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Aatos
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Heroic Adventurer
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posted November 30, 2010 01:50 PM |
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Edited by Aatos at 16:53, 30 Nov 2010.
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Which elementals do you like the most? Should the new ones be completely different? I like the H4 ones. I think the H6 elementals should be reinvented if there are any.
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Omnipotence
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posted November 30, 2010 02:29 PM |
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H5 for the water and earth elementals, H4 for the air elemental, and honestly I havn't been much of a fan of any of the fire elementals though I do support the idea of the H5 fire with a trade of the cannon arms to actual claws/hands or something.
As for elementals in a city, I, at the time, was a personal fan of the conflux and the upgradable elements though with the way that the series has gone I would strongly be against any sort of idea. My main problem with the altar idea is that it would add much more to the one faction with only one building than any other and it would be difficult to balance it in the new system. It also is a much more boring way of doing things than the individual units and their upgrades like in previous games. But, still, I don't see this working with the way that the game has gone especially in terms of core, elite, and champion distribution and balancing.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 30, 2010 03:22 PM |
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I like the H3 ones the best, but I'm fine with the H5 Earth Elementals and maybe the Air Elementals as well.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 30, 2010 04:38 PM |
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I had an extensive idea for neutral towns in my old Xerox H6 idea. Basically, neutral towns had some unique features and you could recruit tier 1, 3, 5 and 7 creatures.
If neutral towns would add some strategy to the game, I would love to see them. Maybe they have extra powerful buildings and creatures and generate a lot rescourses. They should not have a complete line-up though with upgrades. Maybe one Core, one Elite and one Champion.
I think H4 Air looks best, H5 water and H3 earth. I do not like any Fire elemental either though I always thought the H4 one was kinda creative.
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Omnipotence
Hired Hero
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posted November 30, 2010 05:06 PM |
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I'll admit it was creative but it just seems a little strange... Given I never played H4, yet from the picture... I don't know how I feel about a floating fiery head with random hands (or is that some kind of foot?) coming out of it . I think a unit similar to the fire dragon (except shrunken) would make an excellant fire elemental, or just, as previously mentioned, a quadrepedal salamander-type unit that shoot out of its mouth a ball of fire or something... All I know is that none of the previously used ones really suit me. Here's to some totally new and awesome elementals (hopefully)!
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 30, 2010 05:12 PM |
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I wish the H6 Elementals were this (appearance - wise)
Earth - like in H5
Water - Like in H5(but with a distinctive Serpent-like head)
Air - A compromise between H4 and H5 (the H3 looked too much like a Djinn to me)
Fire - Like H5, but with paws like the H4 model
And I would love for them to be recruitable in a special Altar in some faction (some say it would break the balance, but it was in H4 Nature and I saw no problems there, Besides the developers now have even more experience with balancing and what we want & don't
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It's an idea I had: each faction would be able to recruit one of the Elementals in a special town building (the Magic/Psychic Elemental would have to return, because there are 5 factions in the core game, and in the expansion faction, more Elementals can be introduced e.g.Electric) so it would work like this:
Fire - Inferno
Air - Haven
Earth - Necropolis
Magic/Psychic - Academy
Water - 5th faction (hopefully Naga)
EXPANSIONS:
Energy/Plasma - Dungeon
Biological/Plant - Sylvan
Ice - Fortress (if it returns, I know many of you don't like it)
Electric/Thunder - Stronghold
What do you think? I would be happy with both options
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Charrclaw
Known Hero
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posted November 30, 2010 06:09 PM |
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I never liked the idea of more then 4 elements...
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted November 30, 2010 07:32 PM |
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I think Heroes 3 elementals looked prett good - particularly the elemental upgrades from SoD looked good if you ask me. Heroes 5 elementals also looked good, although the air elemental struck me as a bit out of character.
About the Altar to recruit them, I don't see a particular problem if they take the place of another creature. It'll be sort of like alternate upgrades, you just have 4 instead of 2.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted November 30, 2010 07:41 PM |
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I agree the Heroes 3 elementals looked very good especially the fire elemental. The only one that looked really bad was the water elemental, okey not that bad but it didn't fit since it was more of a fish
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 30, 2010 08:10 PM |
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Quote: I agree the Heroes 3 elementals looked very good especially the fire elemental. The only one that looked really bad was the water elemental, okey not that bad but it didn't fit since it was more of a fish
But what's more fitting for water than a fish?
The Conflux upgrades were also quite cool, have to agree with Alcibiades on that one. Ice and Energy in particular were very good looking.
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted November 30, 2010 08:56 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 21:02, 30 Nov 2010.
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WOW, WOW, WOW
Radiant Glory, lame name, lame idea, lame conception, WTSnow all, who come up with the idea to put this in castle?
And that flying zombie leo-body, human-face thing?
Why the priests in H5 are men only? WTSnow?
And that... crwature in Inferno that looks like enormous, sore... snowhole... which can fly??? WTSnow?
Really, WTSnow?
Make humanoid Inferno, like in H3,, the only ok looking one.
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Charrclaw
Known Hero
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posted November 30, 2010 09:25 PM |
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So far imo everything is cool with the game ( even the dragon blood thing, but what kind of use do you have with frozen blood?) except two things : breeder and only one female unit in inferno ( haven has 3, not cool)
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted November 30, 2010 09:36 PM |
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I somewhat agree with Vok's drunken ramblings.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted November 30, 2010 10:23 PM |
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Quote: So far imo everything is cool with the game ( even the dragon blood thing, but what kind of use do you have with frozen blood?) except two things : breeder and only one female unit in inferno ( haven has 3, not cool)
Well, technically Inferno has 2 females, as Breeder is also a female. And maybe the baby Imp is also female?
And how do you even tell genders on demons ... maybe the Juggernaut is a female?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 30, 2010 10:32 PM |
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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
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Charrclaw
Known Hero
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posted November 30, 2010 11:54 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: So far imo everything is cool with the game ( even the dragon blood thing, but what kind of use do you have with frozen blood?) except two things : breeder and only one female unit in inferno ( haven has 3, not cool)
Well, technically Inferno has 2 females, as Breeder is also a female. And maybe the baby Imp is also female?
And how do you even tell genders on demons ... maybe the Juggernaut is a female?
My mistake, *humanoid* female shape demons , and breeder is just scary, looks like he would melt in Ashans core. Paint it in green and you have some undead creep.
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Lokheit
Known Hero
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posted December 01, 2010 01:12 AM |
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Quote:
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Quote: So far imo everything is cool with the game ( even the dragon blood thing, but what kind of use do you have with frozen blood?) except two things : breeder and only one female unit in inferno ( haven has 3, not cool)
Well, technically Inferno has 2 females, as Breeder is also a female. And maybe the baby Imp is also female?
And how do you even tell genders on demons ... maybe the Juggernaut is a female?
My mistake, *humanoid* female shape demons , and breeder is just scary, looks like he would melt in Ashans core. Paint it in green and you have some undead creep.
You discriminating the poor ugly, obese, morbid, tentacled chick tsk, tsk, tsk... they deserve some love from you too! Hey, at least you know they are females... not like the sucubus that could be shape-shifted incubus!!
IMO opinion the best looking female unit on the game so far is the fate spinner humanoid form. The sucubus is made to be a seductive temptress (or tempter lol), but the fate spinner looks better in the way she is like a high classic and elegant lady and a exotic and rare one at the same time.
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted December 01, 2010 01:49 AM |
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I don't know how I feel about the breeder. It's fanged, clawed, and gives birth to mean little brats.
One angry vagina if you ask me.
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torzsoktamas
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 01, 2010 12:08 PM |
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Hy!I'm new to the forum,and can't wait to see more news from HVI!I am following this forum a few weaks ago,and taught it would be a good idea to join the discussions.
I think they make a good job,..I like every single creature that has been presented.Honestly I would be more happier with a male angel(seraph),but it is not a ig issue for me.
About the elementals:I really hope to see them in the near future.I think they should be in the elite tier,and should be quite strong,as they weren't that intimidating in the past series.
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bixie
Promising
Legendary Hero
my common sense is tingling!
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posted December 01, 2010 12:26 PM |
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going back to gender myopia for a bit.
the mainiacs are also very clearly male...
they have cod-peices made of steel!!!
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