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alexine
alexine


Known Hero
posted September 16, 2016 08:34 AM

Looking at how many new and unique creatures you made for the existing factions, I can´t wait how a brand new faction will look like ! So..when should we expect it ?
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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 16, 2016 08:42 AM

At best, late tonight. Else, we will really try for a weekend release. We are working on it, some bios are still left and some abilities, but we are not too far behind

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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 18, 2016 04:59 PM
Edited by Articun at 17:02, 18 Sep 2016.

Be sure to see the new addition to the Inolin project. A Faction never seen before. A jungle faction that is based loosely on Mayan/Aztec/Inca civilizations.

Go into the Jungle but beware. There are many dangers there. An as the old saying goes "Do not let any blood priest see you"

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


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posted September 18, 2016 05:38 PM
Edited by Rakshasa92 at 18:03, 18 Sep 2016.

Articun said:
Be sure to see the new addition to the Inolin project. A Faction never seen before. A jungle faction that is based loosely on Mayan/Aztec/Inca civilizations.

Go into the Jungle but beware. There are many dangers there. An as the old saying goes "Do not let any blood priest see you"


Awesome, by far my favorite town in your project so far, I can't wait for dark forest.

Some minor things: You already have the Nue, so the Smoke Spirit can be called Enenra, which is a Japanese smoke-based spirit.

Cipactli suits more into this town, it could replace the balaur, which I don't think fits this town very much. Cipactli is also from aztec culture.

And btw, the Nue = extremely evil in the myth, one of the most evil creatures in Japanese Yokai culture. I wouldn't mind a neutral (but hostile as it eats flesh) but a good-natured Nue is not done in my eyes.

Otherwise AWESOME.


Some other Jungle residents that could have worked for this town:

Also another cool monster for this town is the Mayan Camulatz: This is a executonier bird of some God, that rips of heads like a living guillotine.

Vish Kanya, these evil amazone women poison their own children so they become immune to it at later ages, they are the masters of ranged weapons and poison.

Camazotz, the batgod suits this town like a glove.

Bonguru, which are boar monsters with fungus/plants growing on their heads and backs and which body fuctions as a living hornet hive, which burry through the poor creatures flesh and which defend their living host at all cost, giving the creature some cruel form of protection.

Bush Dai Dai, the female variant of the Jaguarfolk, these black panther women are very stealthy and are perfect assassins that can shapeshift into the form of an attractive young black skinned woman.

El Tunche, these enormous jungle elementals/protectors take the forms of beasts (mantis for example) made up from all types of dangerous jungle plants, they are the guardians of the jungles. When El Tunche is angry it is as if the entire jungle is out to kill you.


El Tunche is watching you.

Chaneque, these Aztec jungle goblins are very hatefull especially against pretty fae creatures, they collect the souls of fae and use them in magical attacks against other creatures. They appear to be mixes of goblins and bats, they use the sails between their arms as gliding mechanizm, they can't fly.

Curupira, Red haired jungle gnomes, related to forest fire and mischief, they ride on pecarri pigs and their feet are pointing backwards to mislead eventual hunters of them.

Mapinguari, Giant forest sloths with a single eye, giant claws and a giant fanged maw in their stomach.

Minhocao, Enormous jungle worms with the armor of a pangolin/armadillo.

Dingonek, any pangolin-type of creature would be cool in this town.

Eintykara, A swarm of bee-like insects that are intelligent while in a swarm and can take the form of humanoids, demons, dragons and everything their little intelligence can come up with.


Eintykara can turn into awesome forms when angry.

Kayeri, dangerous fungus-headed guardians of the jungles that can teleport from every toadstool/mushroom in the jungle.

Ookempam, These are very much like the mythological monsters that resemble Bulette from D&D, armagdillo monsters that eat flesh.

Succarath, Strange creatures with enormous tails and youngters on their back with mental powers.

Succarath use their own young as fuel for their mental powers.

Thriae or other bee-persons, bee folk can also work as Ah-muzen-cab is a bee-god in aztec/mayan mythology.

Zhenniao, poisonous crane-like birds.






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kiryu133
kiryu133

Hero of Order
Highly illogical
posted September 18, 2016 06:04 PM

...I'm sure you can come up with a better name than "feathersaur"

that said, happy to see historically accurate raptors
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Mediczero
Mediczero


Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
posted September 18, 2016 06:59 PM

Pretty awesome town, which would certainly make for an awesome gameplay. Though personally I would perfer a more shadow themed faction for this, a bit of a dark jungle feel. Either works though.

And by the way, Rakshasa, do us all a favor and try to make your post a little less... spacy. Keep any pictures as links and use less space between the lines. Though I agre about Camazotz.

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2016 07:23 PM

Mediczero said:
Pretty awesome town, which would certainly make for an awesome gameplay. Though personally I would perfer a more shadow themed faction for this, a bit of a dark jungle feel. Either works though.

And by the way, Rakshasa, do us all a favor and try to make your post a little less... spacy. Keep any pictures as links and use less space between the lines. Though I agre about Camazotz.


Im not gonna change my posts for lazy mobilephone readers, just use a pc or tablet like anyone browsing the internet should. I hate mobilephone people and will never adapt to them.

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kiryu133
kiryu133

Hero of Order
Highly illogical
posted September 18, 2016 09:22 PM

could you guys go a single post without starting to snap at each others necks? please?

I'm also inclined to agree with Medic here, Rakshasa. These are pretty good and informative posts, however they take a lot of space and the pics don't exactly help. It'd be appreciated if you would link to them instead, for everyone's convenience, not just phone users. Not that that should matter mind.




OT:

Giant bug, woo! Not feeling a weak plant (I liked the H4 waspworth) but that's more personal preference. It probably works rather well.


Still not a fan of the jaguars.

i like the nue. cool idea. Auhizotl seems a bit high tier. switch with Raptor I'd say. Raptors be scary mate.

Blood priest is cool. might've prefered something non-human but that's hard to tell.

Gorrilon is really cool. can't believe I haven't thought about something like that myself though I'm not sure it's the best fit for a mayincatec faction? probably would've worked more if it was an African-inspired faction. Still, a fan.

Rush dive sounds familiar...

All in all, lineup seems cool, however I can't shake that it overlaps a bit too much with bastion in origins and aesthetics. Specifically in that bastion was based on H3 Fortress which in turn was based on the same mesoamerican cultures Temple is meaning they kinda blend together. The jungle setting don't help with either.
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Galaad
Galaad


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Enrothian Conservative Party
posted September 19, 2016 06:29 PM

Since when pics are a sore? As long as they aren't oversized I have no problem with them, as for spacing, gee let people write the way they want what the hell.
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Minastir
Minastir


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 20, 2016 09:09 PM

Rakshasa92 said:

Awesome, by far my favorite town in your project so far, I can't wait for dark forest.

Some other Jungle residents that could have worked for this town:



One thing, We like some of your ideas for the factions you give, It's just that you give them After we already make the line-up After the process of elimination (which we have described couple of times here and it's based of many variables, not just creatures looks) so as you know we are making more factions (look, page 13) and if you have creatures suggestion for Pyramid (because we haven't finish the line-up yet, like you did now for Temple, do it now before we post them so we will be able to look through them and check if there is anything interesting, you can add them to the post you already made

for Pyramid, creatures from Egyptian mythology but not only, also creatures from other mythologies but related to the desert theme

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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 20, 2016 10:12 PM
Edited by Articun at 22:14, 20 Sep 2016.

I would also like to add something to what Minastir said: Because we use a theme, THIS DOES NOT MEAN, that the units must be tied to specific theme. I mean, the whole point of this project is to be as creative as possible and make something coherent but not restrictive. For example, in Temple we used a jungle theme with Native American influences. This does not mean that we couldn't use pegasus here if we so wanted or could in some way incorporate him into the faction. It is a very different world if you remember, with different (if abstract) rules.

Also, for kiryu133. You say that Bastion and Temple are alike. Though i disagree with you. At least in my mind, these factions are quite opposites. Bastion is in my mind darker: People living in swamp, under the shadows of tall trees, with little light, mostly with torches to give them light, secluded, away from everything, tribal, conservative, primal, blending with their environment and relying on poisons and the terrain to wage war. On the other hand, Temple, is very bright: They worship the Sun, so they have light everywhere. Obstacles that reflect the sun. They live in the Jungle but in clearings, allowing for their gargantuan temples to be seen. They are very war oriented as they go on killing from village to village in order to keep the supply of sacrifices. They excel in war, pillaging and plundering, they are known and they do not shy from it. They are feared. Also, in respect to units, i don't think they are the same design wise or playstyle/ability wise either. You have in mind the Fortress of Heroes III but Bastion is not the same.

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Famous Hero
posted September 21, 2016 10:51 AM
Edited by Rakshasa92 at 10:55, 21 Sep 2016.

Oh, enemies of the desert, I have plenty of those.

For the best ones:

Aghash - Like some demonic beholder demon, these are evil eye demons from Arabian mythology, they are part of the Div demons.

Ammit - Part lion, crocodile and hippo, the Ammit or Ammut is a terrifying soul-eating monster, once your soul is eaten by this Egyptian beast, it can never be recovered.

Axex - These beautiful griffons (which in my world combine lion with secretary bird) have powers over the solar rays and are mostly seen as the kings of all griffon-species, they have this crown on their heads made from feathers (so much like the secretary bird)

Cactus Cat - These are lynx-like cats covered in cactus quills and they are green in color to blend in with the cacti they live among. In my own world they are actually  carnivorous plants (cacti) that take on the appearance of a hunting beast (lynx, or puma) to hunt for prey and drain their blood.

Chupacabra - The blood-drinking cryptids mostly appear in desert area's.

Cerastes - Giant sand-vipers that hide under the desert sand and hunt from ambush.

Death Worm - From mongolian myths comes the Death Worm, these lightning and acid shooting horror worms burrow mostly through sand.

Djieien - Solufugid spiders the size of a dog, these horrors will be reborn undead as you slay them, the only way to kill them is to find their hidden heart and pierce it with obsidian, in HOMM-games however they could just be reborn as undead monsters and then be killed, the heart-thing can be ignored.

Karkadann - Neutral and harsh unicorns from the desert with a very bad temper, their name means Lord of the Desert in Persian language.

Girtablilu - Half scorpion and half human/demon, these are like the centaurs of the deserts.

Sandwalker - gigantic mixes of scorpion and crabs, they have two scorpion tails and four crab-like scissors.

Gold-Digging Ant - These small-dog sized ants love gold and mine it, they destroy anyone that tries to steal their precious.

Leucrotta - Half hyena, stag and badger, these nasty intelligent beasts use mimicry to lure their prey close and use their powerful jaws (the most powerful jaws of all time to be exact) to bite them to little pieces.

Miraj/Al-mi'raj - These unicorn bunnies are strictly carnivorous and very aggressive, since they are from arabian myths I can imagen they are also found in deserts.

Myrmecoleon - These are giant antlions in my own project, in the real myth they suck, so i'm not gonna tell you.

Oniate - Two mummified arms/hands that disintegrate everything they touch. So much like the crawling claws from D&D

Sak - A wingless griffon species with a lotus-flower growing on the end of its tail, which calms down its prey so it can easily kill them.

Salawa/Sha - These black jackal-like horrors work for Set, the god of beasts and darkness. Their bite drives other creatures insane and their aura turns other beasts mad.

Scarab Beetles - They eat everything, run.

Seitaad - Sand demons made from sand from native american mythology.

Skinwalkers - These mostly reside in deserts too.

Urmahlullu - These are like lion-centaurs, if you don't like scorpion-men.

Xhumpedzkin - Psychic gilamonsters, which bite shadows to poison and which aura causes tremendrous headache.

Xoc - Dangerous native american cactus monsters.

Yagim - I use these red-headed demon sharks from Native American Mythology as sand sharks, but another name for Sand Sharks are cool too. Sand Shark obviously are sharks that swim in desert sand. A desert manta-ray would work too, or even a desert kraken.







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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 21, 2016 12:36 PM

Hmmm... Maybe with different names, but a few of what you posted will appear in Pyramid. At least 5 of them i must say

Aghash, Axex, Cactus Cat, Death Worm, Karkadann, Leucrotta, Salawa/Sha, Urmahlullu must be excluded because they either appear in other factions, or variations of their form, or because they look too much like other creatures.

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Mediczero
Mediczero


Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
posted September 21, 2016 04:35 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
Urmahlullu - These are like lion-centaurs, if you don't like scorpion-men.

Thanks! I've been kinda wondering about a cat-centaur race for a while, in the back of my head at least. Should go well with my beastiary.

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alexine
alexine


Known Hero
posted September 22, 2016 11:37 PM

I love the creatures you included in Temple, it´s something never seen in Heroes before. Quetzalcoatl, Ahuizotl and the bee are my favourties. Feathersaurs are a funny addition and I love their name. I don´t think it needs any changing.

The humanoid units are all different from each other. The Ritualist with blood magic and curses is something I hoped for here so I am very pleased to see it included.

I also expected to see some kind of snake unit, given that so far no town features a snake or spider, but your ideas are more original, so it will probably be better to leave snakes and spiders as neutrals.

Overall this faction is one of the best in your project I think...Oh, and I can´t even imagine the beautifull townscreen.
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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 23, 2016 09:56 AM

Thank you all for your kind words

Btw, if you haven't notice, keep checking out the thread and factions because we will at times add our preference for a Faction theme of sorts, that will make reading the story of the faction and units a little more immersive, allowing you to better picture it as a whole on your mind

We try to differentiate as much as possible every faction and also provide a good ratio of beasts and humanoids wherever we can. We hope we do make due most of the time.


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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Famous Hero
posted September 23, 2016 04:08 PM

Don't forget to put Dullahan and Redcaps in Dark Forest town!

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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 23, 2016 04:34 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
Don't forget to put Dullahan and Redcaps in Dark Forest town!


Well... so far none of the two are in the lineup Raks... Sorry, my bad for this. I am supervising this faction and i am kind of making it my own. There are gonna be a lot of new stuff there, but these two don't fit the theme i am going for. But other units you've said over the time are in.

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Mediczero
Mediczero


Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
posted September 23, 2016 06:39 PM

Articun said:
Well... so far none of the two are in the lineup Raks... Sorry, my bad for this. I am supervising this faction and i am kind of making it my own. There are gonna be a lot of new stuff there, but these two don't fit the theme i am going for. But other units you've said over the time are in.

Mind giving us a hint? Just a few words to spark life in our imaginations and making sure we wont be too disappointed about it being not what we expected.

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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 23, 2016 07:01 PM
Edited by Articun at 19:01, 23 Sep 2016.

But i did give a hint of the previous page. Guess you missed it. Well, here it is again. This is the theme, the feel i am going for in this dark forest Faction. The theme is primordial fear, the one found when darkness falls:

Quote:
The night falls and you find yourself in a thick forest, luminescent with eerie lights, dead silent. No normal sound coming from woods is heard. You walk upon pathways, hard to describe them so. From the side of your eyes you can catch distorted figures moving about, silently, prowling… An uncomfortable feeling of something following you, looking at you, stalking you is always present. A rustling!!! Something is indeed there! Or was it just imagination? It is thick darkness, the mind can create images, bring forth fears hidden from childhood age. But you are a man. Although, in the darkness, fear overcomes, you are a child once more. Suddenly, you stumble upon something hard, hitting face and chest on it. You fall back trembling. A tree, it was just a tree. You try to stand back again, and face two huge yellow glowing eyes looking at you, and you know, your end has come…


I can't give you much more though

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