefer other factions to just have heroes of their primary races too. So no humans elsewhere. In H3 there we were lots of different hero races. Minotaurs, troglodytes, orcs, goblins, demons, elves, lizardmen, gnolls and so on. That is how it should be in my opinion. No mixing of heroes and factions.
Off topic but... I see you have listed "a loyal panda" in your message signature. You should change it to "a royal panda". That might be pretty cool
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 18, 2015 03:54 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
She has all the features that she needs to be a proper "Tyris".
except the stare-down "i'ma mess you up" no back-talk expression. really miss that one 
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The_Green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 04:08 PM |
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I don't mind reused abilities, as long as they make sense on the unit and it's not shared between tiers. For example, Piercing shot and sweep is alright atm. but if blade dancer gets it then we got two melee walking elites doing the same thing
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 18, 2015 04:13 PM |
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Edited by PandaTar at 16:13, 18 Mar 2015.
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ThatRedSarah said:
Then again i would prefer other factions to just have heroes of their primary races too. So no humans elsewhere. In H3 there we were lots of different hero races. Minotaurs, troglodytes, orcs, goblins, demons, elves, lizardmen, gnolls and so on. That is how it should be in my opinion. No mixing of heroes and factions.
That's the point. If humans are elsewhere, other races should/could be too. I also prefer if humans, as being just as selfish as they are painted to be, wouldn't meddle into other business, if no one can meddle in theirs. And any potential sentient race in the ranks of any faction could have themselves represented by this and that hero, like those already mentioned by you.
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Off topic but... I see you have listed "a loyal panda" in your message signature. You should change it to "a royal panda". That might be pretty cool
Awwwnnn.  I can't ditch the loyal. But I can make do with a little tweak, if it pleases milady.
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GlaDOS – Portal 2
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 04:31 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
except the stare-down "i'ma mess you up" no back-talk expression. really miss that one
I dont think she needs that stare in the picture. I like to think that she went to the painter to get her portrait painted and wanted to look nice in it. Which is perfectly understandable because a hired painter is not very cheap so you want to get it right the first time. I dont think those are "screenshots" from an action scene I believe she can be fierce and menacing when on the battlefield, but when shes just home folding her dresses, doing normal things or getting her picture painted, she is not too serious or "i'ma mess you up"-kinda lady
She does remind me of this lady.
When she is just hanging out at home she is nice, but when its time for battle she will crack your skull, no doubt
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted March 18, 2015 05:05 PM |
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Galaad said:
Pawek_13 said:
Thank you for clarifying that and I do agree with these, especially the first one.
You don't with the second one? Remember Landsknecht and Rakshasa both has Sweeping and Disciple and Crossbowman both has Piercing shot. You ok with this?
Really, so you think it's a problem that some abilities are used twice? Frankly, that's a complete misunderstanding imo. - look how well it worked in H6 where every creature had a unique super-duper powerful special ability that catered exactly to this creature's purpose. No, quite on the other hand, I think there should be more general abilities that are spread out across many creatures - No Retaliation, Breath Attack, Sweeping Attack, No Range Penalty, etc. The point is that each creature should not have exactly one ability (and exactly one more on upgrade) but rather that each creature can have several abilities, of which some (or even most) can be generic and shared with other creatures, but so that the combination of abilities are different on the different creatures.
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EPICUSDOOMICUS
Known Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 05:20 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
She does remind me of this lady.
Indeed!!
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To die in battle is the greatest glory.
To choose to do so is the greatest honor!
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 18, 2015 06:21 PM |
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alcibiades said:
No, quite on the other hand, I think there should be more general abilities that are spread out across many creatures - No Retaliation, Breath Attack, Sweeping Attack, No Range Penalty, etc. The point is that each creature should not have exactly one ability (and exactly one more on upgrade) but rather that each creature can have several abilities, of which some (or even most) can be generic and shared with other creatures, but so that the combination of abilities are different on the different creatures.
That's quite the reason I think H4 had the exact amount of abilities and combination of those, even spamming here and there. Still, units kept unique in their fashion and there was no need for upgrades. It feels, at least for me, pointless making upgrades only to add an ability or just for show - because one has, all others must have too. That's why I still prefer things back when it was H2 - some units had upgrades, others not. Although I won't delve into the depths of balancing just now. It was merely to illustrate the idea alcibiades was referring to.
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 06:47 PM |
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I think the reason Eric and Tyris are looking happier and younger is obvious and i'm suprised no one has made the joke yet
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 18, 2015 06:52 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
I think the reason Eric and Tyris are looking happier and younger is obvious and i'm suprised no one has made the joke yet
I didn't think about it like that. two people finding love in each other? that's reason enough for them to relax i think. i'm happy for them 
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