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Zephyria
Zephyria

Tavern Dweller
posted March 17, 2017 10:01 PM

Galaad said:
Stevie said:
Btw, any tips for the Vampire Lord battle at the 37th step of the tower? I seem to have a hard time dealing with the bats and the resurrection.


Actually I was stuck there until I got the Phoenix up and running with the good combo dots, need a strong team because have to kill him before he resurrects. And the bats that keep spawning...
I wish I had a Vampire, they seem crazy strong.

Then all following levels are easy until 49, now I'm stuck there and seems is the same problem, I'm leveling up another blue creature but first waves have yellow ones, sadists.


Hi.

I also have trouble with tower 37.

By the way I also badly wish to get a Vampire, I can evolve to a Vampire  Lord, but where do they drop, and is the creature just called a Vampire before it is leveled up and evolved?

I will be thankfull for help
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Lunatic
Lunatic


Hired Hero
posted March 17, 2017 10:16 PM
Edited by Lunatic at 22:17, 17 Mar 2017.

The creature is called Vampire...evolves to vampire lord and vampire overlord...very good nuke,mediocre defender and a bit squishy.

Drops from any random diamond summon or a black summoning statue.

For tower 37 I must say,a nuke and that light elemental did wonders for me,never had a real problem there

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lordgraa
lordgraa


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posted March 17, 2017 10:23 PM

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Then all following levels are easy until 49...


This. I am stuck at 49 too and just cannot beat the fire bit... erm, witch

Just need some crazy blue nuker... any tips? Anyone behind this level?
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Lunatic
Lunatic


Hired Hero
posted March 17, 2017 10:58 PM
Edited by Lunatic at 22:59, 17 Mar 2017.

I finished tower already.
49 is hard...you need at least a stun,if possible a silence and a looot of nuking.

I killed her after the first 2 summons appeared and then tactically cleaned up with nuking down one after the other and using  a ton of stuns. It's definitely one of the hardest fights in the game so far.

You need a very high evolved team and also some patience to beat that stage.

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Zephyria
Zephyria

Tavern Dweller
posted March 17, 2017 10:59 PM

Lunatic said:
The creature is called Vampire...evolves to vampire lord and vampire overlord...very good nuke,mediocre defender and a bit squishy.

Drops from any random diamond summon or a black summoning statue.

For tower 37 I must say,a nuke and that light elemental did wonders for me,never had a real problem there

Best regards
Luna


Thanx
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted March 18, 2017 12:24 AM

Or use Treant to silence, IIRC the cooldown is longer than stun, leaving you more time to kill her before she summons the fireballs.
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Raenus
Raenus


Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
posted March 18, 2017 06:30 AM

Question for HungryDragon/his replacement.

Do debuffs stack? If I hit a creature with a 20% PWR debuff and then with a 30% one will the target have a 20% 30% or 50% debuff?
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted March 18, 2017 10:49 AM
Edited by Galaad at 13:18, 18 Mar 2017.

Lol we keep hitting each other with Andruids, how much I wish we could actually REALLY PvP,with main party vs main party! (Additionally to the AI for defense). How awesome would it be if there was an option to challenge players directly when they are online and not when they are "away". We could organize tournaments and such...

PS @Andruids: You almost got lucky as after I finished your dungeon this morning I got a crash, battle still passed, phew^^
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markmasters
markmasters


Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
posted March 18, 2017 04:02 PM
Edited by markmasters at 16:05, 18 Mar 2017.

Hey Y'all

As we posted our new rule about the minimum of 5000 prestige last week I felt like I might offer some support to the ones in need when it comes to dungeon challenges . I feel like most have their strategies for attacking since it's similair as questing, so this topic will be about Defending your dungeon

Dungeon challenges defence 101

Every new challenge the 5-wave setup changes. This week we have:

Wave 1:
6- small creatures (4 flying, 2 walkers)
1-medium creature (walker)

Wave 2:
2- epic creatures (1- flying 1- walker)
1- medium creature (walker)
2- small creaures (flying)

Wave 3: Boss

Wave 4:
2- epic creatures (walkers)
3- medium creatures (flying)

Wave 5: Boss

Before We start, look to the two pictures below. Which line-up do you think is better (if you ignore the level differences)? (imaginary clock starts running)





Although the 'better' line-up depends on your opponents team I am very positive about  line-up two (the yellow squad) Being the better one. But why might you ask?

While questing the first thing you learned is that your team needs variety and every player will bring a varied team to their quests. Also to their dungeons.

Once you play the Grand Wish quests you notice you will need to specialise sometimes, hence the effectiveness of a single colour team of the AI against yours. As defenders can't obtain bonuses from combo dots they don't need the mixed colours. The amount of combo-dots IS important though. The more dots a creature has, the faster they attack when defending.

Back to the line-up. mixed teams will attack various targets often because they are tend to attack their 'weakness'. So these yellow creatures will often prioritise blue creatures.

Last week the weekly event allowed players to farm a Siren, a blue healer, hence that a lot of people use this as the healer. If you succeed to wipe the healer out in your defense, Chances greatly increase that you will obtain a succesfull defence.

In my example, after the yellow creatures there is a Minotaur (red boss). So if the yellow wave succeeds in killing a blue creature, the boss wave will be significantly harder for the attacker. Also if the attacker used a lot of green creatures to overcome the yellow wave, the minotaur might give them a hard time.

So in this way waves can help to 'support' eachother (pretty cool!) which I think is a key concept to dungeon defenses. A good example I encountered was a stegosauras at wave 3 which instantly killed my red creature, and a green Hydra at stage 5 which regenerated to much health with his special and I had to abandon the assault.

A few short beginners tips:

- Don't have enough creatures? use the smaller dungeon, because bosses will be MUCH weaker if not every slot is filled
- Avoid using (a lot) of healers as defenders as attackers can easily build up their creatures mana pool on them without being in peril of getting nuked. A creature that can rescurect a fallen creature can be quite good though.
- Stick to the smaller dungeon if you use underleveled creatures (like level ones) in the bigger dungeon, they will just supply free mana.

Please feel free to discuss if you disagree with my points or have advice yourself! We can all still learn .

Good luck with the challenge!






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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Famous Hero
posted March 18, 2017 04:26 PM

I have a forest giant endboss and a stegosaurus sub-boss to kill off the red creatures. I dont have any good small creatures though...

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted March 18, 2017 05:03 PM

Thanks for your time Marks, nothing I can disagree with, added to OP.
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Raenus
Raenus


Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
posted March 19, 2017 06:04 AM
Edited by Raenus at 07:43, 19 Mar 2017.

Okay, I am freaking livid right now.

EDIT: Calmed down and actually did some thorough testing. My first test with the detonation was against a green boss and I was expecting to nuke it hard with a detonated dot. I was very disappointed when it hit for about half of what I was expecting. I then tried detonating more burns on another fight and again I was only detonating for about a 1,000 when they had a 1,000x3 dot on them. It never occurred to me that the element of the creature would be ignored by the process.

Sorry for losing my temper.

Creature Quest devs/HungryDragon PLEASE TAKE NOTE!

I did the final multisummon and got another three dot sludge hulk. I decided that I might as well give it a go since I had 4 of them and a Pheonix. Get it into a fight and am immediately disappointed in so, so many ways.

1: The detonate only deals as much damage as a creature would take once. For example say I have a 3-turn burn dealing 1,000 damage a turn, I hit it with detonate and the creature takes 1,000 damage not 3,000.

2: The awakening step that says it heals part of the damage it deals when hitting a creature that has a burn or poison does not work. Makes me wonder about the other awakening steps.

3: Elemental weaknesses don't count for the detonation (or possibly it turns EVERY burn/poison into a green one). I have my Pheonix burn a green creature, I can either detonate it for 10,000 damage or let it run out for 23,000 damage. Which makes me think that the burn is also affected by the targets defense and possibly the attack of the sludge hulk when detonated.

So now I have a crappy green creature with less stats than my Treant actively reducing the damage of the rest of my team. Not only that, I also totemed it out on the ludicrous assumption that IT WOULD ACTUALLY DO WHAT IT SAYS!

I can't believe that there would be such a poorly implemented creature released into the game.

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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
HC SUPPORTER
posted March 19, 2017 06:11 AM

That's really unfortunate. I'm not sure if the devs are aware of how many bugs the game seems to have.
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Raenus
Raenus


Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
posted March 19, 2017 07:38 AM
Edited by Raenus at 07:55, 19 Mar 2017.

Did some more testing. Calmed down a bit.

I am pretty sure that the detonate ignores elements. Detonating the burn from my Pheonix does the same damage to blue, green, and yellow creatures. Not sure if intentional or not. This lead to a lot of my misconceptions.

It does appear that detonate works as intended, other than the color nullifying properties of it. Could a dev confirm whether this is intended or not?

Sorry for posting misleading information, I lost my cool when I detonated a burn for around half of what I was expecting. Completely on me.

The awakening heal still does not work at all though.
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dulkan
dulkan


Known Hero
posted March 19, 2017 03:38 PM
Edited by dulkan at 15:42, 19 Mar 2017.

I just finished all grand wishes on king and got a spider queen from the idol.

Here are her base stats on lvl 60, no totems:

pwr: 930
hp: 5520
atk: 1080
def: 840
luc: 1380
mp: 110

base attack: assassin

special: attacks target 8 times for 20% pwr each. Each hit has a 25% chance to inflict -20% pwr, atk, def and/or luck for 3 turns.


What do you think of her? She appears to be useless on defense. Very fragile.
But on offense, she seems to be an excellent nuker and debuffer. With 8 hits and her high luck, it seems very likely for her to inflict those  debuffs.


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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted March 20, 2017 08:21 AM

Waking up with -850 Prestige, just the regular stuff.
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lordgraa
lordgraa


Promising
Famous Hero
The Whisperer
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posted March 20, 2017 09:21 AM
Edited by lordgraa at 09:22, 20 Mar 2017.

Galaad said:
Waking up with -850 Prestige, just the regular stuff.


Welcome to my world

With those "wakeups" I am still under 5k... I am now able to beat opponents above my level with strong dungeons yet I lack my own duengeon defense - this is my weak spot so I will focuse more on strenghtening small-sized creatures.

And question for everyone: I know 3dot cretures drop in Battle Tower (not for me yet) but did you get 4dot? I farm like crazy but all I got so far is 0-2 dots
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markmasters
markmasters


Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
posted March 20, 2017 11:13 AM
Edited by markmasters at 11:15, 20 Mar 2017.

I know someone here obtained a 4 dot fairy dragon from there, but I know they are very hard to get.

I got a few 3-dots from there, but the only 4-dot creature I ever got is the elephant

Edit: Spider queen is horrible defender, but seems good offensive to me with that ability!

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hayenne
hayenne


Known Hero
posted March 20, 2017 11:25 AM

I got a 4d faerie dragon, but it was a quest battle drop, not Tower. I did get a plenty of 3d creatures from Tower though, I think 4d is also possible, just the chances are very low (for common creatures anyway).
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted March 20, 2017 12:01 PM

lordgraa said:
Welcome to my world


Welcome? This has always happened mate.

Around half the guild is under 5k, however the guild ranks 9 ATM, so keep it up folks, and I hope the others can make it for the end of the challenge.

Never got a 4d from Battle Tower but as far as things go it should be possible, only super rare.

markmasters said:
I got a few 3-dots from there, but the only 4-dot creature I ever got is the elephant


4dot elephant! They are good for defense, especially awakened ones, had I known during the event I would have farmed it completely.
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