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RMZ1989
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posted September 13, 2014 09:33 AM |
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Hotarubi said:
Alex_Yakub said: I don't understand. Marzhin said in another thread that emerald knignt will not ride lynxes, and are currently designed as mountless. Does that means they are just elves in green armour? I can't belive I'm saying this, but... that's somehow even more bland than blade dancers
LOL OMG I just read that too. They're basically Furies then, just Elites instead of Cores. In a way, it's like what Danny said, they're basically a reimagined version of blade dancers? Ugh so many variables, so many unknowns.
But regardless, a strike and return unit that doesn't fly or doesn't have a mount? I never understood how Furies could to that- run across most of the battlefield and back to the starting point on foot, wearing 9 inch stilettos. And so for the emerald Knights to be similar to that, as a walker instead of cavalry, (at this point in development) is a little uninspiring. Need more info. Or I might just throw away my vote to Sylanna's Fury huehuehuehue.
He said that current Emerald Knights aren't designed to be riders, but he will ask developers about it and he has also asked us what we would want them to ride.
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alex_yakub
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posted September 13, 2014 09:36 AM |
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RMZ1989 said:
Hotarubi said:
Alex_Yakub said: I don't understand. Marzhin said in another thread that emerald knignt will not ride lynxes, and are currently designed as mountless. Does that means they are just elves in green armour? I can't belive I'm saying this, but... that's somehow even more bland than blade dancers
LOL OMG I just read that too. They're basically Furies then, just Elites instead of Cores. In a way, it's like what Danny said, they're basically a reimagined version of blade dancers? Ugh so many variables, so many unknowns.
But regardless, a strike and return unit that doesn't fly or doesn't have a mount? I never understood how Furies could to that- run across most of the battlefield and back to the starting point on foot, wearing 9 inch stilettos. And so for the emerald Knights to be similar to that, as a walker instead of cavalry, (at this point in development) is a little uninspiring. Need more info. Or I might just throw away my vote to Sylanna's Fury huehuehuehue.
He said that current Emerald Knights aren't designed to be riders, but he will ask developers about it and he has also asked us what we would want them to ride.
That's a relief I'm all for deer riders then
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 09:39 AM |
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Hotarubi said: I might just throw away my vote to Sylanna's Fury huehuehuehue.
yes, do it! We need more votes!
I agree. The name Emerald Warrior is too bland.
They should have another name for it like Emerald Dancers or something. How about Emerald Singers?
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Pavijan
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 09:46 AM |
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Edited by Pavijan at 09:48, 13 Sep 2014.
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At first I voted for Balance (yeah, I like H2 Sorceress and H4 Preserve, so nostalgia there...) but with reminding that Phoenixes will be of H6 variety I am much less enthusiastic about them (too similar with Arcane Bird, in concept, not in color, color can be changed easily).
I also have a feeling that they will shove that H6 Thunderbird as champion in Stronghold faction.
Although Cyclops as shooter (eye-laser or rock-throwing) and Behemoth as close range killer, would be much better; but we now much they like their silly Ashan lore in which probably Behemoths don't exist, although if they wanted B. could very easily been tossed in.
I would like to know, does somebody have some information on this matter...?
So, with T-Bird being very likely possibility for champion I definitely switched to Strength. And Green Dragon being durable and walking doesn't mean it will be tank. Just a damage dealer that is not a glass cannon.
Edit : Sorry, wrong thread. Move it to Sylvan line-up, please...
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Arugaf
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 11:06 AM |
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For those who missed Academy theme on youtube.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8uiu5ddtecx2pld/AAAKF-3kgtKuB5ihMc7bYTYZa?dl=0
P.S. I voted for the balance.
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AcidDragon
Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
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posted September 13, 2014 01:21 PM |
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I'm surprised that people don't find the lack of flyers important. Maybe that's just me, but I always liked that within a faction there are usually at least two fyers (in Heroes III all the factions were like that, except for Stronghold). It allowed for different tactics within a single faction, depending on the circumstances.
To me "walkers" were always the least interesting creatures. Flyers and shooters were the "special" ones.
Right now we already have a defensive-walker Haven with probably just a sinle possible flyer. And now we will have a defensive-walker Sylvan with possibly no flyers. Add to that Stronghold (probably just a single flyer, as usual) and that will mean that half of the factions in the game will be walker factions. To me - that's boring.
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JeremiahEmo
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posted September 13, 2014 01:27 PM |
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^ we're opposites. I think flyers are (most of the time) boring.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
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posted September 13, 2014 02:01 PM |
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AcidDragon said: I'm surprised that people don't find the lack of flyers important. Maybe that's just me, but I always liked that within a faction there are usually at least two fyers (in Heroes III all the factions were like that, except for Stronghold). It allowed for different tactics within a single faction, depending on the circumstances.
To me "walkers" were always the least interesting creatures. Flyers and shooters were the "special" ones.
Right now we already have a defensive-walker Haven with probably just a sinle possible flyer. And now we will have a defensive-walker Sylvan with possibly no flyers. Add to that Stronghold (probably just a single flyer, as usual) and that will mean that half of the factions in the game will be walker factions. To me - that's boring.
Totally agree, some people doesn't realize of the problem they are making
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
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posted September 13, 2014 02:10 PM |
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meh. I'm sure we can create a bunch of strategy for a faction without flyers. Plus I think Sylvan should have no flyers. They are an earth faction. They want both feet on the ground.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 13, 2014 02:13 PM |
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Did the nagas in H6 have a problem with having no flying units?
i thinnk such a lineup upens good doors for more unique strategies rather then "Agressiv up front" Deffenders by the archers.. shoot shoot shoot
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 13, 2014 02:18 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 14:19, 13 Sep 2014.
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Dave_Jame said: Did the nagas in H6 have a problem with having no flying units?
Do you remember siege battles?
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Raelag84
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posted September 13, 2014 02:18 PM |
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Dave_Jame said: Did the nagas in H6 have a problem with having no flying units?
i thinnk such a lineup upens good doors for more unique strategies rather then "Agressiv up front" Deffenders by the archers.. shoot shoot shoot
It might have been helpful in siege battles. Still, I am not against a lack of flyers.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
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posted September 13, 2014 02:21 PM |
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Dave_Jame said: Did the nagas in H6 have a problem with having no flying units?
i thinnk such a lineup upens good doors for more unique strategies rather then "Agressiv up front" Deffenders by the archers.. shoot shoot shoot
I didn't played H6 enough to judge that, but:
one faction maybe, but several of them? Do you really want that?
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Raelag84
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posted September 13, 2014 02:31 PM |
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Well on a completely different note, do we know, beyond any doubt, that Inferno and Dungeon will be the next faction vote?
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AcidDragon
Promising
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who lost his body somehow...
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posted September 13, 2014 02:37 PM |
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Nothing is "beyond any doubt", but that statement did come from an interview with Limbic.
But - they could very well change their minds at the last minute. It's not a "design" feature, written in stone.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 13, 2014 02:59 PM |
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@Avonu:
Yes I do, and don't see a problem in them. Atleast it will give fortification and obsticals some meaning. Look at haven in H6. 3 Flyers/Teleporters. 1 unit with an Immaterialize abilitie and 1 AoE shooter. Walking units had no meaning at that point.
@Storm giant
Yes I do. Giving everybody everything turn heroes into a big rock/paper/scisors game. H6 in my eyes overdon it, with to many flying units, shooters etc. A more down to earth approach, that gives focuse on units themselves rathher then their abilities is for me the way to go.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted September 13, 2014 03:11 PM |
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I think that the problem of siege battles can be solved in Sylvan. Snakes may have an ability to gig itself into the ground and attack any chosen square. Treants might be able to attack like in CoH and therefore it may grow roots and destroy city walls' foundation. What do you think about this idea?
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Kurush
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 04:23 PM |
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Pawek_13 said: I think that the problem of siege battles can be solved in Sylvan. Snakes may have an ability to gig itself into the ground and attack any chosen square. Treants might be able to attack like in CoH and therefore it may grow roots and destroy city walls' foundation. What do you think about this idea?
I like it.
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adriancat
Famous Hero
Protector Of The Peace
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posted September 13, 2014 04:23 PM |
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I wish we could have Fortress as the sixth faction. I like them more than Dungeon and Inferno together
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TDL
Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
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posted September 13, 2014 04:45 PM |
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Too many turtling factions if we get dwarves. Please add something uber aggressive + magic oriented (stronghold aggressive w/o magic) or we'll have a tankfest throughout the whole game.
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