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xerox
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posted August 09, 2008 01:45 PM |
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Why return to the old worlds?
Ubisoft or Nival clearly stated that they dont want to return to the old world because they got confused with the storyline and were afraid to make lots of errors.
They also wanted to attract new players to the HoMM series so that they didnt need to play HoMM 1 to 4 and read all the novels to understand that Angels are machines and demons insectoids.
There are several reasons to orginal idea of have HoMM5 in Axeoth got totally scrapped and I still dont accept LOTA as official material... I dont care if Ubisoft likes it, its still not a official expansion from them.
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Drako_the_noob
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posted August 09, 2008 01:45 PM |
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VOID (Might and Magic 2)...
That's CRON actually.
Oh, sorry...
Then VOID is Might and Magic 1, yes?
WE shoud return to CRON  It would be cool. Or to Terra. I always loved the Terra's world map.
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Cepheus
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posted August 09, 2008 01:49 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 14:24, 09 Aug 2008.
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Why return to the old worlds?
Story wasn't finished. What if Heroes VI is in a whole new world with no connection to Ashan? I bet you wouldn't be too happy to find the entire storyline of Ashan ignored with no final resolution given.
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They also wanted to attract new players to the HoMM series so that they didnt need to play HoMM 1 to 4 and read all the novels to understand that Angels are machines and demons insectoids.
All the novels? Insectoid demons? *laughs uncontrollably*
Please name these novels and show me where you can purchase them, I've never heard of them... I thought we were talking about videogames 
I'd better start reading all the Ashan novels so that I can finally understand what "Mal-Beleth" is and how many sovereigns there were
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and I still dont accept LOTA as official material... I dont care if Ubisoft likes it, its still not a official expansion from them.
No offence, but since when were you in a position to judge what's official and what's not...? Especially when you don't even know anything about the old storyline whatsoever:
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I thougt that the old storyline was to confusing and to long. I always get confused when i try to do the H3 campaign.
The old storyline is just to long and you have to read lots of long books to understand it to 100%.
It might be a little hard to accept at first, but just because Ubi can't understand the old storyline doesn't mean they don't approve of its continuation 
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Then VOID is Might and Magic 1, yes?
No, that's VARN.
*sniffs the air, detecting a quote-lore-war on the horizon*
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"Those who forget their history are inevitably doomed to repeat it." —Proverb, Might and Magic VIII
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xerox
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posted August 09, 2008 03:55 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 15:55, 09 Aug 2008.
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Story wasn't finished. What if Heroes VI is in a whole new world with no connection to Ashan? I bet you wouldn't be too happy to find the entire storyline of Ashan ignored with no final resolution given.
Then you still would not be happy because its not set in the old worlds
But still there is no point to make a new world when they already have one to develop.
There was lots of reasons to leave the old worlds but there is no reason to leave Ashan as long as Ubisoft or Nival makes the games (which they probably will, since it gave them much money although they might make it a mmorpg or dark messiah game).
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All the novels? Insectoid demons? *laughs uncontrollably*
Please name these novels and show me where you can purchase them, I've never heard of them... I thought we were talking about videogames
I'd better start reading all the Ashan novels so that I can finally understand what "Mal-Beleth" is and how many sovereigns there were
I suppose you were ironic but if not then...
LOL, you dont understand Ashan history? Its so easy and its not even slighlty complex
It fits perfectly to attract new players.
And maybe I was wrong, I though there were books about the old world and that the Kreegans society was similar to insects.
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No offence, but since when were you in a position to judge what's official and what's not...? Especially when you don't even know anything about the old storyline whatsoever:
My knowledge of the old storyline doesnt have anything to do with what I said
You can download LOTA free, you dont buy it in stores its not even known among most fans.
It just some old world fanboys that created a very high quality campaign that contiuned from Heroes 4.
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Cepheus
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posted August 09, 2008 07:40 PM |
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Then you still would not be happy because its not set in the old worlds
Bingo. I don't recall having ever said "let's drop Ashan and forget it ever existed".
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But still there is no point to make a new world when they already have one to develop.
There was lots of reasons to leave the old worlds but there is no reason to leave Ashan
From Wikipedia: An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or, more rarely, oxymora) is a figure of speech that combines two normally contradictory terms.
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There was lots of reasons to leave the old worlds
Go ahead and elaborate on this, but please don't use the argument "it's too complex, I don't like complex stories, they're just not for me", and try not to say "this / that makes no sense" while you're at it 
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I suppose you were ironic but if not then...
Well actually I was slightly serious. For example:
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Instead, the name of Mal-Beleth, the new and only Demon Sovereign, appears.
1. I was under the impression that his name was Kha-Beleth.
2. If this is not a major typo, then it's another contradiction, because he's "the new and only Sovereign.
3. Oh but wait, let's look here:
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Ur-Vesphaal is the former Demon capital, first the residence and later the mausoleum of the current Sovereign’s predecessor. When the Sovereign killed him and moved the seat of power away, Ur-Vesphaal was slowly taken over by what was left of the competing army -- succubae. Now it’s their town.
Right. So how many "new and only Demon Sovereigns" were there again...?
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LOL, you dont understand Ashan history? Its so easy and its not even slighlty complex
Which is the problem. I prefer to play games with stories that involve the use of multiple brain cells, not watered-down rubbish coupled with recycled Restoration War plotlines. And LOL, Ashan history contradicts itself more than once, what an improvement over the other worlds
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And maybe I was wrong, I though there were books about the old world and that the Kreegans society was similar to insects.
Both are correct, however there are only two books (which are set on their own planet) and the Kreegans have a society similar to that of insects, but are not insectoids 
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My knowledge of the old storyline doesnt have anything to do with what I said
You can download LOTA free, you dont buy it in stores its not even known among most fans.
Neither are the game's patches Anyway, nobody's trying to argue that it isn't fan-made (so is the Dark Messiah map for TotE, after all). The point is that Ubi approves 
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"Those who forget their history are inevitably doomed to repeat it." —Proverb, Might and Magic VIII
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xerox
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posted August 09, 2008 08:42 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 20:43, 09 Aug 2008.
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You need to give Ashan some time. Do you expect all new universes to have SUPER HUGE and rich storyline and background from the begining?
Im quite sure that Heroes I didnt have super rich story either.
REASONS TO LEAVE THE OLD WORLD
1. New fans will be able to enjoy and understand the story.
2. Ubisoft were afraid to screw up things and do lots of errors.
3. They were confused with the old storyline (this could be moved to point 2 but i like to exaggerate stuff)
4. The Might & Magic fans would be even more annoying and angry because the Ubisoft would make a H5 based in the old universe suck and it would be totally loltarded if they worked on the old storyline...
And the most obvious of all.
6. Ubisoft has said several times that they DONT want to make ANY connection to the old world(s).
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1. I was under the impression that his name was Kha-Beleth.
2. If this is not a major typo, then it's another contradiction, because he's "the new and only Sovereign.
3. Oh but wait, let's look here:
I agree that they made a mistake, but everybody does. In my opinon there were six sovereigns (one to rule them all) to counter the six elemental dragons (who are awesome btw).
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Both are correct, however there are only two books (which are set on their own planet) and the Kreegans have a society similar to that of insects, but are not insectoids
Look I was right, there are novels
And I think you misunderstood, I meant that they have insectoid like society etc and are very similar to them.
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Neither are the game's patches Anyway, nobody's trying to argue that it isn't fan-made (so is the Dark Messiah map for TotE, after all). The point is that Ubi approves
It not the same thing
The map is based on Dark Messiah, which already exists - the events of LotA is not recorded in any other game that has been made by Ubisoft.
And patches is made by Ubisoft - LoTA is not.
I dont know what your hoping for when its totally 0% chance that we will return to the old world.
You cant do anything about it.
HoMM has moved on. Ubisoft has clearly stated that they dont want to return to the old world several times.
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Cepheus
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posted August 09, 2008 09:05 PM |
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Im quite sure that Heroes I didnt have super rich story either.
In fact, it did to an extent. I'm quite certain that this is where the term "RTFM" really does come into play.
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1. New fans will be able to enjoy and understand the story.
I definitely enjoyed and understood Heroes III's storyline back in 1999, having never played a Might and Magic game before then. And I was around nine years old, so...
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2. Ubisoft were afraid to screw up things and do lots of errors.
3. They were confused with the old storyline (this could be moved to point 2 but i like to exaggerate stuff)
Viable point.
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4. The Might & Magic fans would be even more annoying and angry because the Ubisoft would make a H5 based in the old universe suck and it would be totally loltarded if they worked on the old storyline...
Just like the, er, "loltarded" H5 vanilla one we have already, which was based on the Heroes III storyline?
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I agree...
Woot, agreement!
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...that they made a mistake, but everybody does.
 Yeah, even professionals who are employed and paid exclusively to create consistent storylines.
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In my opinon there were six sovereigns (one to rule them all) to counter the six elemental dragons (who are awesome btw).
Six Demon Overlords, not Demon Sovereigns.
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Look I was right, there are novels
Two novels are not lots of novels, as you stated. Besides, Warcraft has novels and you seem to "understand it to 100%".
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And I think you misunderstood, I meant that they have insectoid like society etc and are very similar to them.
Well, you said "demons insectoids", so it's difficult not to misunderstand. Plus they're not that similar, only their social hierarchy and (some of) their breeding patterns.
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I dont know what your hoping for when its totally 0% chance that we will return to the old world.
Which one of them?
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You cant do anything about it.
I wouldn't be so sure.  Obviously I don't want Ubi to pick it up. What do you take me for?
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HoMM has moved on. Ubisoft has clearly stated that they dont want to return to the old world several times.
Yeah, they also stated:
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Axeoth with Enroth, Erathia, Jadame, Cheh'dian, etc.)
...how mistaken can you get 
Anyway I'm done with the pointless argument regime for the moment, have a nice night and write anything further you like but I probably won't be replying
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xerox
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posted August 09, 2008 10:24 PM |
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Good then the useless spam can stop that is totally based around peoples own opinions.
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In fact, it did to an extent. I'm quite certain that this is where the term "RTFM" really does come into play.
Okey I did some research and guess what I found out...
That most reveiws though that Heroes Is storyline was short, not complex and very poor.
In addition I read the campaign script on Wikipedia (okey a summary of the story) and HoMM5 semmed to have lots of more background and story then Heroes I.
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I definitely enjoyed and understood Heroes III's storyline back in 1999, having never played a Might and Magic game before then. And I was around nine years old, so...
But with four other games set in the same universe - it would be hard for newcomers to the series to understand everything that happened in the past.
The Might & Magic story is complex. To complex.
Also most fans though it was good that Ubisoft lolscrapped the old story.
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Just like the, er, "loltarded" H5 vanilla one we have already, which was based on the Heroes III storyline?
Sorry did not understand. H5 has no connections to the old world...
Orginally it was planned to be set in Axeoth but they scrapped it totally because (as I said several times) thought the old story was to complex and confusing for new fans. They were also afraid that they would make lots of errors in the story (since they were confused too).
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Yeah, even professionals who are employed and paid exclusively to create consistent storylines.
Blizz(t)ard is one of the most successful, best and most proffesional companies of all time (lol they do four huge games at the same time and all perfect quality) and they make a lot of mistakes.
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Six Demon Overlords, not Demon Sovereigns.
Intersting. Maybe I should change my HoMM6 idea so that there where six overlords and Mal'beleth and Kha'beleth are overlords but the Sovereign is the big boss (and could only be a overlord).
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Two novels are not lots of novels, as you stated. Besides, Warcraft has novels and you seem to "understand it to 100%".
Im aware of the story in almost all Warcraft books since im a member of several fan sites, Warcraft lore sites and is a proud member of Scrollsoflore.com and Wowwiki.com (which has 100% lore).
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Which one of them?
Lol stupid question, has nothing to do with what I said
The only worlds im aware of are Colony and Axeoth (because Enroth is a continent like Paleadra, right?).
I didnt understand the last thing you said, sorry.
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Over himself, over his own
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Asheera
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posted August 09, 2008 10:29 PM |
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OMG Quote Wars
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Cepheus
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posted August 10, 2008 12:44 AM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 00:56, 10 Aug 2008.
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Okay, after this comment I just couldn't resist responding:
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Good then the useless spam can stop
Whoa hostility! Hey Xerox this is just for fun and the sake of argument, you've gotta keep in mind that I never mean any personal offence
My more smart-assed comments are merely intended as sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek, not deliberately insulting. There's a disclaimer in the "colour is cerulean" dealy in my PP.
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that is totally based around peoples own opinions.
Glad to hear it! Hmm...
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I dont care if Ubisoft likes it, its still not a official expansion from them.
But still there is no point to make a new world
Its so easy and its not even slighlty complex
Im quite sure that Heroes I didnt have super rich story either.
In my opinon there were six sovereigns (one to rule them all) to counter the six elemental dragons (who are awesome btw).
Yes, I guess it really had ought to stop 
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Okey I did some research and guess what I found out...
That most reveiws though that Heroes Is storyline was short, not complex and very poor.
In addition I read the campaign script on Wikipedia (okey a summary of the story) and HoMM5 semmed to have lots of more background and story then Heroes I.
I don't think you Read The Friendly Manual as I suggested, though. Besides, we're talking about a game that's 10 years younger than Heroes III. You'd expect the quality to be moving upwards, but even Ashan's biggest fan here has just admitted that it has a far less complex plot than Heroes III's story.
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The Might & Magic story is complex. To complex.
It's complex to complex? Well, as long as it's not wall to wall. Anyway it is really not possible for a consistent storyline to be too complex. You haven't played Legacy of Kain by any chance, have you?
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Also most fans though it was good that Ubisoft lolscrapped the old story.
What happened to -
"the useless spam can stop that is totally based around peoples own opinions"
You're going to have to offer proof on this one.
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Sorry did not understand. H5 has no connections to the old world...
The whole storyline of Heroes V vanilla takes more than a few elements directly from Heroes III RoE.
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Orginally it was planned to be set in Axeoth but they scrapped it totally because (as I said several times) thought the old story was to complex and confusing for new fans. They were also afraid that they would make lots of errors in the story (since they were confused too).
You don't have to tell me, since I'm the one who gave you that info in the first place.
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Blizzard is one of the most successful, best and most proffesional companies of all time (lol they do four huge games at the same time and all perfect quality) and they make a lot of mistakes.
But they have very complex and detailed storylines like that of Heroes I-IV, whereas Nival apparently don't.
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Lol stupid question, has nothing to do with what I said
Well, it was more tongue-in-cheek than stupid. Where's your sense of sarcasm? 
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The only worlds im aware of are Colony and Axeoth (because Enroth is a continent like Paleadra, right?).
Nope. Palaedra isn't a continent and Enroth is another name for Colony as well as a continent.
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I didnt understand the last thing you said, sorry.
That doesn't really surprise me.
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OMG Quote Wars
Really? So this must be how Mvassilev feels 
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posted August 10, 2008 01:06 AM |
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I like Ashan more than Axeoth/Enroth, basically because I understood the Ashan storyline more than the Axeothian one. It may be a naive Idea, but a few years ago, I was thinking about merging Axeoth with Ashan. Another Reckoning, the Ashanites invade Axeoth.
Presently, I still think the storyline should continue in Ashan. Not the I'm not fond of Axeoth, but I don't want to have another World Change, it would confuse the older player (which spoils the fun)
Basically the game would consist of the Usual Races (Multiple Human Empires, the Elven Grove, the Undead Necropolis and the Demon Horde) + some typical, but not vital races (Dwarves, Drow/Dark-Elf, Orc) + some new races (Naga, Dragon Knights, Insectoids, Lizardmen, Unknown Race mixes, etc.)
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xerox
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posted August 10, 2008 01:18 AM |
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YES!
Assitance in the War of the Series! Kind of, atleast
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I don't think you Read The Friendly Manual as I suggested, though. Besides, we're talking about a game that's 10 years younger than Heroes III. You'd expect the quality to be moving upwards, but even Ashan's biggest fan here has just admitted that it has a far less complex plot than Heroes III's story.
I didnt say anything about Heroes 3
I said that if you compare H5 with H1 - then H5 had lots of more background and storyline then H1.
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The whole storyline of Heroes V vanilla takes more than a few elements directly from Heroes III RoE.
Like what? Demons are "evil" ?
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You don't have to tell me, since I'm the one who gave you that info in the first place.
Uhm no. I saw the H5 alpha world map and read some interviews from Ubisoft/Nival.
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But they have very complex and detailed storylines like that of Heroes I-IV, whereas Nival apparently don't.
Because Ashan only had one game in the series yet, while the old world had 4 games. Warcraft also had 4 games and lots of expansions to build up its story plus millions of books.
As I said before, you need to give it some time. You cant expect a whole new universe to have a lot of background and story.
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posted August 10, 2008 01:22 AM |
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When all this world stuff is up, just wanna correct my mind.
Colony is a world that includes Enroth adn Erathia right? And Axeoth is a new one created by the Reckoning?
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posted August 10, 2008 02:17 AM |
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Assitance in the War of the Series! Kind of, atleast
Well, this isn't a war, just a psuedo-debate which will amount to nothing anyway. Besides, you're on a forum where more people have played exclusively Heroes V than any other game, and very few individuals have played Might and Magic at all. But I guess I have a little assistance too:
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I didnt say anything about Heroes 3
Well, I didn't say anything about Might and Magic III, so big deal there.
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I said that if you compare H5 with H1 - then H5 had lots of more background and storyline then H1.
But Heroes I was released over ten years earlier. Besides, Heroes III had lots of more background and storyline than Heroes V, and didn't rely on any other games at all (except its expansions - the events of Heroes II were mentioned but played no role). Heroes V has even had Dark Messiah.
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Uhm no. I saw the H5 alpha world map
But you admitted that you know very little about Colony / Axeoth. If that's true, how could you have recognised the names they carried over - especially back then before I started annoying you?
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Like what? Demons are "evil" ?
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Human kingdom (Erathia) involving Griffins being attacked by Demons is the focus of the story. Said kingdom was split off from a greater empire (Bracaduun) by a leader the kingdom was named after (Rion Gryphonheart).
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Human kingdom (Holy Griffin Empire) involving Griffins being attacked by Demons is the focus of the story. Said kingdom was split off from a greater empire (Falcon Empire) by a leader the kingdom was named after (Duke Ivan of Griffin).
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Ruler's (Allison) father (Rion) is killed, though his soul is retrieved from demons by a noble knight (Tarnum).
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Ruler's (Nicolai) father (Alexei) is killed, though his soul is retrieved from demons by a noble knight (Tieru).
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Some charismatic underworld leader (Mutare) is looking to conquer a war-torn kingdom (Nighon) using strongly aristocratic means. Their quest involves Black Dragons (Vial of Dragon Blood).
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Some charismatic underworld leader (Raelag) is looking to conquer a war-torn kingdom (Ygg-Chall) using strongly aristocratic means. Their quest involves Black Dragons (Malsara).
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The king (Nicolas) is killed in cold blood through the use of poison by a person (Lord Haart) from a foreign land (Enroth) with ties to another, more evil land (Deyja) who has been in the human kingdom (Erathia) for some time.
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The king (Nicolai) is killed in cold blood through the use of poison by a person (Agrael) from a foreign land (Ygg-Chall) with ties to another, more evil land (Sheogh) who has been in the human kingdom (Holy Griffin Empire) for some time.
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Necromancers are originally active under the wise leadership of a certain leader (Finneas Vilmar), become pussyfooted later when that leader is killed by someone (Nicolas), and then have a war for their own throne involving two prominent individuals (Archibald, Kastore).
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Necromancers are originally active under the wise leadership of a certain leader (Markal), become pussyfooted later when that leader is killed by someone (Zehir), and then have a war for their own throne involving two prominent individuals (Arantir, Giovanni).
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The half-demon son (Xeron) of a prominent human leader taken against their will (Admiral Magnus Bonn) and a sexually-crazed demon (the Succubus) will one day threaten the world with a great weapon (Armageddon's Blade).
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The half-demon son (Sareth) of a prominent human leader taken against their will (Isabel Greyhound) and a sexually-crazed demon (Kha-Beleth) will one day threaten the world with a great weapon (Skull of Shadows).
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Evil Necromancer (Sandro) goes on a vengeance quest, tricking someone into finding artifacts (Armour of the Damned).
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Evil Necromancer (Markal) goes on a vengeance quest, tricking someone into finding artifacts (Vampire's Garment).
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Noble heroes (AvLee) are fighting a war with subterranean creatures (Nighonese) and are betrayed / messed around by a Dwarf they once trusted (Kurbon).
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Noble heroes (Grimheim) are fighting a war with subterranean creatures (Dark Elves) and are betrayed / messed around by a Dwarf they once trusted (Rolf and Hangvul).
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Elven king (Eldrich) sacrifices himself in a moment of demon-related peril (Reckoning) to aid a close friend (Gelu).
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Elven king (Alaron) sacrifices himself in a moment of demon-related peril (Battle of Syris Thalla) to aid a close friend (Findan).
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Orc-like creatures of the wastelands (Krewlod) come out of nowhere and wage a vengeance war against age-old enemies (Tatalia). They are originally led by a formidable leader (Boragus), but become more active when their new king (Kilgor) succeeds him.
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Orc-like creatures of the wastelands (Ranaar) come out of nowhere and wage a vengeance war against age-old enemies (Raven Duchy). They are originally led by a formidable leader (Quroq), but become more active when their new king (Gotai) succeeds him.
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The mentor (Ethric) of a major Necromancer (Sandro) is mentioned / involved. He was involved with the Wizards (Bracada).
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The mentor (Sandro) of a major Necromancer (Markal) is mentioned / involved. He was involved with the Wizards (Silver League).
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A somewhat indifferent half-assed Wizard King (Gavin Magnus) of some place is involved. Said place (Bracada) later aids the main heroes (Catherine).
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A somewhat indifferent half-assed Wizard King (Cyrus) of some place is involved. Said place (Silver League) later aids the main heroes (Triumverate).
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There is a female Sorceress (Adrienne) walking around in a land (Tatalia) who has been strongly affiliated with the demons of a distant land (Eeofol).
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There is a female Sorceress (Shadya / Biara) walking around in a land (Ygg-Chall) who has been strongly affiliated with the demons of a distant land (Sheogh).
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Necromancer (Finneas Vilmar) who has been involved in a recent war raises Queen's (Catherine) closest relative (Nicolas) to fight against her.
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Necromancer (Markal) who has been involved in a recent war raises Queen's (Isabel) closest relative (Nicolai) to fight against her.
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Crazed demon king (Lucifer Kreegan III) lusts for vengeance against the Queen (Catherine) and King (Roland) of a human-occupied land (Erathia). A half-demon (Xeron) is involved.
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Crazed demon king (Kha-Beleth) lusts for vengeance against the Queen (Isabel) and King (Nicolai) of a human-occupied land (Holy Griffin Empire). A half-demon (Sareth) is involved.
There's a few of the convenient similarities up there ^^ Some are loose, some aren't, but many were certainly copied straight out of Heroes III.
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and read some interviews from Ubisoft/Nival.
Can you please direct me to them? I don't know which ones you mean exactly
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As I said before, you need to give it some time. You cant expect a whole new universe to have a lot of background and story.
All well and good, but that's exactly what I got out of Heroes III. There was literally no connection to any prior games and it was absolutely rich in storyline - don't even get me started on Heroes IV. Heroes V just didn't reach the same standards.
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Colony is a world that includes Enroth adn Erathia right? And Axeoth is a new one created by the Reckoning?
Two things - the continent is named Antagarich, not Erathia. Axeoth was already there for hundreds of years before the Reckoning, it's just another world.
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mvassilev
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 10, 2008 03:28 AM |
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1. New fans will be able to enjoy and understand the story.
So are you calling HoMM fans stupid?
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2. Ubisoft were afraid to screw up things and do lots of errors.
Because they really didn't now, right?
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4. The Might & Magic fans would be even more annoying and angry because the Ubisoft would make a H5 based in the old universe suck and it would be totally loltarded if they worked on the old storyline...
And it isn't loltarded now...
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6. Ubisoft has said several times that they DONT want to make ANY connection to the old world(s).
That's a decision, not a reason.
Also, I like how your numbering goes 1 2 3 4 6. What happened to 5?
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I said that if you compare H5 with H1 - then H5 had lots of more background and storyline then H1.
Yes, if you take H1 by itself. But you can't. It's part of a large universe.
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Eccentric Opinion
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 10, 2008 05:46 AM |
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INTERMISSION
Cepheus is awesome
Now go on with your discussion.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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ChaosReigns
Hired Hero
Rather inept necromancer
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posted August 10, 2008 10:39 AM |
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Angels were machines in the old lore? Wow, I had no idea (I only briefly played Heroes 3).
Would anyone be willing to give some more info?
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Drako_the_noob
Known Hero
Banned
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posted August 10, 2008 12:51 PM |
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I still go for the old universe.
I don't care about new fans, etc.
Call me conservative or retrograde, but I think the old story isn't finished.
And Ihate Homm 5's story.
The old Might and Magic 1-9 amd HOMM 1-4 stories were a LOT better.
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P=poetry
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted August 10, 2008 12:52 PM |
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And Azagal is the bomb.
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Angels were machines in the old lore? Wow, I had no idea (I only briefly played Heroes 3).
Would anyone be willing to give some more info?
Well actually that was never certain, it was just an assumption we drew from a developer's comment -
At its core, the Might and Magic is about advanced civilizations who have descend into barbarism. If you disagree, your reasoning is emotional, not logical. Many people forget the Inferno is not populated by demons. It's populated by aliens who look like demons. If I told you the origin of the Arch Angels I'm sure many of you would have a heart attack.
So it's never been certain. There had been "Guardians" beforehand which were similar to androids who looked like humans, though, so it's possible.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted August 10, 2008 01:25 PM |
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Nice Pwnage of Xerox, Ceph, but I still prefer the Ashan Storyline, since that WILL be the one we shall continue with.
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