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Thread: Secrets of destruction revealed - playing Dungeon faction This thread is 61 pages long: 1 ... 5 6 7 8 9 ... 10 20 30 40 50 60 61 · «PREV / NEXT»
Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted April 18, 2007 10:20 AM

excelent I see you've mastered the warlock creeping. Good job

See guys? It's not much less potent than MMR.

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betruger
betruger


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empowered mind
posted April 18, 2007 02:23 PM

Ok, since we are showing off our early breaks now, I'll show you a game where I wanted to test how soon can I break on Battle For Honor.

Week 2 day 4 breaking through my side.
Week 3 day 4 breaking through opponent's devils.

Take a look:




If you're interested in details here's the whole screenshot package:

http://rapidshare.com/files/26633904/BfH_how_soon_can_I_break.rar.html

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted April 18, 2007 02:27 PM

that's indeed great.

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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posted April 18, 2007 02:47 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 14:52, 18 Apr 2007.

Hehe i knew my score is nothing i can boast about

Btw good job Betruger All in all you are one of the best Hopefully I will catch you in Lords soon. Too bad i need to get back to my studies for quite some time now.

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Pomo
Pomo


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The lone peasant
posted April 18, 2007 04:07 PM

That's very impressive indeed. So do you take much experience from chests to level up quickly before the first break?
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86wyp
86wyp


Adventuring Hero
posted April 18, 2007 04:58 PM

It seems that no one ever has a fight with academy in 2 weeks on BFH.








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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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posted April 18, 2007 05:04 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 17:13, 18 Apr 2007.

Lol didn't i tell you that academy is broken? haha and nobody was listening to me

Ok that gets us to a point where we await of first week breakthrough Whos up for this task? ( i guess with a small dose of luck wyp could be 2 days faster)
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86wyp
86wyp


Adventuring Hero
posted April 18, 2007 05:14 PM
Edited by 86wyp at 17:17, 18 Apr 2007.

To break in one week I would try necropolis. or sylvan..(seriously)

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feluniozbunio
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posted April 18, 2007 05:19 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 17:20, 18 Apr 2007.

Um i know that necro are good creepers but sylvan? Not that i am any good with sylvan but i wouldn't have an idea how to start even.
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sdfx
sdfx


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posted April 18, 2007 05:30 PM

Like I said, Nur is the best hero for dungeon What is worse Nur doesn't need all those wells at all.. remember she is nerfed A LOT here compared to other heroes because ther heroes DO need all those wells.
Cmon, it can be worse. You can get Havez and Nur at the begining which would allow both of them to break SIMULTANOUSLY One(Havez + Gremlins) through devils, other(Nur and fodder) through titans. Quite ridiculous, isn't it? Of course, I'm not saying anyone should break simultanousy, I'm only saying that it's possible.

And yeah, Nur is the best hero for Necropolis too. No morale panalties, no need for "suffering" to get mana.

How to start with Sylvan? Unless it's restarting till you get Nur or a war machine hero in tavern I dunno
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86wyp
86wyp


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posted April 18, 2007 05:31 PM

Quote:
Um i know that necro are good creepers but sylvan? Not that i am any good with sylvan but i wouldn't have an idea how to start even.


No sylvan are not so good in creeping...but there are exceptions..on this map. refugee camp and pyramid might make a difference.I am not sure though.

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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posted April 18, 2007 05:33 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 17:39, 18 Apr 2007.

Meh here we go again. Please quit this Nur worshiping.

wyp:Yeah, with phoenix perhaps you may have some(?)chances. Could you say how did you kill those titans?
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sdfx
sdfx


Famous Hero
posted April 18, 2007 05:45 PM

I'll try to guess. Mass slow or/and mass deflect missle, Elementals, Phoenix?
AI will shot elementals as long as it kills >1. Simply killing 1 or more elemental seems "better" for AI than single fodders. So, sometimes deflect on elementals can be bad.

I'm only saying that Nur isn't really fair.
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Doomforge
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posted April 18, 2007 05:50 PM

Quote:
Meh here we go again. Please quit this Nur worshiping.

wyp:Yeah, with phoenix perhaps you may have some(?)chances. Could you say how did you kill those titans?


to be honest anyone can do it; it's a simple exploit of AI's dumbness. Yes, with a lot of 1-unit fodder stacks, the AI will target your summons, and you can protect them with deflect missle or simply recast the spell. Naw, phoenix+motw+phantom = 3 phoenixes, need to say more? There are many tricks to do here, to be honest, but all of them are not about player's skill, but about exploting the bad AI. Nur is perfect here cuz she starts with eldritch arrow, has extremely important sorcery from the beginning and has that mana-recovering spell. So, she can, say, get a phoenix, motw it, phantom force, motw 1 stack of titans and wasp swarm them to death while phoenixes are doing their job, or something similiar. The point is she has enough mana to do it.

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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Supreme Hero
posted April 18, 2007 05:54 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 17:55, 18 Apr 2007.

Nur is great of course and his ability is much more powerful than other heroes(except wygnal maybe). But still i dont see him in dungeon faction. About academy creeping, I think that jhora and havez can do it too.
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86wyp
86wyp


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posted April 18, 2007 06:01 PM

Quote:
Meh here we go again. Please quit this Nur worshiping.

wyp:Yeah, with phoenix perhaps you may have some(?)chances. Could you say how did you kill those titans?


Well, I didn't do thatSomeone else named dwaynew28 did. When we got this map, players tried to break through as fast as possible. And this is the best record for academy, though she learned expert logistics on day8 so it could be faster.

For killing titans. Get a tent or any warmachine, the titans will call their lightenings on them(actually I think that's a bug because the warchines can be hit by lightening spell but are immune to titan's call lightening).

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted April 18, 2007 06:04 PM

see? I said it's all about AI's stupidity

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86wyp
86wyp


Adventuring Hero
posted April 18, 2007 06:06 PM

Actually it is possible to kill titans on day 1.

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sdfx
sdfx


Famous Hero
posted April 18, 2007 06:08 PM

Strange, titans shoot my ballista with a regular attack. Phantom can't be cast on a phoenix. Tier is too high.
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86wyp
86wyp


Adventuring Hero
posted April 18, 2007 06:10 PM
Edited by 86wyp at 18:12, 18 Apr 2007.

Quote:
see? I said it's all about AI's stupidity


You know, when playing chess, clever players win by finding and making use of the opponent's stupidity. This is all about skill.

To sdfx: they need to be blocked of course.

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