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AlHazin
AlHazin


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posted April 25, 2017 05:20 PM

Plus there are totems that improve the stats significantly. Just imagine LE with awesome stats, he would be overpowered.

Meanwhile I always don't have enough gems whenever there's an event -_-.
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Darkcyber
Darkcyber

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posted April 25, 2017 11:52 PM

Hello, guys. Do you have a problem that game crashed after you attack anyone in dungeon and you receive defeat from that?

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted April 26, 2017 01:08 AM
Edited by Galaad at 02:15, 26 Apr 2017.





Barely made it this time.
Gratz all




Edit: Gotta love it when a regular diamond Idol gives you a Legendary.



So along the Succubus I got two Legendaries tonight.
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slingfox
slingfox

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posted April 26, 2017 07:46 AM

Hi everyone, I started playing Creature Quest five days ago and am really enjoying it.  Instead of buying the new Mass Effect game I bough gems to do two multipack rolls on the ruby machine and got 4 legendaries.  I managed to win my bronze group in the Challenge dungeon by getting over 14k prestige.  I thought this would result in me being placed in Silver this week but they placed me back into Bronze!  Not a bad deal I suppose since my rate for defense was around 10 percent since most of my large, medium and small monsters were level 1-10.

Looking forward to learning more about the game!

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Tress
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posted April 26, 2017 08:19 AM
Edited by Tress at 09:08, 26 Apr 2017.

slingfox said:
Hi everyone, I started playing Creature Quest five days ago and am really enjoying it.  Instead of buying the new Mass Effect game I bough gems to do two multipack rolls on the ruby machine and got 4 legendaries.  I managed to win my bronze group in the Challenge dungeon by getting over 14k prestige.  I thought this would result in me being placed in Silver this week but they placed me back into Bronze!  Not a bad deal I suppose since my rate for defense was around 10 percent since most of my large, medium and small monsters were level 1-10.

Looking forward to learning more about the game!


I am pretty sure league is determined by overall level of player or creatures, to prevent situation that players are steam rolled by level 90 while they struggle with level 60 rares. So probably while your legendaries are still young you will probably be placed in bronze. On other hand that is for the best since even legendaries at the start are not much stronger that rares or epics. as they arent evolved yet , their scaling on low stars is about same, and only their ability is bit
better. With creature level 20 you would probably be steam rolled in silver even by its weakest participant.

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markmasters
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posted April 26, 2017 09:03 AM
Edited by markmasters at 09:08, 26 Apr 2017.

Galaad said:




Barely made it this time.
Gratz all




Edit: Gotta love it when a regular diamond Idol gives you a Legendary.



So along the Succubus I got two Legendaries tonight.


Congrats! Must be lovely to pull a legendary from a random lone idol .

@ slingfox, that are some great deeds in such a short time good job, I think level and creature power indeed may determine your leagues.

@Darkcyber, My phone seems more stable then my tablet, tablet crashes quite randomly too, and yes it will result in a loss often in it happens in a dungeon assault *but you don't lose rating because of that right, just a combat point).

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Dulkan
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posted April 26, 2017 09:04 AM

Not true, Tress. A friend of mine started a few days and had a lvl 190 with a lvl 105 legendary in their group. I really don't know what determines the seeding into the different tiers.


@slingfox
14k with 10% def-rate? How many packs did you spend?
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slingfox
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posted April 26, 2017 09:38 AM

Dulkan said:
Not true, Tress. A friend of mine started a few days and had a lvl 190 with a lvl 105 legendary in their group. I really don't know what determines the seeding into the different tiers.


@slingfox
14k with 10% def-rate? How many packs did you spend?


I think I bought around 15 of those 5 packs of battle points---mostly whenever the special price of 10 rubies popped up.  I lost 20 defenses during my first two days.  Then I rolled the legendaries and people stopped challenging it in my bronze league once I put the red tyrannosaur and blue Stegasaurus As my final two bosses.  In the last 3 days of the season I probably only had 4 people challenge my dungeon in total.  Zero people attempted to fight my dungeon today since most of my league is newbies.

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Tress
Tress


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posted April 26, 2017 10:02 AM

slingfox said:
Dulkan said:
Not true, Tress. A friend of mine started a few days and had a lvl 190 with a lvl 105 legendary in their group. I really don't know what determines the seeding into the different tiers.


@slingfox
14k with 10% def-rate? How many packs did you spend?


I think I bought around 15 of those 5 packs of battle points---mostly whenever the special price of 10 rubies popped up.  I lost 20 defenses during my first two days.  Then I rolled the legendaries and people stopped challenging it in my bronze league once I put the red tyrannosaur and blue Stegasaurus As my final two bosses.  In the last 3 days of the season I probably only had 4 people challenge my dungeon in total.  Zero people attempted to fight my dungeon today since most of my league is newbies.


Its not really useful to do that at this point, 150 crystals might not be that much, but boosting to 14 k on low leagues overkill.

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slingfox
slingfox

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posted April 26, 2017 10:40 AM

Tress said:
slingfox said:
Dulkan said:
Not true, Tress. A friend of mine started a few days and had a lvl 190 with a lvl 105 legendary in their group. I really don't know what determines the seeding into the different tiers.


@slingfox
14k with 10% def-rate? How many packs did you spend?


I think I bought around 15 of those 5 packs of battle points---mostly whenever the special price of 10 rubies popped up.  I lost 20 defenses during my first two days.  Then I rolled the legendaries and people stopped challenging it in my bronze league once I put the red tyrannosaur and blue Stegasaurus As my final two bosses.  In the last 3 days of the season I probably only had 4 people challenge my dungeon in total.  Zero people attempted to fight my dungeon today since most of my league is newbies.


Its not really useful to do that at this point, 150 crystals might not be that much, but boosting to 14 k on low leagues overkill.


I thought last season might be my only real chance of getting one of the top 3 spots so I basically went for broke.  The number two guy ended with 13.5k prestige (one legendary) and the number 3 and little less ( no legendaries at all).  This week's bronze prize is the 3 dot blue hawk.  I already got that to drop from a dungeon so i am not planning to put extra effort into  the challenge.  

On a different topic:  Is the dark elemental or blue pirate in the current event dungeon any good for dungeon defense when leveled up?

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Tress
Tress


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posted April 26, 2017 10:44 AM
Edited by Tress at 11:27, 26 Apr 2017.

slingfox said:
Tress said:
slingfox said:
Dulkan said:
Not true, Tress. A friend of mine started a few days and had a lvl 190 with a lvl 105 legendary in their group. I really don't know what determines the seeding into the different tiers.


@slingfox
14k with 10% def-rate? How many packs did you spend?


I think I bought around 15 of those 5 packs of battle points---mostly whenever the special price of 10 rubies popped up.  I lost 20 defenses during my first two days.  Then I rolled the legendaries and people stopped challenging it in my bronze league once I put the red tyrannosaur and blue Stegasaurus As my final two bosses.  In the last 3 days of the season I probably only had 4 people challenge my dungeon in total.  Zero people attempted to fight my dungeon today since most of my league is newbies.


Its not really useful to do that at this point, 150 crystals might not be that much, but boosting to 14 k on low leagues overkill.


I thought last season might be my only real chance of getting one of the top 3 spots so I basically went for broke.  The number two guy ended with 13.5k prestige (one legendary) and the number 3 and little less ( no legendaries at all).  This week's bronze prize is the 3 dot blue hawk.  I already got that to drop from a dungeon so i am not planning to put extra effort into  the challenge.  

On a different topic:  Is the dark elemental or blue pirate in the current event dungeon any good for dungeon defense when leveled up?


Pirates are favorites for some people. I see them a lot,and if not careful they can delete some red creature. Elemental on other hand is pretty bad on defense, it hits for really low numbers. Light elemental (i presume next weeks event) hits way harder , and alot of people use them. Some guys in my guild mentioned they are nerfed in dungeon defense and i have similar feeling they dont delete my team as fast , but not sure - can someone comment on that. Drop rates on level lower than prince are really bad. EPics rarely drop on sub-prince difficulty, so unless you are lucky you shouldn't count on farming it.

On same topic - do devs ever tweak balance for creatures, as currently seem there is some really op ones (sandworm - not sure if its intended that it can stunlock party to almost death) while some other bosses are barely useful. Also seemingly there is some power creep already looming for added creatures.

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Dardes
Dardes

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posted April 26, 2017 12:21 PM

slingfox said:
Hi everyone, I started playing Creature Quest five days ago and am really enjoying it.  Instead of buying the new Mass Effect game I bough gems to do two multipack rolls on the ruby machine and got 4 legendaries.  I managed to win my bronze group in the Challenge dungeon by getting over 14k prestige.  I thought this would result in me being placed in Silver this week but they placed me back into Bronze!  Not a bad deal I suppose since my rate for defense was around 10 percent since most of my large, medium and small monsters were level 1-10.

Looking forward to learning more about the game!


Wow I am so jealous.. During my playtime I did 6 multi summons and never got a single legendary out of it. Congrats!

Out of my legendary idol from grand wish quests i got the green genie Jann, is he any useful? Don't see any top players with him in their team.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 26, 2017 12:29 PM
Edited by Galaad at 12:30, 26 Apr 2017.

Tress said:
On same topic - do devs ever tweak balance for creatures, as currently seem there is some really op ones (sandworm - not sure if its intended that it can stunlock party to almost death) while some other bosses are barely useful.


I would separate Bosses in two categories, the ones you should put in dungeon defense and the ones you shouldn't. Sandworm hits everyone hard but dies fast and is no threat if you stun it, it dies before it can act then. In comparison with for instance Forest Guardian that can take all my specials straight in their face and still act, potentially one-shooting its counter, I only need one special to get rid of the Sandworm. But like you say, if you let it hit you you better be boosted in your HP otherwise is lethal.
Variety among creatures strength certainly is something I enjoy because of the added variety, but yes devs are tuning, for example the Stegosauraus's defense has been slightly nerfed with last patch.

The only Boss that appeared truly useless to me is the Behemoth, I don't get what's up with him.
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Tress
Tress


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posted April 26, 2017 01:16 PM
Edited by Tress at 13:43, 26 Apr 2017.

Galaad said:
Tress said:
On same topic - do devs ever tweak balance for creatures, as currently seem there is some really op ones (sandworm - not sure if its intended that it can stunlock party to almost death) while some other bosses are barely useful.


I would separate Bosses in two categories, the ones you should put in dungeon defense and the ones you shouldn't. Sandworm hits everyone hard but dies fast and is no threat if you stun it, it dies before it can act then. In comparison with for instance Forest Guardian that can take all my specials straight in their face and still act, potentially one-shooting its counter, I only need one special to get rid of the Sandworm. But like you say, if you let it hit you you better be boosted in your HP otherwise is lethal.
Variety among creatures strength certainly is something I enjoy because of the added variety, but yes devs are tuning, for example the Stegosauraus's defense has been slightly nerfed with last patch.

The only Boss that appeared truly useless to me is the Behemoth, I don't get what's up with him.

Yea - Behemoth is clearly useless , it hits like wet noodle even to counter colors, which i have 2 in my primary team, and i am not bothering to switch anything around. I also kept sludge hulk as my boss in dungeon as didnt had too much alternatives ,and he also is very lacking, and dies easy and his single hit doesnt really delete enemy, of course there are creatures more or less suited for task, but what i mean is that there are some tuned out of proportion even with its peers.
My primary strike team has sludge hulk, which is not nearly enough to cripple him and avoid massive damage if not wipe. Relaying that stun will work or wipe is also very bad strategy (or at least very bad design if that is meant to be its counter). All other creatures I encounter have decent counter , and may maybe guarantee one kill and then die. Worm is clearly over tuned in my opinion. If we compare with creature of same type- medusa who also dies fast, then clearly she is nowhere near as powerful.
Also what i meant with power creep is that they become stronger in way - Archmage is clearly is more preferable target in dungeon than storm giant and so on.

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Out of my legendary idol from grand wish quests i got the green genie Jann, is he any useful? Don't see any top players with him in their team.


All genies are not too good in defense , but they all give very powerful buffs to team, so they compliment rest of team on very strong level.

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted April 26, 2017 01:53 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:06, 26 Apr 2017.

Tress said:
Worm is clearly over tuned in my opinion.


This is not really my impression, as I kill them extremely easy, compare to the tanks that will stun or AoE like Giants, self-heal or even the Phoenix that can revive, etc. For anyone with a Siren in their party Phoenix is ridiculously easy because of the cleansing, but for others like me using a Muse (not cleansing 100% of the time) I need to be very careful and be sure to have sufficient mana on at least stunner and nuker. There is really a lot of things dependable to each other, and with the clearly on purpose differentiation of powers within tiers and various ways to use them, I guess it takes tons of testing to get an accurate vision of the whole thing on that regard.

Galaad said:
dulkan said:
I see, then no, it isn't a requirement. Unless of course, you run lvl 51 without yellows like I do.

IIRC white and black hits her too.


Could finally do another run this morning, actually is comboed creatures that hits her, no matter the color. So the strategy for this wave is: no special with triggered multipliers, then is very easy.
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Tress
Tress


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posted April 26, 2017 01:59 PM

Galaad said:
Tress said:
Worm is clearly over tuned in my opinion.


This is not really my impression, as I kill them extremely easy, compare to the tanks that will stun or AoE like Giants, self-heal or even the Phoenix that can revive, etc. For anyone with a Siren in their party Phoenix is ridiculously easy because of the cleansing, but for others like me using a Muse (not cleansing 100% of the time) I need to be very careful and be sure to have sufficient mana on at least stunner and nuker. There is really a lot of things dependable to each other, and with the clearly on purpose differentiation of powers within tiers and various ways to use them, I guess it takes tons of testing to get an accurate vision of the whole thing on that regard.

creatures that hits her, no matter the color.

Well diference is that phoenix attack explodes after 1 turn for this particular reason - to give ability to counter.If someone would say , i need to kill phoenix or stun it before it cast first attack it would be clearly wrong. Stun is non-relaible enough to not put full fight in hands of chance. Also it clearly is out of tune with creatures of same class like Medusa. BTW what creature you use for stun and how reliable is it. I currently only have walrus and beetle who can stun from epic level creatures, and walrus in my experience was extremely unreliable.

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted April 26, 2017 02:02 PM

Tress said:
BTW what creature you use for stun and how reliable is it.


Forest Guardian, stuns 100% of the time on first use of the special, but two in a row on same creature gets resisted.
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markmasters
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posted April 26, 2017 02:02 PM

@ Tress: I got a 4-dot worm and raised it to level 105 (as it is my only 4 dot legendary) and it has very very very low succesfull defences. It's too squishy, if it is allowed to use his special once it might be good, but it has very low luck thius doesn't resist silence or stun. And the green forest giant (arguably one of the most populair legendaries) stuns and smacks it for like half of it's hp. It's one of those bosses you got to rush down much like the frost dragon I guess.

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Tress
Tress


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posted April 26, 2017 02:17 PM

markmasters said:
@ Tress: I got a 4-dot worm and raised it to level 105 (as it is my only 4 dot legendary) and it has very very very low succesfull defences. It's too squishy, if it is allowed to use his special once it might be good, but it has very low luck thius doesn't resist silence or stun. And the green forest giant (arguably one of the most populair legendaries) stuns and smacks it for like half of it's hp. It's one of those bosses you got to rush down much like the frost dragon I guess.


Well probably the forest guardian is creature that gives good chance of crippling it for good. Currently awakened beetle from easter event, hopefully it can be substitute for it.

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted April 26, 2017 02:45 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:48, 26 Apr 2017.

An excellent alternative to the Forest Guardian is the Treant, very effective tanky silencer, farmable in an Event Quest for full awakening.
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