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Thread: Duel Map Friendly N00b Tourney! This thread is 19 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 · «PREV / NEXT»
Gameslayer989
Gameslayer989


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Always looking for a fight!
posted November 06, 2016 01:48 PM

LordMichal said:
I would hit the "LIKE" button for gameslayer´s story, if I could..

And GG from both!

You can do the next best thing and like my video instead

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Palingenesis
Palingenesis


Hired Hero
posted November 06, 2016 03:37 PM
Edited by Palingenesis at 15:39, 06 Nov 2016.

dredknight said:
Not much has changed I see. Necro and fortress are still op races.


I wouldn't necessarily say so. I think in the match between me and gameslayer, the result would have been a lot closer if he didn't have swift mind and counterspell. My strategy was highly magic-oriented and my army was a fish out of water when that failed.
I initially thought that Dungeon with destructive magic might be overpowered on this map. However, I'm starting to find ways to beat them now, even though those sometimes need very specific strategies. Nonetheless, I still don't quite know what to do with light magic in this map version after the nerfing of some of the most potent spells.

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dredknight
dredknight


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disrupting the moding industry
posted November 06, 2016 04:24 PM

Actually a lot of the things made for this map are unknown to me because skills are quite redistributed but the sole fact berserk is still participating in spellboks is disturbing. If you did casted berserk instead of puppet you would have beaten him even faster because it lasts more time than puppet and you can cast other spells meanwhile.



Also I am not completely sure what are the prerequisites for Counterspell but if it is anything less than a tier 3 perk this is ridcuolous because you have an ability to counter the opponent spell 100% of the time.

Actually I may join another tourney if there is one.
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


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Supreme Hero
Approaching meltdown
posted November 06, 2016 04:25 PM

Not joining the tourney, but if you guys want a friendly match, drop me an HCM. The_Polyglot on Gameranger, Poly Glot on Skype.
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Gameslayer989
Gameslayer989


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posted November 06, 2016 04:42 PM

dredknight said:
Actually a lot of the things made for this map are unknown to me because skills are quite redistributed but the sole fact berserk is still participating in spellboks is disturbing. If you did casted berserk instead of puppet you would have beaten him even faster because it lasts more time than puppet and you can cast other spells meanwhile.



Also I am not completely sure what are the prerequisites for Counterspell but if it is anything less than a tier 3 perk this is ridcuolous because you have an ability to counter the opponent spell 100% of the time.

Actually I may join another tourney if there is one.

It's certainly not the best system in terms of conveyance, but in this map you can right click a skill and get what it unlocks. Yes counter spell is tier3. Puppet master was better in my opinion than berserk. Sure berserk lasts 2 turns compared to 1.7 from puppet master, but those 2 turns come by a lot quicker because puppet master also heavily slows the target creature. I didn't care much about it attacking stuff, I just wanted it not to do anything. I also was going to have creatures nearby it, don't want to give him any room to move creature somehow so mine are the closest.

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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


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posted November 06, 2016 04:56 PM

Im around for the next few hours for some duels

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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Approaching meltdown
posted November 06, 2016 05:16 PM

We can duel some, I'm available
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LordMichal
LordMichal


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posted November 06, 2016 06:36 PM

Im free to play, let me know

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markkur
markkur


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Once upon a time
posted November 06, 2016 06:45 PM

Thank you Gameslayer989 & Palingenesis.

Enjoyed the match.

*******

Nice work {as usual} with the T-Map Elvin.

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Aionb
Aionb


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posted November 06, 2016 06:46 PM
Edited by Aionb at 18:58, 06 Nov 2016.

I can play. Hamachi or Aionb on GameRanger (Jim B on Skype)

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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted November 06, 2016 07:16 PM
Edited by DIEGIS at 22:16, 06 Nov 2016.

i played 3 games today:
1. vs Lord Michal (me dungeon vs dwarves) He won ; he also randomed me not (stupid me)
2. vs The Green Dragon (all random this time); me inferno, he heaven, I won (we both randomed)
3. vs Aionb (both randomed) Me-sylvan; Aionb-necro; I won;

PS: all saves at our master Elvin
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Aionb
Aionb


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posted November 06, 2016 10:23 PM
Edited by Aionb at 22:25, 06 Nov 2016.

I got my ass kicked twice today, both random:
Heaven vs. Palingenesis = Fortress
Necro vs. Diegis = Sylvan

There were some mistakes vs. Palingenesis but the dumb things I did vs. Diegis were beyond belief )

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted November 06, 2016 10:26 PM

Replays?
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Palingenesis
Palingenesis


Hired Hero
posted November 06, 2016 10:27 PM

My replay with AionB is here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5TJEcnIfLFbVUZ4anhfUGV6VTQ
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LordMichal
LordMichal


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posted November 07, 2016 08:24 AM

DIEGIS said:
i played 3 games today:
1. vs Lord Michal (me dungeon vs dwarves) He won ; he also randomed me not (stupid me)

Nice and long game here! Cause of light magic nerf I went for summon and bought Arcane armour (didn´t buy phenix as well, cause I didnt know that resources are going to reset after the final portal, stupid me... ). Diegis went for powerfull combo of destruction and summon.

Looking forward to next games

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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted November 07, 2016 08:45 AM
Edited by Elvin at 08:45, 07 Nov 2016.

LordMichal said:
My only real concern is the change to mass spells. It was made by a good reason like that in 3.1 and I think changing it is a mistake.

I might have found a solution to that, one that concerns everyone

I found that I can tweak a number of crucial things by replacing the game's exe by an edited exe(and of course return the game to its original state by replacing it with a backed up exe).

This way I could:

1) Eliminate starting atb that can range from 0-25%. While rare, this may allow 8 init units to play before 10 init units!

2) Make mass spells cost more initiative but affect all units again.

3) Improve tent healing by x hp per level.



If the majority agrees to use that exe, we could use it in the next phase or perhaps a second tourney(I would of course provide an exe backup with that). Speaking of which, 4 people will move on to the next phase. Would the other 4 be interested in a CUP OF THE FALLEN?

I haven't decided on the details but I could make this a chaos cup with no artifact/spell bans if you want If kiryu agrees we might add a cherry on top, other than the badge of chaos achievement.




dredknight said:
Also I am not completely sure what are the prerequisites for Counterspell but if it is anything less than a tier 3 perk this is ridcuolous because you have an ability to counter the opponent spell 100% of the time.

Actually I may join another tourney if there is one.


Hey dredknight, we would be happy to have you I made counterspell easier to get because it is honestly too situational to use effectively. For one, unit spells can trigger it so at worst the hero can wait and then cast normally. Second, any hero with sorcery will play first in the next action just by casting a spell. If he also has a mass spell he'll play real soon, as if he had simply waited. Third, it eats up a lot of your mana so it can be bypassed if the opponent has less than double your spell's mana cost.



@markkur

Cheers friend




Will check replays and update the matchups later in the day, work work!
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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted November 07, 2016 09:00 AM

Please no changes mid-tournament, that's just bad conduct.
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dredknight
dredknight


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disrupting the moding industry
posted November 07, 2016 10:02 AM

@Elvin, I will join the next one.

I would advise you not to change the tent. Armies are not that big so it makes a good damage as it is now.

Keep the other changes for the next tourney people just started learning the map.

Cheers!
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zaio-baio
zaio-baio


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 07, 2016 01:08 PM

And i will join too, if we play a map without spell/skill/unit changes.
Its possible to have balanced matchups by giving free arts/gold to the weaker faction.

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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted November 07, 2016 01:17 PM

yes, no changes now!
keep all changes for next...more ideas will occur eventualy;
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