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Vangelis21
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posted September 23, 2008 09:34 AM |
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exactly. and cycleguy, watch your mouth, nobody called you any names or anything. i don't know what kind of pact you have with ves for free points whatsoever but when he doesn't give me points i won fair and square then i can only talk about dishonor.
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted September 23, 2008 09:40 AM |
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If somebody doesn't report and you don't get points then how is that Ves fault? Ves has ToH to maintain while having to pay for the cost in order to keep the site running, he probably also has jobs in real life and that would make him a very busy man. For some of you to start saying bad stuff about him is totally unfair and inappropriate. Let's see if some of you could do a better job with ToH. Go and try to make your own sites now and see exactly how hard it would be to maintain, let alone even get people to join the site and start playing.
It's a lot harder than you think it is and maybe some of you should just give him credit for keeping the site the way it has turned out today. Jeez, if some of you are unhappy with the way things are then just quit and stop your complaining.
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diegis
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power of Zamolxis
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posted September 23, 2008 09:46 AM |
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exactly. and cycleguy, watch your mouth, nobody called you any names or anything. i don't know what kind of pact you have with ves for free points whatsoever but when he doesn't give me points i won fair and square then i can only talk about dishonor.
I am curious about one little thing....Wheres other players' oppinion...like moderators...like other very well known players...I'll name some of them (_just for refreshing their status  ): Elvin, Fiur, Valky, the teacher, sq, insa...and many many others...destro...boxa, strider...ive got over 200 in my list...Hello everyone? still playing heroes on the Tournament of Honor?...i bet u are...
U see Vangelis...? thats what i was talking about, and nothing more...
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Vangelis21
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posted September 23, 2008 09:49 AM |
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if he is incapable of maintaining toh then it is not our problem but his. william you are a noob in toh, you can't speak. you don't know things. and it is his responsibility to give the points to anyone who has been tricked. so whoever doesn't know things better shut it. Others are helpers of toh. those who help noobs, those who play a lot games, those who bring others in toh. for god's sake. it is getting ridiculous when every little kid jumps out to say his opinion on things he doesn't comprehend
Most of known players diegis are just keeping a low profile. i have been shot several weeks now about my opinions on matters. the truth is that ALOT known players have told me that they agree with me or have shown they agree but they never talk in public for not to ruin their reputation. i don't blame them for that. obviously i disagree with them not talking but in fact they do good to themselves.
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted September 23, 2008 09:51 AM |
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I've actually been a member of Heroes Community since March 3rd, 2006, and I first joined ToH in 2006 some time, but didn't play many games (if any actually). I have read a lot of what goes on in here though, so don't you think that I know what I'm talking about, Vangelis?
Exactly. So maybe you should think before you speak. 
EDIT: And seriously stop calling me a kid. I find it insulting.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted September 23, 2008 10:09 AM |
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there's something knew i hear...about other players told u they are not satisfied, but if true...this is the real world of TOH nowadays unfortunately.
May be I can understand some of them, but not the majority, like "moderators"
All I understand from this, is generation's conflict...
And that's the true, in those dark days of TOH...
Nobody's fault...just too few people enjoying the game...
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Elit
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posted September 23, 2008 10:12 AM |
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Vangelis21 pls stop blame Ves for all unreported games. He cant make fast decision. Just stop play vs people who not report his games. For example i'm not play vs Strider because he fake loss his save long time ago vs me and refuse to report his game.
About main topic. I dont want to blame Ves (he is great man)and AL is 100% right for what he say. Its about principles.
Some people say "if you dont like stufs just leave". Its bad attitude. When have problems best solution is to talk for them and fix. If you ignore problems they are up in time and kill game/site.
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Vangelis21
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posted September 23, 2008 10:20 AM |
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99% agreed with elit. the only things is elit that you probably dont understand that i have proof of the noob's cheating so there is no decision for ves really. he HAS to do it. end of story with that. about main topic i think new FAQ and rules should be up so we all should know what to expect
eg who to go to hall of shame, when we can contact ves for reports, when, who and id we take any money etc etc.
to end this : i never commented on ves as a human being and the truth is that i respected him very much until he ignored me for no reason. so i keep my opinion on his managerial skills
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 23, 2008 10:29 AM |
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Rob is not responsible for any games played that is not reported.
Maybe Rob should have one Honour council to take care of things if he is too busy like before.
You need to communicate with your oponent about any games unreported or if there was any mistakes.
It's not Robs fault for games being unreported,it's the two players who played that maps fault.
Communicate.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted September 23, 2008 10:29 AM |
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99% agreed with elit.
good  ...make love now....!
ouch!...i thought acu's around....and some puppet from his wardrobe
(No offense acu...joking man)
EDIT....by the way, if acu's in the HC, I'll be first in the shame Hall
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Vangelis21
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posted September 23, 2008 10:30 AM |
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IT IS VES responsibility to report these games and judge in general what is happening in toh. someone should do it. and i am pretty sure dozens of players would like to form a council for free from in here. just something more than cars for him to think about..
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 23, 2008 10:34 AM |
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No it is not his responsibility to all of a sudden change everything on the unreported list.
I seen many shadyness on my time to know better.
I seen players report wins when they actually loss.
I seen players not report when one other player has.
You have to email Rob to fix the problem.
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 23, 2008 10:40 AM |
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Then again, one person might try to cheat his way by saying he won when he actually lost when he emails Rob.
There should be 2 parties.
Not enough players to have an honour council.
I think Jinxer would make a perfect honour council.
He has always been fair, even though he blew me off a game in toh heroes 3.
Fixed me a bad set up in a tourney.
Did not invite me to that big bracket tourney when i had a bid in it.
That was when he retired & came back & i was unknown to most season 1-3 vets lol.
That was so long ago lol.
Memories lol.
We really went at it lol.
I know Mike has always been fair lol.
Anyone can help Rob out, I am sure if Rob trusts someone.
I am more of the silver age player.
Jinxer & Vesuvius are golden ages
They should know i would do whatever i can for them 
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Vangelis21
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posted September 23, 2008 10:44 AM |
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no comment on jinxer 
acu you didnt read probably... i said i sent him proof about my win. of course everyone can say whatever he wants. but when you have proof he MUST accept it. end of story
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted September 23, 2008 10:49 AM |
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They should know i would do whatever i can for them
WE KNOW YOU WILL, and I'll vote for you in HC even if we had a mini Balkan-war...
But this matter is not up to me ... what about fiur??? he fits perfect for a job like this.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 23, 2008 11:20 AM |
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Reason I have said nothing so far is that I'd only repeat what wolfsburg and a few others have said already. Does Al have a reason to complain? Yes. However do I believe that there would be no issue at all if ves had talked with him on private before he got pissed? Also yes. It's not a matter of dishonour, he is merely a pragmatist. The issue was brought up, he spoke his mind and he gave the money, what's done is done. Yes there are consequences but cut him some slack. Let's not be ungrateful, he's got more responsibilities than we do and we are instead wasting his time with drama threads and accusations. This thread was of course perfectly warranted and the complaint needed to be heard but let's not go beyond that.
And Vangelis, big deal he ignored you. Have you wondered if you have not played your part in this with your overall behaviour? You know that I respect you but the truth is that you are causing unnecessary fuss, creating frictions and you have pissed more than a few players. If you look at the situation from a neutral point of view who tells him that you are 100% ok and the others 100% wrong? He has seen a lot of things in all these years to treat it lightly, also I know that if someone was stepping on my toes I wouldn't be at his beck and call.
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 23, 2008 11:26 AM |
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I have a feeling you wont play your 31st game with vAngela anymore Elvin
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Vangelis21
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posted September 23, 2008 11:28 AM |
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that's what arrogance, ignorance and illiteracy on specific things does. after repeating the word "proof" 10000000 million times some people haven't still understood. change the subject and take it again to the real at fault and let me aside. i saw a thread accusing ves for some things and i accused him on some others. if you paid attention i haven't even commented on the money issue.
ps "have" responsibilities doesn't mean "do" something.
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 23, 2008 11:32 AM |
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Hey Vangelis?
The Teacher or Valkyrika?
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
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posted September 23, 2008 11:33 AM |
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what??
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