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Thread: Secrets of destruction revealed - playing Dungeon faction | This thread is pages long: 1 ... 7 8 9 10 11 ... 20 30 40 50 60 61 · «PREV / NEXT» |
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ZombieLord

  
   
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posted April 20, 2007 05:20 PM |
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As far as I know, 1.5 will improve the AI in such a way that it will make a difference between summoned and non-summoned units. I wonder if the Titans will attack your stack of 1 creature then?
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TheDeath

   
      
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posted April 20, 2007 05:26 PM |
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Skill is the opposite of abuse. 
Taking advantage of game weaknesses = 
Do you think you prove anything or deserve your title by abusing?
If a map had a "hole" in it, would you abuse it? As a honorable person, I would tell my opponent about the hole and fix it next time we play the map (with the editor), or simply ignore it.
No it's not fun to win. It's fun to play nice.
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ChaosDragon

 
   
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posted April 20, 2007 07:56 PM |
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@TheDeath: Agree with you. 
Btw, doesn't this thread used to discuss dungeon strategy? (now it's off topic)
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TheDeath

   
      
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posted April 20, 2007 08:03 PM |
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Quote: Btw, doesn't this thread used to discuss dungeon strategy? (now it's off topic)
just as are almost all threads around here 
you couldn't imagine through which threads did luck discussion went.
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ZombieLord

  
   
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posted April 20, 2007 08:07 PM |
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You can't imagine what the Academy MMR review (by 86wyp) has gone through
All threads with more than 3 pages are certainly off-topic (maybe there are a little exceptions)
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ChaosDragon

 
   
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posted April 20, 2007 08:13 PM |
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Yeah, it seems both you guys say is true.
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kingdon1975

 
 
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posted April 22, 2007 06:05 AM |
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Quote: I must say something which may be controversial. I generally don't build lvl 5 mage guild. Boosted area spells work much better. Don't need implosion most of times. (i can imagine some situation that may be very good tho, its just that most of times other things are better). Besides u still have 50% chance to get armagedon which is useless
Now Im gonna get controversial. If you got "crystal shield of ice" and some sort of magical resistance armageddon can be very useful,if used at the right time.
Good thread btw,some good info here
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Beowolf

 
 
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posted April 22, 2007 10:13 AM |
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One question while we're at resistance - does irresistible magic cut through "magic proof" and "immune to magic" only or it includes elemental immunities and elemental protection artifacts?
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sdfx

 
   
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posted April 22, 2007 11:19 AM |
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Edited by sdfx at 11:22, 22 Apr 2007.
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Yes, at expert IR half of the damage goes through. Magic protection is halved: so if a stack has 66% protection it will have only 33% protection.
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feluniozbunio

  
    
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posted April 22, 2007 01:30 PM |
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Quote: quote:I must say something which may be controversial. I generally don't build lvl 5 mage guild. Boosted area spells work much better. Don't need implosion most of times. (i can imagine some situation that may be very good tho, its just that most of times other things are better). Besides u still have 50% chance to get armagedon which is useless
Now Im gonna get controversial. If you got "crystal shield of ice" and some sort of magical resistance armageddon can be very useful,if used at the right time.
Good thread btw,some good info here
OK i was exaggerating things a little bit. Armageddon is not completely useless. However your shield does not do much because you pierce through it which means it gives you only 25% resistance.
Armageddon strategies i found useful lately are this.
Dungeon is very sneaky town and Armageddon strategies perfectly fits to that picture. Remember good old Armageddon bombs? You develop new hero, when he has exp destructive magic you just go end kamikaze yourself. I am always too lazy to do those kind of tricks but it can be a good way to gain advantage over opponent.
The trick which i did few times is start developing secondary hero. When he gets an adequate lvl you give him some artifacts from main hero. Then your hero goes to fight opponents main hero. You probably dont want to take all your stacks with you for this fight. Than you armageddon everything on the battlefield. You both lose your heroes but you are left with your secondary hero which is already quite a fighter and he has some good artifacts and you have additional stack (which you didnt take to final fight with your opponent). You just must be sure that when you Armageddon both heroes WILL die, you dont want to kill yourself only , do you ?
Having 75 resistance (ice shield+hammer) + armageddon may be viable strategy. But you must really do some calculations. Its very possible to use this combo but very dangerous too. Warlocks Armageddon can be very powerful, perhaps its good balance choice that its racial pierce through own resistance.
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ZombieLord

  
   
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posted April 22, 2007 01:34 PM |
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If you kill everything with Armaggedon, including your own units, you WIN the battle, but your hero has no more creatures left... This means the hero WILL be available at your tavern (trust me, I tested)
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feluniozbunio

  
    
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posted April 22, 2007 01:40 PM |
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lol are you sure? What about opponents hero?
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ZombieLord

  
   
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posted April 22, 2007 01:41 PM |
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I don't know... I guess it's you who won the battle, so he should die
Although I heard from somewhere that both of the heroes will be available at the respective tavern... hope it's not true
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feluniozbunio

  
    
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posted April 22, 2007 01:42 PM |
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I have a save from that game so i think i will be able to check it soon.
OMG i havent even looked to the tavern but it may be true because i gained artifacts from my opponent so i think i will be able to buy my hero and he will not , this is going to be awesome Raising Armageddons quality by 1000%
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sdfx

 
   
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posted April 22, 2007 02:26 PM |
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"The enemy has been defeated
The hero won this battle but lost
his army. You can find him in the tavern
now.
Your hero gains XXX exp."
That's ridiculous
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feluniozbunio

  
    
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posted April 22, 2007 02:29 PM |
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radicluous? THIS IS DUNGEON  
lol
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betruger

 
  
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posted April 22, 2007 02:35 PM |
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haha, yes, I found it the hard way playing vs Ghasteater. Actually, it was hard way for him, as he was on the receiving end of armaggedon. I just wanted to kill both our heroes, because he had superior one, and I ended up winning the game
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Doomforge

     
      
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posted April 22, 2007 02:51 PM |
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Yes, but you have to be sure that you'll survive the process. I mean, dungeon usually has less than the opponent, so you may end burining your own troops to death before you cremate your enemy.
Although if you can get -50% firedam protection arties and maybe some resistance arties/skill aswell, I'd rather pray for arma in the guild, yes Taking all those merchants in towns and maps, it shouldn't be too hard at all. Like getting slippers if you really want them.
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feluniozbunio

  
    
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posted April 22, 2007 02:52 PM |
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I just got a game vs Zilonite where we took a draw after Armageddon... didn't know my hero was alive
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Doomforge

     
      
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posted April 22, 2007 02:54 PM |
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To be honest I was not aware of that fact too.
Yeah, that makes a huge difference for us warlocks..      
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