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Lith-Maethor
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posted March 05, 2009 10:08 PM

what he said

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@mvassilev: if you hard disk is formatted in FAT or NTFS

you should deinstall your linux as fast as you can

because linux destroyes those hard disks

stay with windows it's simply the best


it will also make your nose hair grow and give you smelly feet and a beerbelly

yeah...
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posted March 05, 2009 11:04 PM

@mvass: One more thing: When you open a terminal, can you login as root with the following method:
sudo -s
?

Also let me know if you found where network-admin is.
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posted March 05, 2009 11:11 PM

dimis:
I'm logged in xfce right now, but I'll try your solution a bit later.

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One more thing: When you open a terminal, can you login as root with the following method:
sudo -s

No.

TheDeath:
Actually, it's not in a partition, since I used wubi to install it.
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posted March 05, 2009 11:31 PM
Edited by dimis at 23:31, 05 Mar 2009.

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dimis:
I'm logged in xfce right now, but I'll try your solution a bit later.
k

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One more thing: When you open a terminal, can you login as root with the following method:
sudo -s

No.
If you can not login with
sudo -i
either (read here), then there is only one possibility left and if that doesn't work either, we'll have to hack your computer.
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posted March 06, 2009 02:59 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 15:13, 06 Mar 2009.

How do I log on with sudo -i? I tried what they have, and it didn't even ask me for the password.

Edit:
Okay, it's weird. I didn't connect to the network, but I'm connected now (under FVWM-crystal). So it works. I don't even know why. I couldn't even find gnome-network-admin.
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posted March 06, 2009 03:52 PM
Edited by dimis at 15:53, 06 Mar 2009.

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How do I log on with sudo -i? I tried what they have, and it didn't even ask me for the password.
If it doesn't ask you for a password, then most likely you are already a root. As I said before, you can verify this by simply issuing
whoami
Moreover, the prompt in root's case typically ends in "#" while for a regular user it ends with "$".

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Edit:
Okay, it's weird. I didn't connect to the network, but I'm connected now (under FVWM-crystal). So it works. I don't even know why. I couldn't even find gnome-network-admin.
What is the output of
cat /etc/network/interfaces
now?


And finally, install through synaptic "kuser".

Let me know when you are done with these.
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posted March 06, 2009 04:26 PM
Edited by del_diablo at 16:38, 06 Mar 2009.

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Edit:
Okay, it's weird. I didn't connect to the network, but I'm connected now (under FVWM-crystal). So it works. I don't even know why. I couldn't even find gnome-network-admin.


So your on wireless eh? I guess its open and thus auto-connected(or it hooked somewhere else).
Another guess: If you connected in XFCE the password is saved(meaning no random recluttering needed). So you are connected, using the saved password.
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posted March 06, 2009 11:20 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 01:58, 07 Mar 2009.

dimis:
whoami responds with my username, not root.

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What is the output of
cat /etc/network/interfaces
now?
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

And I'll get kuser in a little bit.

del_diablo:
Yes, I have a wireless connection, but it didn't remember the password at first - until this morning, I couldn't get online under FVWM-crystal.

Edit:
Okay, this is getting weird. My computer made some kind of squeaking sound, then, when I tried to get online (in FVWM-crystal), it was offline. Then I tried logging into xfce - and neither the top nor bottom toolbars loaded. Then I logged back into FVWM-crystal, and now it's working.
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posted March 07, 2009 02:06 AM
Edited by dimis at 02:07, 07 Mar 2009.

Strange things started happening a long time ago ...
First of all, you can *not* use "sudo".
Second, your interfaces are not set and you have internet access (btw, which program are you using to get online?)
Third, this one ...

What kind of file system do you use for win? (ntfs, fat)
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posted March 07, 2009 02:18 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 02:18, 07 Mar 2009.

It did it again. Now I'm back in XP - and I noticed that my hard drive is extremely fragmented - and defragging it didn't help at all. It wasn't this fragmented before I installed Xubuntu. What am I to do? Just uninstall and reinstall?

How do I check if it's NTFS or FAT?
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posted March 07, 2009 02:28 AM
Edited by dimis at 02:32, 07 Mar 2009.

I am pretty sure you can view the file system on the left part of the window that opens when you double click "my computer" (and simply select the drive) or by right clicking on your hard drive and selecting properties. It should be stated somewhere. Oh, probably the disk defragmenter also mentions it on the line where you see the hard drive. It should be easy to figure that out.
edit:Another route to figure the file system: Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Disks. I think it's stated in the middle of the icon representing the partition.
Most likely you have ntfs and this causes problems in your side.

So, let me come to my initial suggestion. SPARE 10$ and do your job (i.e. extra hard drive)!
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posted March 07, 2009 02:31 AM

Oh yeah, it's NTFS. I should've known that.

Anyway, should I just uninstall Xubuntu?
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posted March 07, 2009 02:37 AM
Edited by dimis at 02:38, 07 Mar 2009.

It's your call.
So far you 've been installing lots of stuff in a partition that is not even native (I really have no clue how on earth wubi works).
So, may be the problems will stabilize when you stop installing stuff.

Hence, my suggestion is, try to keep it this way. If fvwm has internet access, make it your default configuration, and *stick* with that. Play around a bit, and if you decide that you want linux for sure, then either backup everything and reinstall windows and ubuntu *on different partitions*, or buy a cheap hard drive and have them on two separate drives.

Have fun with what you have so far!
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posted March 07, 2009 02:39 AM

My FVWM internet access just keeps messing up. Certain pages load, while others give me the "offline" message...

And what could that sound have been?
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posted March 07, 2009 02:42 AM

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And what could that sound have been?
What do you mean?
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posted March 07, 2009 02:43 AM

Right before all of the recent problems appeared, my computer's internal speaker (at least, I think it was the internal speaker) made some kind of sound.
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posted March 07, 2009 02:52 AM
Edited by dimis at 02:52, 07 Mar 2009.

I have no clue. But usually it's an indication of something going wrong. Just for the fun of it, are you sure you are the only one using this computer? Check on a terminal the last column of the output
last -a
Do you (or "root") connect to that pc from another location? Logically most of them (if not all) should be ":0" ...
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posted March 07, 2009 03:13 AM

Nope. Nothing.

And I think I'm just going to uninstall it... I don't know whether to reinstall or not.
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posted March 07, 2009 03:23 AM

well, you know the procedures now. I hope you liked your first trip to linux-land.

Keep us informed.
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posted March 07, 2009 03:26 AM

k. It's uninstalled. I hope there will be no permanent side effects.

A summary of my foray into the Linux world:
Pros:
Fast, if you can find the right stuff.
Can basically do everything that Windows can.

Cons:
Slower than Windows, if you don't find the right stuff.
Steep learning curve.
Errors like mine.

Now, should I use Wubi and reinstall it? I mean, it really was faster with FVWM-crystal. But I might run into the same problems again...
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