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Thread: Revival of the Ghosts - GotP back alive!!! This thread is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 · «PREV / NEXT»
Kronos1000
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posted September 19, 2007 04:42 PM

@Cepheus: I prefer an Ashan storyline (And don't forget that some "old" Heroes are mentioned in the Campaigns) my idea is there is one Dimension that is linked to all the others (Guess three times) anyway if you can travel it you can enter another world such as Axeoth or Ashan.

@Serpent2: Good, I guess I now understand how DM ends. Now Sareth can kick more Orc butts To be serious again Sandro will still be Sandro as he is mentioned several times in the Campaigns my idea is he wasn't killed he was too powerful instead he was locked away inside the Beginning Dimension and Karador opened it, but didn't lock it so Sandro could escape and he wants to unleash his anger upon the Mages and Sareth will try to stop him, while they are fighting the Sanctum is gaining power I sill need to think up more and I need to implant the Infidels, the Sanctum and the Demons. But the storyline will be written later I must concentrate on the new Beta now.
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Cepheus
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posted September 19, 2007 04:45 PM

Hmph.  Well you can count on me to have no hand whatsoever in the storyline then.

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posted September 19, 2007 04:56 PM

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posted September 19, 2007 07:00 PM

@Cepheus: Just of curiocity, do you hate Ashan so much so much tat you do not want to be involved with it? By the way I don't think Realag, Izzie or Andrei wll die in TotE they are the only characters in the GotP timeline that return the rest are all new.

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posted September 19, 2007 10:06 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 22:14, 19 Sep 2007.

Of course not, I don't hate Ashan at all, it's a great looking little world.  I just hate the crappy storytelling involved.  If I hated Ashan, why would I have completely revamped the script for Tales of Karador?  I guess my last post was a bit too dismissive, sorry about that.  The thing is, Ghosts of the Past is meant to be a sort of tribute to the old games.  With all those past heroes, it doesn't make a lot of sense to include no reference to the past universe.  Plus, I wouldn't be so sure that Isabel nor Raelag will definitely survive.

Tell you what.  If we can make around eleven campaigns like you said, why don't we set two or three of them in Axeoth as a seperate storyline, and the others as a continuing story in Ashan.

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posted September 19, 2007 10:12 PM

that sounds rather exciting, that way, old favs from the library will appreciate this too, however it would require some skillish editing
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posted September 19, 2007 10:56 PM
Edited by xerox at 22:56, 19 Sep 2007.

In Warcraft there is a place called The Caverns of Time. You can travel back in time in it.
Maybe you could do something similar if you want to go back to the old world of HoMM.

Just an bad idea.

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posted September 20, 2007 07:09 AM

Axeoth Campaigns..... That's an awesome idea! I can do some editing to make it look more like Axeoth such as: Putting Inferno in Necro, I can do that without overwriting Inferno or Necro It won't show up in the Faction list in the start of a game, but it can be placed on a map. We could do this lineup:

Lvl 1: Skeleton
         Imp
Lvl 3: Wight
         Hell Hound
Lvl 5: Lich
         Hell Charger
Lvl 7: Bone Dragon
        Devil
I can put all Dwellings in and let the "If you build one Dwelling the other gets disabled" thing be controled by Mapscript.
       
And plus those Campaigns can feature the return of old Heroes! Such as Ayden, his HoMM 4 bio says he lost faith in the Kreegans so instead he reaches Ashan and goes working for the Demon Sovereign. Are these good ideas?
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posted September 20, 2007 01:52 PM

Quote:
In Warcraft there is a place called The Caverns of Time. You can travel back in time in it.
Maybe you could do something similar if you want to go back to the old world of HoMM.

Just an bad idea.


Warcraft is ok, but neither WOW or assumptions that H5 looks like Warcraft graphics are welcome in my ears, those things are like the plague!
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Serpent2
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posted September 20, 2007 02:34 PM

OK, I like that concept of the storyline. Besides if Karador's actions have caused the doom star and releasing sandro then sandro has to do with Agadar - as the doom star is his first goddly sign. Based on verything said until i propose:
Urgash IS Agadar, the seraphs ARE disguised devils, Sandro, Vokial and Aiden - who come from the old worlds WORK FOR urgash int the new one as he helped releasing them, the demon sovereign WORKS FOR urgash, Urgah WAS NAVIGATING Karador's avtions without his knowlaedge. So necro's, demons and sanctum people ALL HATE EACH OTHER BUT WORK FOR URGASH WITHOUT ANY OF THEM BUT THE DEMONS KNOWING. So, if anyone has read "Silmarilion" or "Akalbeth" - just like there someone is working for Morgoth beeng manipulated or in akalbeth numenorians working for Morgoth without him beeng there - but via sauron. So the demon sovereign is the ashan Sauron and Urgash is like Morgoth - he's not there but there are 3races all working to achieve HIS plans, but hating each other - ppure evil, the snake eating it's own tale - wonderful storylne isn't it? I even dare suggest that Urgash has grander plans and he's made a pact with a Kreegan leader so that kreegans - another evil race in conflict with the others strikes ashan when the time is right. Ofcours this is a small Kreegan army - urgash has them manipulated too - everithing is under control (or that is what he thinks).
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posted September 20, 2007 03:15 PM
Edited by Kronos1000 at 15:18, 20 Sep 2007.

Amazing! I thought about something similar that Agadar was Kha-Beleth, but Urgash is much better! A possible story:

Ayden goes to Ashan as the Demon Sovereign's spy and he has brought Axeoth's Kreegans. As he discovers Sandro's huge Undead armies to Heresh wich he rebuilded as the Necromancer Kingdom similar to Nekross, as he gains power Sareth sees him as a threath and tries to attack Sandro not knowing of Ayden's secret actions, in Sareth's Campaign he searches for his family while he his being tortured in his dreams about the Demon Sovereign, so he finds out that Isabel, his mother and Redar, his half brother are dead so he goes looking for his only relative (except for the Demon Sovereign) Andrei, wich was the rightful Heir of the Throne (So they're family) while you fight Sandro's armies once you reach the fourth Map or so, you find Andrei who is not really evil he was mad about being the fact that he was supposed to be Emperor and not Realag and then he was contacted by Agadar and he took over the Empire and became Emperor like he should. Sandro has found out where Saretrh is and declares war on the Sacred Griffin Empire (The new name Andrei gave it) in Andrei's ampaign you mainly fight hordes of Undead and Sandro is secretly being instruckted by a Dark Lord (Wich turns out to be Urgash in the end) Ayden returns and also attacks the Empire, because the Sovereign instructed him. Agadar instructs Andrei to eliminate Sandro first while the "Dark Lord" contacts Sandro in his dream to destroy Ayden instead and Ayden is told to attack the Empire by Kha-Beleth, it becomes a big war eventually Andrei unleashes the Blood Seraphs upon th enemies Ayden dies, but Sandro manages to hide. Now a Campaign about Realag and the Infidels who decide to work together against the weakened Griffin Empire. Elrath is dieing while Agadar is growing stronger they must have faith to save him, they don't know this is all a plot to free the Demons. I'm not further I still need to do two more Axeoth Campaigns (Ayden's Campaign is the world switch first two maps in Axeoth 3rd Map is the switch last two in Ashan) So any ideas?

By the way to perfectonize the Axeoth Maps can someone send me some Heroes IV musics?
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posted September 20, 2007 03:29 PM
Edited by Serpent2 at 15:39, 20 Sep 2007.

Yeah - how obut having 1 campaign (the first one) Karasdor's Academy Campaign in Ashan. Then Having an AntiAyden campaign(possibly Haven) entirely in Axeoth. Then an Ayden(kreegan - necro+inferno) Cmapign with 2maps in axeoth one in the swithc and 2in ahsan. Then  Sareth's Academy campaign, Sandro's Necro campaign, Andrey's Sanctum campaign, Raelag's Renegade Campaign(old Haven) nad Finaly Kha-Beleth's Demon campaign. I think that is a fine campaign concept for starters. Farther we may include another3 campains of other races - antiKha'beleth, who has destroyed sandro and Ayden with ease and is haeding to destroying Andrei , Sareth and Raelag. That makes them 11. But what we shouldn't forget in this hole mess is that Agadar=Urgash. So far we have Sanctum, Inferno, Necropolis and Academy campaigns + 2renegade(AoH Haven)campaigns and a kreegan(necro+Infertno) for shure. The remaing races in asahan are Elves, Dark Elves, Dwarves and Orcs. But as we won't have Orcs in GotP and we're gonna have some of the confulx pack eventually included I suggest that the 3anti-Kha'Beleth campaigns are, Elven, Dark Elven and Confluxion. And I even suggest that the Conflux are infact led by Dragon Kniughts - that would solve a mistery of the Ashn history - how did the "Dragon hunt" end.
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posted September 20, 2007 04:39 PM

The Orcs will be in GotP (Personally I'd love to make an Orc Campaign ) as it will evantually be for TotE so the Orcs could choose the side of the Demons they hate Haven and are Half-Demons so... and it's not sure if the Conflux pack will be in GotP, but I like the idea of a Dragon Knights Campaign (Probably they won Tieru is/was one) but we still need to think of: How did the Demons break free?
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posted September 20, 2007 05:00 PM

Hmm, I sorta meant let's do two totally seperate stories, one in Ashan and one in Axeoth, not connecting the two together.  Seriously, please let's not link Axeoth with Ashan.  They are entirely different in many ways and contradict each other in both storyline and appearance, and let's not smash both continuities to bits by having people spontaneously travel between worlds.

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posted September 20, 2007 05:04 PM
Edited by Serpent2 at 17:08, 20 Sep 2007.

Why not?! Oh, and I suggest we make the dmons got INCIDENTLY freed by Sareth as he was trying to do someth else. After all YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR FATE. For example - saretyh wanted to brake the scull of shadows, absorbe it's power and use it to aid the army of Raelag but breaking the scull lead to freeng the demons - which he did least expect.
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Cepheus
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posted September 20, 2007 05:06 PM

Do you really want an in-depth explanation of why Axeoth's people can't travel to distant worlds just like that, or will you take my word for it?

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posted September 20, 2007 05:10 PM

Well, I belive I need the in depth explanation as obviously they vould travel TO axeoth - so why couldn't they trave back - or farther?
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posted September 20, 2007 05:18 PM

two seperate campagins would rock! also if you merged Inferno and Necro into one uber town thats OP and rocks, what town would replace it? (Naga?)
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posted September 20, 2007 05:25 PM

Noooo, merging Inferno and Necropolis into a Kreegan faction WON"T OVERRIDE ANY OF THE TWO. Besides About the 2 separate campaigns we need to hear a final gudgemnt from Kronos1000. On the other hand if there is two of them then atleast one will be Axeoth/Ashan I belive. Nothing on the other hand stops us from makinga a pure axeoth one.
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posted September 20, 2007 05:31 PM
Edited by Kronos1000 at 17:42, 20 Sep 2007.

Hmmm.... Then what kinda story did you have in mind? If you can write a good Axeoth story I'll try to make it.

Even though you said linking them in apearance and storyline, I wanted to give Axeoth special attention to make it as close as HoMM IV as possible, even the music, so only the storyline will be linked.

Anyway, both Sandro and Ayden will stay in Ashan or our new story will be ruined.

Edit: Wow you two posted while I was posting

@Ted: Serpent is right the Death Allingment (wich will apear only in Axeoth) won't replace anything I'll just copy the Shared file and the Delling files so the existing interior of Necro and everything just changed the Creatures in the Dwellings so no real new Factions.
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