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posted March 01, 2016 11:36 AM |
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Edited by phe at 11:38, 01 Mar 2016.
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kipshasz said:
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Best place for Syrian immigrants is Syria.
So by this logic the best place for Polish emigrants is none other than good old Poland. So if you believe that syrians should be in Syria, then pack your bags pal and leave the Netherlands. Go home to Poland.
Otherwise dude, you're just a hypocrite.
Three times a year I pack my bags and go to Poland... For sure it is the best place...But there is no work there...I have right to work abroad...In Syria there is a war...and people think what to do to bring there basic living conditions...there is no wonder that they escape from there... I would have left Syria too... refugees are the problem for other countries...Syrians should have right to work abroad until proper living conditions are done in Syria......all the world pretends that they care...there is some opportunity there now to do something by international forces because of the chaos and no good solutions..... I think that even elections there and humanitarian help don't solve problem ... Poland requires similar reforms and solutions like Syria...I would be really prefer to live in Polish Hong Kong/Singapore like polis-state than in the Netherlands...
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posted March 01, 2016 12:10 PM |
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no they shouldn't because they're not refugees.
If they were, Italy, Greece, or wherever else they landed would've been fine to them.
Out of the horde that went into Croatia, only one woman requested for a refugee status, while the rest went on to Germany or other wealthy EU nations.
This kind of behaviour does not make them refugees. That makes them economic migrants, just like you or me, when I worked in Germany for a while.
Alo look at them: 99% of them are young able bodied men. Are they too just some whiny hipster doofuses? no, they're not. Instead of fighting for what they hold dear, they fled like rats from a sinking vessel.
Here's "no work" here too. You think other eastern bloc states are different than Poland?
You have to look for one. Or start your own. At least I heard that Poland has some support for new small businesses. Unlike here where if you're late to make a payment to social insurance, you're getting death threats from the Tax inspectors.
At the end of my short stay in Germany(6 months) EVERYTHING had started to piss me off, to a point of pulling a Breivik. Overly pedantic boss, stupid housemates, crappy german beer, the german language itself, the russians I worked along side with, the job itself, eating those pre packaged or frozen meals, lack of proper internet, everything you can possibly imagine was getting on my nerves.
That half a year made me realise I don't want to spend my years like that, abroad with crappy conditions and working just for "money". Bleep that. I'd rather eat stale Lithuanian bread than munch a kraut schitzel which was made from overly processed meat.
The only excuse for emigration I tolerate from my countrymen is a family with 3+ kids to take care of. It's a hell if you live in a city(at least if you live in a rural area and have some land, you can grow some food on your own, that makes it a bit easier)
Other than that... Not a chance.
And these "syrian" refugees do neither. Look at them. Look what happened at Cologne. Look at other German cities. Look at Sweden where they already murdered some of their "benefactors". One such "refugee" or a son of one had killed a fellow student just because the dude tried to protect some girls from the harrassment of the "refugee".
No amount of "Assad's regime of terror" or photo's of drowned kids will make me symphatize for them. If they don't behave like people, why should we treat them like such?
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posted March 01, 2016 12:39 PM |
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Edited by phe at 12:55, 01 Mar 2016.
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Refugees/economic miggrants no big diffrence (of name of it)
They won't find too many jobs because of high minimum wage in UE and unsound economy (unemployment, less working places) because of it...
All Central-Eastern Europe countries requires the same solutions...no tax or bureaucracy obstacles for business instead of support them... getting rid of compulsory social insurances and red-tape...eradication of criminality... lower cost of living.. cheap housing and energy...free of charge spatial-planning...free education on pc's without budget spendings in their/our own languages...
You said they should stay and fight but what if there is no big diffrence among sides of conflict...now we know what to do...with good will and support they can come back or wait until somethinhg is done...
Good people should have right to live and work until something is done in their home country. Criminals should be placed in forced-labour-camps or executed... many children disappeared in Italy and Sweden...that's terrifying  ... Impale kidnappers!!!
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posted March 01, 2016 12:43 PM |
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posted March 01, 2016 12:50 PM |
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phe said:
many children disappeared in Italy and Sweden...that's terrifying ... Impale kidnappers!!!
Also Norway, but that's a different topic.
With the current deals in Germany, I started calling Frau Merkel the Reverse Hitler.
Also Stevie's right. There is a huge difference between a refugee and an economic migrant.
But eastern bloc economic migrants are a tad better than "syrians", since many actually travel to the richer EU countries(or Norway) for ACTUAL WORK.
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posted March 01, 2016 01:55 PM |
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The way the EU with Merkel and other dumb leaders managed this migration only proved that they don't give a crap about anyone, citizens or "refugees". It was such a chaotic cluster**** that special operations could only dream of achieving.
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posted March 01, 2016 02:14 PM |
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posted March 01, 2016 10:23 PM |
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Joonas is right. Is not about people our leaders care, because before the refugee crisis there still were homeless or unemployed people everywhere, and nothing was done. Because of Hitler, Europe is suffering from a complete guilt complex. Anyone that resists immigration is accused of being a nazi and silenced.
And now we have a continent of emasculated socialist cuckolds who sit idly by as their culture is destroyed and their women are raped by Islamic hordes.
I think this video shows what is wrong with our leaders. When you are ashamed to hold your flag, you shouldn't govern that country.
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posted March 02, 2016 08:50 AM |
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Hitler or the xenophoby in general don't fit very well into the context here because this whole thing was not started by tolerance issues or managed with humaneness in mind as the primary motivator. The refugees and the immigrants have been gathering for the last several years and it was really a matter of time to start flooding Europe - they have to go somewhere. Under normal circumstances there would have been a plan or at least an ongoing discussion how to deal with the issue no less than an year before it started. The opening of the floodgates however coincided with other major problems for the EU - Ukraine, Greece, the ongoing recession - and by the time when the refugee crisis started, the Union already had its hands full, with no real common policy how to deal with issues of such scale (which has been a time bomb for decades, it just so happens that it finally exploded before somebody bothered to notice it). Then the German government made its extremely stupid and irresponsible "invitation" but that only speeded up the already started process. Merkel and her crew still has much to answer for though, because of them the other European countries had and have to hastily deal with a mixed crowd of real refugees, economic immigrants and terrorists instead of a filtered - in a controlled manner, on the border of the EU - stream of people genuinely seeking refuge. They also provided Erdogan with a weapon to blackmail multiple countries which he wouldn't have without all this rush and if there was external border control instead of "Komm nach das Wunderland". Now, with the borders closing, there is a really good chance that the immigrants of all kinds will be clustered in several Eastern countries - some of which are quite volatile (the Balkans) - on their way to the Western countries which don't want them, further increasing the internal tension. With UK wanting to exit the EU by summer, I wonder if the whole thing will survive in a functional state this year.
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posted March 02, 2016 09:29 AM |
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I'd like to remind everybody that if the EU wasn't the "Union of German and French interests" this could have been solved before the Libyan crisis.
But of course no: "Italy must pay ze debts! And take ze migrants! And destroy zeir crops! And approve ze civil unions!"
And the EU even fined Italy for not being "humane" enough back when African migrants went through the sea to come to Europe, instead of aiding us for something that we couldn't face alone.
And now this may happen to Greece too, because you know, Greece isn't that state that may risk a total collapse...
At this point it's more than apparent that the other states are the slaves of Germany...
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posted March 02, 2016 04:45 PM |
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Seems to me that this whole ordeal was orchestrated by Merkel and her ideas of solving the demographic catastrophe of an aging country.
Too bad it backfired so soon.
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posted March 02, 2016 05:19 PM |
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It's a combination of factors. For one, Merkel and EU leaders don't care for the well-being of anyone. Secondly, it is clear that they are pursuing multiculturalism and displays of national values are deemed racist or intolerant of minorities. Thirdly, population unrest can be exploited for easier approval of policies and possibly even a intervention in Syria if opportunities and interests lean in that direction.
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posted March 21, 2016 08:57 PM |
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60 minutes, pro-refugees media get its crew run over then violently attacked by migrants in Swedistan. Swedish police says they won't come defend the crew because their presence will create more conflict. IMO swedish police should wear dresses from now, it will fit better.
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posted March 21, 2016 09:22 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 21:22, 21 Mar 2016.
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Must be real nice to sit your sorry ass on some other nation's welfare system and show the locals how mighty and brave you are when in fact you're nothing more that chicken **** running away from your home country when it needs you the most. I swear I'd beat the living crap out of those idiots with extreme prejudice.
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posted March 21, 2016 10:31 PM |
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That is a good material for a new Grand Theft Auto game.
Seriously though, crime rate can only rise from now on. As if it wasn't enough that we have to worry about people actually being ISIS followers.
A "normal" citizen would at least start insulting people, rather than attack others.
Hm, it makes me wonder, if these people were under a different religion/culture, would they actually start attacking the reporters?
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posted March 21, 2016 10:59 PM |
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hoodlums will be hoodlums. just don't forget that there're good people among the migrants.
what gets me, is why in the hell would you move to a country whose language you don't speak(according to what was said in the vid)? just seems like you'd be setting yourself up for failure. if i had to move to a foreign country due to whatever, you better believe i'd be poring over the country's language, and learning what i could to try and fit in.
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posted March 22, 2016 10:52 AM |
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so the rapefugees thank Belgium by bombing Brussels.
Thanks Merkel.
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posted March 22, 2016 11:21 AM |
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Edited by phe at 11:24, 22 Mar 2016.
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kipshasz said:
so the rapefugees thank Belgium by bombing Brussels.
Thanks Merkel.
if only it had been in EU buildings...
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posted March 22, 2016 11:35 AM |
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Too tight of security, easier to bomb metro stations and airports.
Still, trotskytes with their "refugees welcome" crap will see nothing wrong with them.
Deport each and every single one of them.
My other ideas are a tad too radical to post here.
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posted March 22, 2016 11:44 AM |
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Edited by phe at 11:58, 22 Mar 2016.
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kipshasz said:
Too tight of security, easier to bomb metro stations and airports.
use trebuchets... TNT-vest-terrorist as projectile...
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Still, trotskytes with their "refugees welcome" crap will see nothing wrong with them.
Deport each and every single one of them.
My other ideas are a tad too radical to post here.
propably severe punishment of criminals would suffice...
if we don't want immigrants we should set good development condition in their home countries... not every one of them is terrorist...not even one in hundred of them...let them work... but because of high taxes, minimum wage and stupid working regulations there is unemployment...
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