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posted February 22, 2009 07:42 PM |
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Nah, it's just make more sense to get another computer.
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posted February 22, 2009 08:25 PM |
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I am too lazy to browse the thread, so I ask a question that was perhaps answered 10 time before:
Can I play Heroes on Linux? Cause, if I can, I might get rid of crappy Windows.
not quite sure about HoMM4, but 1, 2, 3 and 5 work just fine with WINE (and 3 even has a native port)
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posted February 22, 2009 08:58 PM |
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Which is cool because you can't run 1 on XP with out the emulator, and same for 2 on vista.
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Forget partitioning. The only way I know of to do it without using fdisk (which erases your drive and defeats the purpose), is to use something like Partition Magic which will probably cost as much or more than a new drive.
1) Get a new drive like this (hot link doesn't work)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Quantum-20gb-Hard-Drive-2031_W0QQitemZ390032094840QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Drives_Storage_Internal?hash=item390032094840&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A15%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
(that is just an example and I don't even know if it's compatible with your system, but it probably is)
2) Disconnect your current drive to save the hassle of multi-booting. Disconnecting is also much safer because you won't touch your current installation. If something goes wrong you just reconnect the old drive.
3) Connect the new drive.
4) Install Linux (see note below)
5) Try Linux
If you like it, you can figure out how to dual boot and reconnect your old drive. If you don't like it, reformat and you have a lot more storage than before.
Note: You have a fairly old comp, do you have a CD burner? You need everything ready BEFORE you disconnect your old drive.
Also, something related that someone else will have to answer because I don't know ....if you have a clean fresh drive you will need some sort of bootable CD or floppy. I have no idea how to make a Linux boot disk if you download the distribution. A Microsoft boot disk might work to install Linux, but I don't know for sure.
But there's another important issue which was common with older computers, and maybe still is. Just because you have a bootable CD doesn't mean your comp will be able to read it. The CD drive needs some sort of drivers....and if the drivers are on the CD and your comp can't read the CD.....see the problem? If this is the case, that's where a bootable floppy comes in handy. For sure your BIOS will know how to read a floppy.
Of course there are alternatives to all this.
1) Forget the whole idea. Why do you want to do this?
2) Probably the best thing to do if it's possible is to just barrow someone else's computer and install Linux on it. Most people are on at least their 2nd or 3rd computer and many keep their old ones. They might be happy to let you use one.
Note on buying a hard drive: with your comp specs I suspect you have an EIDE or ATA100 drive. You need a drive that's compatible.
Note on OpenOffice: if it's anything like StarOffice it sucks really bad
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posted February 22, 2009 10:01 PM |
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Also, something related that someone else will have to answer because I don't know....if you have a clean fresh drive you will need some sort of bootable CD or floppy. I have no idea how to make a Linux boot disk if you download the distribution. A Microsoft boot disk might work to install Linux, but I don't know for sure.
Use a live CD such as Knoppix, burn it. Then burn another CD or DVD with the Linux of your choice. You can boot from the first CD (Knoppix) to install it. Basically it's like installing it from hard drive, only that you boot from CD.
Or he can use a boot manager like SysLinux although to be fair, i think it's just a bit too much for mvass.
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posted February 22, 2009 10:11 PM |
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Are there any step-by-step instructions to making a disk partition and then installing Linux?
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Just do this:
*Make sure there is some empty space on your computer(read: Unformated) or that you have a C:\ or D:\ Drive.
*Burn the Linux install medium
*Install(in 95% of the cases i have installed it was grapical, VERY grapical). At some point during install you will be asked to format a space to use Linux. Go to "Manual" instead of Guided or whatever the options is. Select the D drive or the empty space and change it to Ext*(highest numer instead of the "*"), set up a minimal swap if you feel like it.
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*Done
To put it blunty: Its just a installation that uses space somewhere that you can claim for it.
If you have 1 parition however i think it gets tricky. I know there is tools around. Anyway, before you do anything: "Real men don't take backup, they cry alot".
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posted February 22, 2009 10:21 PM |
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Hamilton-Jackson trick all the way here too.
And as Binabik said, why do you want to do this (if you do want it)?
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posted February 22, 2009 10:25 PM |
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@TheDeath
But the question is, does he have the ability with his current software to burn a live CD? I know I can't burn one....I didn't try very long, but it appears my software won't do it.
@del_diablo
You said "Make sure there is some empty space on your computer(read: Unformated)". That's the problem, he doesn't have that. So he would need to fdisk or use Partition Magic or something similar.
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posted February 22, 2009 10:38 PM |
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But the question is, does he have the ability with his current software to burn a live CD? I know I can't burn one....I didn't try very long, but it appears my software won't do it.
Active ISO Burner (free)
I use PowerISO. Not free though.
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posted February 22, 2009 10:40 PM |
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Binabik:
Basically, I want something that runs faster.
And yeah, I can burn a CD.
del_diablo:
Thanks, but I don't have any unformatted space.
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posted February 22, 2009 10:41 PM |
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Yes, Binabik, you can do all the things that you want in many distributions (distros). For example you can boot from floppy, or even a usb flash-drive (although I don't think that's supported by his motherboard) - example. All in all though, working with the first cd or the first dvd and getting everything else from the network is the standard and suggested way because it has been tested extensively. As of finding a way to burn one cd, I never thought this can be a problem. But if he has a cd-r drive, may be a workaround can be found here. I would go for this one since I've never tried it.
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posted February 22, 2009 10:53 PM |
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And yeah, I can burn a CD.
You need to burn an .iso file to CD not just "a CD".
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posted February 22, 2009 10:58 PM |
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posted February 23, 2009 05:26 PM |
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You should definitely install Linux. It's one of the few moral OSs.
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posted February 24, 2009 11:16 AM |
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http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
Hmmmm, defrag first and se how its lined up. I think 3 gigs should cover it well enogh just for testing.
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posted February 24, 2009 03:12 PM |
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But doesn't it require Linux?
Gparted(or similar) is shipped with about all Linux installer disks. Defrag is Windows native.
Gparted is a major part of Ubuntu's install so distro's based on it got it or the gkt/qt version.
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posted February 24, 2009 03:27 PM |
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So, in order to use it, I'd have to install Linux? But in order to install Linux, I would have to partition my disk.
That doesn't work.
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posted February 24, 2009 03:38 PM |
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So, in order to use it, I'd have to install Linux? But in order to install Linux, I would have to partition my disk.
That doesn't work.
Linux needs space, and gparted can remove "claimed" parts of space of a Windows NTFS partition.
When degragging it should show you how much is not "really used" and gparted will use that part if you do it correctly during install.
*sigh* I am making this sound awfully complex am i? In praksis: After defrag your files is not messed all around the place and will only use lets say 14,4/20gb in placement. When booting up the install disk we use the "use of" option or whatever it says and we make move the sliders so you use like 4-5gb of the NTFS partition. Since the ntfs only used 14,4 that means we litteraly got 5,6 gb of free formated space. Its litteraly akin to regular unformated space.
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posted February 24, 2009 10:50 PM |
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So free formatted space would work?
And so I would be able to use GParted without installing it, if I had an Ubuntu disk?
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