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lucky_dwarf
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posted February 05, 2011 03:13 AM

Did anyone not notice the several references to Nagas?
Naga poet, Naga General, there was also an interesting Crag Hack hero mentioned on the Harpies unit page.

At least we now know that they officially exist, and don't have to rely on leaked screenies for discussion.
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mytheroes
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posted February 05, 2011 04:43 AM

I think H6 Skeleton model is the best so far, especially the upgraded. They actually made them more intimidating compared with before (H5 Skeleton especially...).

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posted February 05, 2011 05:39 AM

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Radiant Glory and Lich look bad, others look superb or just ok I'm impressed!  

I think part of the reason for the glory is because it is supposed to have an sfx ingame... well i hope it does, i need something to cover up it's ugly.
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posted February 05, 2011 06:14 AM

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Did anyone not notice the several references to Nagas?
Naga poet, Naga General, there was also an interesting Crag Hack hero mentioned on the Harpies unit page.

At least we now know that they officially exist, and don't have to rely on leaked screenies for discussion.

 
    Yea and also got some hints about strategies (somewhere the said they had to change strategy when fighting Fate spinner) which I suppose they are a passive (wait/ possibly some magic buffing) and powerful retaliation (just my opinions) to a faster and direct (considering that the necromancers fight  involves a attrition and long tactical fight whit use of curses to weaken the enemy) one and also the fact that the are a war like society (similar to Feudal Japan, guess they also took  inspiration for the mentality and society of nagas)
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alcibiades
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posted February 05, 2011 08:35 AM

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how can you not like them

Well I don't perticularly like them, but then neither of the previous Skeletons really got me excited, so I guess one is as good as the other. I think the spears look rediculously oversized, and the helmet on the upgraded one is ugly, but the same goes for the upgraded Vampire and the upgraded Lich, which all look like crap.
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kodial79
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posted February 05, 2011 08:54 AM
Edited by kodial79 at 08:55, 05 Feb 2011.

Concerning appearances, best Necropolis remains the H3 one, for me. Only theirs had that haunting presence of an undead menace that I like to see in the Necropolis. H4 was a joke in bad taste, mixing them with demons. H5 was ruined by the cartoonish style. H6 is very good but it feels like an overly specialized magic theme, which is not half bad but it doesn't give off that otherwordly Undead feeling. That said, it's only concerning the appearances and designs of the units. Cause if you take into account that H3's skeletons and zombies had a bad habit of chattering and gossiping about Sandro's love life while on guard duty, well, then that whole haunting presence they had to them, was turning into a bad comedy show. Storywise instead, H6 has the best Necropolis.



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Dave_Jame
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posted February 05, 2011 10:15 AM

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how can you not like them

Well I don't perticularly like them, but then neither of the previous Skeletons really got me excited, so I guess one is as good as the other. I think the spears look rediculously oversized, and the helmet on the upgraded one is ugly, but the same goes for the upgraded Vampire and the upgraded Lich, which all look like crap.


Actuelly, the spears are more or less realistic from there size they are ap. the size of the skeleton with is fine. But the upgraded ones spear is realy "fat".

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Concerning appearances, best Necropolis remains the H3 one, for me. Only theirs had that haunting presence of an undead menace that I like to see in the Necropolis. H4 was a joke in bad taste, mixing them with demons. H5 was ruined by the cartoonish style. H6 is very good but it feels like an overly specialized magic theme, which is not half bad but it doesn't give off that otherwordly Undead feeling. That said, it's only concerning the appearances and designs of the units. Cause if you take into account that H3's skeletons and zombies had a bad habit of chattering and gossiping about Sandro's love life while on guard duty, well, then that whole haunting presence they had to them, was turning into a bad comedy show. Storywise instead, H6 has the best Necropolis.



Can I give you a tip? give a chance to the Heroes 2 necropolis, They have IMHO the best looking skeleton nd the best overall feeling.

I hope that in thei end. The heroes 6 Necropolis will have a better atmospher. I'll just have to wait and see.
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posted February 05, 2011 10:29 AM

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how can you not like them

Well I don't perticularly like them, but then neither of the previous Skeletons really got me excited, so I guess one is as good as the other. I think the spears look rediculously oversized, and the helmet on the upgraded one is ugly, but the same goes for the upgraded Vampire and the upgraded Lich, which all look like crap.


Actuelly, the spears are more or less realistic from there size they are ap. the size of the skeleton with is fine. But the upgraded ones spear is realy "fat".


I think that they are just fine. The skeleton looks really badass. After all it's a skeleton, he's dead and made of bones, when the enemy sees him he has to think "Oh my Elrath! It's a freaking skeleton and we are sooo going down!" It's not a joke skeleton, it's a real thing.
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kodial79
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posted February 05, 2011 10:41 AM

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Can I give you a tip? give a chance to the Heroes 2 necropolis, They have IMHO the best looking skeleton nd the best overall feeling.


Nah, I didn't like them as much. Design-wise, they were very generic when compared to the newer games.
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posted February 05, 2011 11:01 AM

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Can I give you a tip? give a chance to the Heroes 2 necropolis, They have IMHO the best looking skeleton nd the best overall feeling.


Nah, I didn't like them as much. Design-wise, they were very generic when compared to the newer games.


I also think that Heroes II Necropolis creatures are the best in the series so far. They give exactly that feeling of undead menace that you were talking about and design wise they were awesome for the time. About the newer games - I can't see which necro unit is with better design (I'm talking about H3 and H4)...may be the black knight, but this unit was not in H2 lineup.

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Danny
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posted February 05, 2011 11:51 AM

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H4 was a joke in bad taste, mixing them with demons.


Because every fantasy game having undead creatures is amazing, and because it's in the LAW that a Death faction has to consist of decaying versions of regular units mixed with done-to-death ghosts and vampires and they can't be caught ALIVE with anything remotely different, right? To me arguing about which skeleton is better is just as uneventful as arguing about H3 marksman being better dressed up than his H6 counterpart.

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Naze
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posted February 05, 2011 12:38 PM

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I really think they should add Academy/Wizards as the 6th faction. Kinda sad that they have many references yet we can't play as them.


There are also several references to the elves and Irrolan. So we know both the 6th and 7th faction. The only question is, what about dark elves? Lore-wise, they should not be strong enough to form an entire faction... and I would just love to see the original elves, composed both of "wood" and dark ones
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posted February 05, 2011 01:02 PM

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I really think they should add Academy/Wizards as the 6th faction. Kinda sad that they have many references yet we can't play as them.


There are also several references to the elves and Irrolan. So we know both the 6th and 7th faction. The only question is, what about dark elves? Lore-wise, they should not be strong enough to form an entire faction... and I would just love to see the original elves, composed both of "wood" and dark ones


At the time, the necropolis isn't strong enough to form a faction too (they don't have a capital on this game and they are just emancipating from the seven cities). Also I read on an interview that we will know about the dark elves in the nearly future.

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Zenofex
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posted February 05, 2011 01:09 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 13:15, 05 Feb 2011.

Academy can be considered redundant with Necropolis or basically any other (Naga?) magic-orientated faction around which is likely to push forward the "hybrid" elves. A choice that I'll never support because I'm sick and tired of elves, but it's likely nonetheless. In any case, I guess it's already decided and even under development, so there is no point in such theorycrafting.

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alcibiades
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posted February 05, 2011 01:33 PM

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Actuelly, the spears are more or less realistic from there size they are ap. the size of the skeleton with is fine. But the upgraded ones spear is realy "fat".

That's what I mean, it looks not so much like a spear as like a minor trea trunk they're about to haul at their enemies.
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posted February 05, 2011 02:06 PM

 Hmm the spear is to big and "fat" compared to the skeleton, no I think the problem is more serious and more concerning... so this is my issue and view on the mater what if, what IF the skeleton is to "skinny" for the Spear

   But now seriously the spear is over dimensioned for it's purpose because it's design as it is it's not suited for throwing , and although it's not a mistake to be called a spear it would be more appropriated to be called a javelin taking in consideration the fact that is used as projectile weapon
 
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear
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posted February 05, 2011 02:53 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 14:54, 05 Feb 2011.

I think common human skeletons are the best, because they are the backbone of the Necromancer armies. And in all honestly I want them to be generic they are just skeleton warriors, so there is no need to make them all fancy and stuff.
However something I would like to have is skeleton riders, then I don't talk about death knights or any thing like that.
Just skeletons riding on Skeleton horses, boars or wolfs or whatever...
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Dave_Jame
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posted February 05, 2011 04:05 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 16:09, 05 Feb 2011.

@ Nightteror
The first one is something Like I imagine
And the spina snake at the end.. it's beutiffel.. I just fell in love..
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mytheroes
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posted February 05, 2011 04:07 PM

If there is a non-undead in Necro then that creature would have serious disadvantage. You can't raise them back and when you have loads of abilities that only work on undead you can't use them on that creature. Not to mention that the creature could be harmed by attacks like death cloud and such. Of course you could make a non-undead have the attributes of undead but that would be even more nonsensical.

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Lokheit
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posted February 05, 2011 05:19 PM
Edited by Lokheit at 17:22, 05 Feb 2011.

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Well, I can't tell you that this ones isn't a proper skeleton but a creature (a minion, an undead construct that usually doesn't resembles the structure of any creature) named Jagged Horror from Guild Wars. Anyway it would be cool to see something like that on a game, but the idea with the HoMM skeletons is to resemble soldier.

Another cool option would be Guild Wars 2 Bone Minions:


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