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| frostymuaddib 
  
    
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|  posted September 30, 2016 06:55 PM |  |  |  
 
| I thought Ashan vamps are Arthas ripoff? ____________
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| Gryphs 
  
   
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|  posted September 30, 2016 06:55 PM |  |  |  
 
| GenyaArikado said:Well, yeah, HOMM used to be about mixing stereotypical fantasy creatures not Erwin's fantastic imaginary world."vampire venom replacing their blood"
 
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| GenyaArikado 
  
  
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|  posted September 30, 2016 11:48 PM |  |  |  
 
| @Galaad by making them understandable? Lol 
 @Frosty idk but i have seen the "twilight ripoff vampire" here plenty. Probably regarding the entire race and not just the H6 unit
 
 @Gryphs I know what you are doing but well, if you wanna get technical the twilight is the new sterotypical vampire....
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| Galaad 
  
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 Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
 
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|  posted October 01, 2016 12:00 AM |  |  |  
 
| Added some spacing, looks fine to me. ____________
 
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| Momo 
  
    
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|  posted October 01, 2016 02:13 AM |  |  |  
 
| frostymuaddib said:I thought Ashan vamps are Arthas ripoff?
 
 
 Yeah, I mean honestly, they barely have anything in common with Twilight vampires. Though I've got to admit I'm not an expert in the field of Twilight.
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| Galaad 
  
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|  posted October 02, 2016 12:41 PM |  |  |  
 
| Added Chronicles texts to the OP, thanks Zamfir. ____________
 
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| Galaad 
  
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| AlHazin 
  
    
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 النور
 
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|  posted January 04, 2017 02:41 PM |  |  |  
 
| Galaad said:[...]for those interested...
 
 
 Oh thanks Galaad, I'll take a look at it.
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| Galaad 
  
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 Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
 
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|  posted January 05, 2017 05:29 PM |  |  |  
 
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| Karmakeld 
  
     
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|  posted February 03, 2017 09:21 PM |  |  |  
 
| EnergyZ said:Yeah, but these stories were finished. All what it took was just to use the editor and make the maps, right?
 
 
 I know this was posted a while back, but as it seems neither Frosty or Verriker, posted anything about it, I thought I might as well do it. A group of fans are planning to make those two campaigns (Unity and Every Dog has it's Day) for H4.
 
 
 verriker said:these campaigns were cut because they didn't play very well and they ran out of spare time to improve them lol
 
 
 Bullard said:We did have them planned as campaigns, but started to run out of time and had to cut them. If I remember correctly they were supposed to be a love story.
 
 
 
 Bullard said:At the end of the development cycle when we start running out of time we have to cut maps. The decision is usually based on how well the map plays and then how much time it would take to fix. Those two maps didn't play well and we needed to cut them to polish the main story maps.
 
 
 
 Interesting, that it appears they had in fact made them as campaigns, but had to cut them..
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| Sligneris 
  
   
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|  posted April 04, 2017 02:14 AM |  |  |  
 
| One thing that's somewhat confusing me as far as Ashan lore goes is a simple question - to what extent can succubi camouflage themselves? 
 From H6 onward, it appears that while camouflage is their natural ability, the only appearance they are able to take is that of their former selves. In contrast, in H5, Biara is seen taking numerous forms, more akin to a Faceless - Beatrice, Shadya, Isabel. One of which required a piece of the original person's soul to be stored in a temple in order to sustain the illusion, mind you.
 
 Has there been any explanation regarding this ability that I had missed? I mean, there definitely wasn't any in H5, but it wouldn't be the first time when new material puts some stuff from H5 into some much needed context - so any input there would be welcome.
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| Avonu 
  
     
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|  posted April 04, 2017 12:38 PM |  |  |  
 
| The Demon Sovereign, the Prophecy of Sar-Shazzar, and the Dark Messiah By Jeff Spock, Writer, and Erwan Le Breton, World Coordinator
 
 
 Quote:in 951 YSD a child named Isabel, heir to the Greyhound duchy, grows up in ignorance of a Demon protector that lurks nearby.
 Twenty years later, at the culmination of the eclipse that led to Queen Isabel's War, the queen herself is kidnapped and forced to bear a child to the Demon Sovereign. The child disappears to be raised for another twenty years under the protective eyes of Demon worshippers.
 
 King Alexei's soul is stolen and in 971 YSD its power is used to bring a succubus to Ashan; a succubus named Biara who arrives at a moment when she can take the place of the true Isabel. The real queen remains lost in the wastes of Sheogh with her protector, Raelag...
 
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| Elvin 
  
       
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 Endless Revival
 
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|  posted April 04, 2017 12:44 PM |  |  |  
 
| Biara had the power to ignore plot holes even without that special skill. ____________
 H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
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| LizardWarrior 
  
      
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 the reckoning is at hand
 
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|  posted April 04, 2017 12:45 PM |  |  |  
 
| Hey, guys, what's an Ashan?   ____________
 
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| Antalyan 
  
    
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|  posted April 04, 2017 05:23 PM |  |  |  
 
| Sligneris said:One thing that's somewhat confusing me as far as Ashan lore goes is a simple question - to what extent can succubi camouflage themselves?
 
 From H6 onward, it appears that while camouflage is their natural ability, the only appearance they are able to take is that of their former selves. In contrast, in H5, Biara is seen taking numerous forms, more akin to a Faceless - Beatrice, Shadya, Isabel. One of which required a piece of the original person's soul to be stored in a temple in order to sustain the illusion, mind you.
 
 Has there been any explanation regarding this ability that I had missed? I mean, there definitely wasn't any in H5, but it wouldn't be the first time when new material puts some stuff from H5 into some much needed context - so any input there would be welcome.
 
 I suppose Biara had either special skills (really powerful even for succubi) or they have quite developed during the centuries.
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| Elvin 
  
       
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|  posted April 04, 2017 05:46 PM |  |  |  
 
| Or Ashan had not developed enough at the time. ____________
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|  posted April 04, 2017 06:22 PM |  |  |  
 
| Well, as much as I like modern references to H5, trying to look at H5 itself for canon material usually ends up only bringing some godawful writing and more confusion in return. 
 Like I mentioned earlier, Biara's ability probably had something to do with Isabel's spirit being kept in Flammschrein. Though how Isabel's body was walking among the living and communicating with people while lacking a soul is the confusing part. Did Raelag even realize he had a soulless, amnesiac husk as a partner?
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| verriker 
  
      
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|  posted April 04, 2017 07:21 PM |  |  |  
 
| Sligneris said:body was walking among the living and communicating with people while lacking a soul is the confusing part
 
 
 hey I remember you lol
 
 how have you been, you were not around when Erwin's empire of dirt fell down cheers lol
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| Sligneris 
  
   
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|  posted April 05, 2017 12:10 AM |  |  |  
 
| I figured I would check how the franchise and its community have been, with H7 and an expansion pack released and all. 
 Not much changed I see.
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| AlHazin 
  
    
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 النور
 
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|  posted April 05, 2017 12:22 AM |  |  |  
 
| Galaad said:You?
  
 
 Forgive the delay dude hahahaha
 
 That was a joke by the way. ^^
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