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Thread: Creature Quest – Discussion Thread This Popular Thread is 155 pages long: 1 20 40 60 80 ... 86 87 88 89 90 ... 100 120 140 155 · «PREV / NEXT»
dulkan
dulkan


Known Hero
posted April 24, 2017 06:10 PM

He casts silence at around 30% health. you need a lot of dmg and control to kill him quickly enough. With your team comp that's pretty hopeless. when the silence hits, you are as good as dead. the next special he casts will crit your entire team and the fatigue debuff is still applied. You have at best 3 full turns of basics before you die.

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Tress
Tress


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2017 06:42 PM

dulkan said:
He casts silence at around 30% health. you need a lot of dmg and control to kill him quickly enough. With your team comp that's pretty hopeless. when the silence hits, you are as good as dead. the next special he casts will crit your entire team and the fatigue debuff is still applied. You have at best 3 full turns of basics before you die.


Its pretty though then Not really sure how to do , since i already have to go with various tricks to get to w3 at all like using ressurection healer to change places on w1 and w2.
Well will need to figure it out eventually or get different healer which can be universal.

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 24, 2017 06:49 PM

First two waves are easy: The Archmage gets hit by his own summons and the Sorceress straight out tells what NOT to do, sadly my gaming time is limited nowadays but I can't wait to try that third wave again, hopefully soon enough.
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dulkan
dulkan


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posted April 24, 2017 07:16 PM

Galaad said:
First two waves are easy: The Archmage gets hit by his own summons and the Sorceress straight out tells what NOT to do, sadly my gaming time is limited nowadays but I can't wait to try that third wave again, hopefully soon enough.


You have to hit the sorceress with specials, else she won't summon black elementals.

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 24, 2017 07:28 PM
Edited by Galaad at 19:29, 24 Apr 2017.

dulkan said:
You have to hit the sorceress with specials, else she won't summon black elementals.


Wait a sec, does this mean you actually WANT her to summon them as necessary to pass the third wave?
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dulkan
dulkan


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posted April 24, 2017 07:30 PM

Uh, of course? Or do you plan on plinking her down with yellow basic attacks?

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 24, 2017 07:33 PM

No I meant, is this a requirement for beating the Fallen Angel, as in the battles are linked in that way?
Otherwise the black summons are very dangerous to me and I prefer to play safer, it doesn't take that long.
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dulkan
dulkan


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posted April 24, 2017 07:49 PM

I see, then no, it isn't a requirement. Unless of course, you run lvl 51 without yellows like I do.

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 24, 2017 08:13 PM

IIRC white and black hits her too.
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted April 25, 2017 01:02 AM

Kobold (blue) good? Lol they are my torture creatures, they cant do anything to my non fire team, they are good for giving me mana.

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 25, 2017 01:14 AM

Rakshasa92 said:
they cant do anything to my non fire team


duh
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ANcientDRuids
ANcientDRuids


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(Andruids for short)
posted April 25, 2017 01:16 AM
Edited by ANcientDRuids at 01:17, 25 Apr 2017.

They can KO my Phoenix once if paired up with a parrot and a lizardman and a mask if I ignore them too much : p

(imo no, unless they have 4dots)

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 25, 2017 01:20 AM

They hit single target twice with 250% PWR dmg for first strike and 60%  of ATK for second, then buffs ATK of whole party for 35%. That's like, very good. I love them in offense and in defense they can indeed kill your Phoenix if you're careless. I don't know much about the tome swaps, but useless? Please.
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dulkan
dulkan


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posted April 25, 2017 07:35 AM

You are running into the fallacy of only looking at the special. Yes, the special is absolutely amazing, but the kobold pirates stats are very bad, which still only makes him good, not excellent. His dmg potential is far lower than that of comparable due to his low pwr and atk.

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Tress
Tress


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posted April 25, 2017 08:07 AM

Galaad said:
First two waves are easy: The Archmage gets hit by his own summons and the Sorceress straight out tells what NOT to do, sadly my gaming time is limited nowadays but I can't wait to try that third wave again, hopefully soon enough.


First two waves while doable are there to cripple your team by composition itself - countercolors / need for dispel . You simply are limited to not using ice or fire creatures, or if you do , you need to cripple teams potential in different place like i did , and then failed miserably in w3. If i could start w3 with my prime hitters , probably i would be able to do it.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 25, 2017 09:27 AM

dulkan said:
You are running into the fallacy of only looking at the special. Yes, the special is absolutely amazing, but the kobold pirates stats are very bad, which still only makes him good, not excellent. His dmg potential is far lower than that of comparable due to his low pwr and atk.


I think any creature stats are viable and the special is indeed what I usually focus on, is not for nothing you want to fill up mana asap during fights, making the best of color dots. Then of course it stays a medium creature, and not the best one by a good margin you can find I agree, still one of the most enjoyable to me personally, he never failed me.
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Dulkan
Dulkan


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posted April 25, 2017 02:07 PM

Galaad said:
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I think any creature stats are viable and the special is indeed what I usually focus on.


You need to look at the stats, too. Take the succubus for example. Her special is absolutely amazing, she has high power, deals a lot of aoe dmg and her debuff is very powerful.
But her stats are so bad, she is nigh unuseable. Her high power is crippled by low atk, her HP and def are among the worst in legendary creatures and due to her miniscule luck, she'll have a hard time applying her powerful debuff. On top of that, her awakenings do nothing to alleviate this.
So, while you have a creature with an amazing special, she is still useless.
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


Supreme Hero
posted April 25, 2017 02:39 PM

WTF just happend to the Fallen Angels? They never were a problem, and now they keep killing my team instantly (all 5 creatures killed with full health)

Did those payed snows just gained some update?

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xexamedes
xexamedes


Adventuring Hero
posted April 25, 2017 03:19 PM
Edited by xexamedes at 15:23, 25 Apr 2017.

Likely the 3 star awakening, gives an aoe strike on kill, also possible you are running into 105 level targets (which will also show as 3 stars).

One thing I have noticed is that if the angel hits and kills a white critter, the subsequent bonus aoe  strike is boosted based on hitting a counter colour regardless of the colours of the rest of the team

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 25, 2017 04:59 PM
Edited by Galaad at 17:11, 25 Apr 2017.

Dulkan said:
So, while you have a creature with an amazing special, she is still useless.


I have no experience with the Succubus but creatures with amazing specials would be broken if they wouldn't be fragile at the same time, it is normal to compensate. I think it is creatures that may be a bit harder to play with, as they die fast or can only shine with their special, but poor raw stats doesn't mean they're useless, it all depends on player's skill and creativity IMO
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