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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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posted February 18, 2011 01:47 PM
Edited by Nelgirith at 13:48, 18 Feb 2011.

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Oh, wait... H5 has 9 neutrals? O.O
I believe you're counting expansion neutrals, in that case you also should count bosses (and we get 16 neutrals )

Ok, so we'll put Mother Namtaru in front of every sawmills ... seriously ? Why should the wolf, the mummy and the manticore not count as H5 neutrals ?

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Nelgirith
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posted February 18, 2011 01:55 PM

Well, it's not like we've ever gotten a lot of neutrals in an x-pack and I'm sure more expecting them to give us alternate upgrades () than plenty of neutrals in an add-on

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SkySlam
SkySlam


Adventuring Hero
posted February 18, 2011 02:17 PM

Great news! Of course 8 neutrals isn't an amazing number, but Heroes V had 9 neutrals after 2 expansions, so things are getting better!

And about Heroes 3: if I'm not mistaken, we had 5 neutrals in the base game, and we got the extra ones only after armageddon's blade... so what's the point in comparing?

I got an extra question to insiders, I know they are not allowed to spread new things, so I'll just ask the question in the most vague way:
I heard a rumor saying there will only be catapult as war machine (no tent, no ballista, no ammo)... could it be true? I strongly hope not!

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DoubleDeck
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Look into my eyes...
posted February 18, 2011 02:22 PM

Some questions to ponder and discuss here about the 2nd Q&A video:

- Why does Stronghold not have any bosses?

- May we see the Black Dragon in H6 before the Dark Elves arrive in expansion? (seems to hint at this)

- Will factions fight their own bosses in the campaign or only other factions' bosses?

P.S. - Xhane is quite pretty!

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deadace
deadace


Adventuring Hero
posted February 18, 2011 02:31 PM

With the hint about the developer liking big cats, I'm sure we'll see a leopard or panther as either neutral or boss. It makes sense, with the jaguar warrior in play.

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deadace
deadace


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posted February 18, 2011 02:45 PM

I don't think the storyline dictates how many neutrals/bosses will be in the game, I think the story dictates that Stronghold doesn't have bosses, but this is only a wild guess!
What I do know is that modern games takes a hell of a lot of money and people to create, and the more stuff you put into the games the more expensive and time consuming it'll be to develop! This all comes down to how much money Heroes VI is estimated to bring in after release, and in that estimate, how much time/money has been given to the developer to deliver the next game in the series! In that budget, there was room for 16 neutrals (including bosses), I'm content!

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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted February 18, 2011 02:50 PM

I think Marzhin hinted us that Behemoths and Thunderbirds will return in the coming expansions. I'm sure the Behemoth will be a Stronghold affiliated Boss, if it's gonna return.

The sabertooth tigers/jaguars whatever, will probably be low level neutrals.
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DoubleDeck
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Look into my eyes...
posted February 18, 2011 02:56 PM

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With the hint about the developer liking big cats, I'm sure we'll see a leopard or panther as either neutral or boss. It makes sense, with the jaguar warrior in play.


That seems too close to be affiliated to the Stronghold faction, and they said that Stronghold will have no bosses, so unlikely any jaguar/panther in the mix....

@Nightterror I am involved with someone, but just wanted to say that Xhane looks cute......so glad to see there are Heroes gamers that are hot chicks too!


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Properkheldar
Properkheldar


Famous Hero
Keeper of books
posted February 18, 2011 03:00 PM

I´m just happy to see that the series is getting streamlined and hopefully balanced to promote multiplayer. That is the future, online gaming with "community" tendencies and DLC. They are smart to withhold material for expansions or just smaller DLC-packs. It ensures a steady cash flow (albeit the game is good enough) and keeps the game feeling fresh. Also, the map editor and decent possibilities to "mod" makes the game live on even longer.

I only hope they have plans for more entries on other platforms such as N3DS and Iphone/Ipad. If they just keep the brand on it´s toes this is gonna work out fine and ensure a nice "revival" of Might & Magic.

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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted February 18, 2011 03:08 PM

A speculation about elementals

We have been told that there will by 6 elementals "BUT" no one said that they will by neutral. If The Glory and Spring maiden will take the post of an elemental we have 4 neutral elementals. If the red neutral was in fact the Air elemental as some mentioned we still have 3 free neutral spots

6 elementals(-2)
Dark
Earth
Fire
Air
Light (glory)
Water (spring Maiden)

The Phoenix

In this case 3 are still free.. let us hope this is the fact.. because 6 elementals as neutrals would Kill me.

@Nihtteror:Would it be to cruel to say that Xhana isn't my kind of girl. She looks to innocent and sweet but not exactly pryty by my standards. I do imagine her nicely on a French farm, but I can't imagine myself there

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted February 18, 2011 03:19 PM
Edited by Wckey at 15:22, 18 Feb 2011.

8 neutrals and 8 bosses
I like it. It's not that great, but better than the 5 we got on H5 vanilla. Also if you count bosses there are 16 neutrals (In H5 phoenix are so hard to find that they are probably as rare as the bosses in H6). A good number for start.  

No boss associated to Stronghold :
Like I said before, a good way to put more bosses in expansions without making them simmilar to vanilla bosses. However I would like bosses not related to factions, just to give more diversity. But I guess they had to do this way because of the story.
Now I'm more certain that the 3rd glory, the water based creature and the worm like creature will be bosses.
I hope in H7 factions won't care as much for their gods, leaving some space for new ideas.

Upgrades and hierarchy :
Nothing new. I was hoping for them to confirm if neutrals will have upgrades, but since they usually count upgrades as a different creature, I think it's not this time that we will finally see neutrals having upgrades.

Inferno Champion :
They made a good decision. Seriously, In H3 the devil didn't look too demonic, and in H4 and H5 it was a joke. If they wanted a Devil, change the name of the Pit Lord to Devil and the problem is solved

Vampire Design :
Don't care where did they got inspiration from, but that was indeed a good excuse
I like them. Never played H2, but the H3 and H4 vampires fit as much on the battle as the sister. They have no armor. Don't matter how strong he is, he is still going to a place where almost everyone has weapons that can easily cut them in half

Ylath faction :

Orcs shouldn't be considered Ylath's minions. Otherwise they also are the Eath Dragon god I forgot the name's minions, and that would ruin the whole idea behind Orcs.

Why the Stronghold:
That's all about marketing. An Expansion with orcs is boring. An expansion with wizards or elves or the Black Dragon is a must buy for most of the fans.

Dragons :
With phoenix as neutral, I guess Sylvan is destined to have a Dragon as Champion.
Dungeon might get a black Dragon, and a "Malsara" as a Boss.
But I'm happy that they get rid of Dragons in Necropolis and... well, actually, at this point they only got rid of one Dragon, so we can't really say "OMG! They removed Dragons from the game!".
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deadace
deadace


Adventuring Hero
posted February 18, 2011 03:28 PM

The cover for the game is on facebook now, it's the same as the one shown the other day, so that eliminates the option of it not being the final one. I don't mind it, but isn't blown away by it!
How long before release do companies generally release the cover?

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evinin
evinin


Supreme Hero
Servant of Asha
posted February 18, 2011 03:33 PM

Well... I'm quite disappointed. We didn't actually get much news (or even any). Also I had a hard time trying to understand the English in the clip.
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kodial79
kodial79


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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted February 18, 2011 03:43 PM
Edited by kodial79 at 15:45, 18 Feb 2011.

OK try to fill in the gaps time. Marzhin said we get 8 neutrals and 8 "uber neutrals" AKA Bosses. Let's see what we know, what we can decipher and what is left to find out:

1. Air Elemental
2. Earth Elemental
3. Fire Elemental
4. Water Elemental
5. Phoenix
6. Dragon Eel
7. Archangel Michael
8. Mother Namtaru
9. ? (The worm thing from Sandor's artwork)
10. ? (Marzhin says: We like big cats!)
11. ? (That dark creature from previous screenshot)
12. ? (That feathery creature from previous screenshot)
13. ? (Marzhin says: Who said anything about leaving Black Dragons out?)
14. ?
15. ?
16. ?

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Zeki
Zeki


Supreme Hero
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posted February 18, 2011 03:44 PM

The cover strongly reminds my to Dragon Age. I think this was ubi's goal.
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kodial79
kodial79


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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted February 18, 2011 03:50 PM

If I have to take a wild guess, there's going to be one of the Overlords as a Boss.
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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted February 18, 2011 04:02 PM

I think I should try to approach this by wether they're neutral or bosses

1. Air Elemental (neutral #1)
2. Earth Elemental (neutral #2)
3. Fire Elemental (neutral #3)
4. Water Elemental (neutral #4)
5. ? (Marzhin says: We like big cats!) (probably neutral #5)
6. ? (That feathery creature from previous screenshot) (probably neutral #6)
7. Phoenix (neutral or boss?)
8. ? (That dark creature from previous screenshot) (neutral or boss?)
9. Dragon Eel (boss #1)
10. Archangel Michael (boss #2)
11. Mother Namtaru (boss #3)
12. ? (The worm thing from Sandor's artwork) (probably boss #4)
13. ? (Marzhin says: Who said anything about leaving Black Dragons out?) (Ubisoft confirmed Dragons will be bosses so Boss #5)
14. ?
15. ?
16. ?
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Wckey
Wckey


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posted February 18, 2011 04:04 PM

Well, bosses aren't neutrals, but you can't not count them as creatures

1. Air Elemental
2. Earth Elemental
3. Fire Elemental
4. Water Elemental
5. Phoenix
6. Dragon Eel
7. Archangel Michael
8. Mother Namtaru
9. ? (The worm thing from Sandor's artwork)
10. ? (Marzhin says: We like big cats!)
11. ? (That dark creature from previous screenshot)
12. ? (That feathery creature from previous screenshot)
13. ? (Marzhin says: Who said anything about leaving Black Dragons out?)
14. ? (The glory like creature from the tree)
15. ? (The other woman form the tree)
16. ?

And I still think the feathery creature is the air elemental
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kodial79
kodial79


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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted February 18, 2011 04:05 PM

Yeah that feathery could be an air elemental but I say the chances for it to be actually one, are very slim. I think the glory and the other woman from the tree are heroes. Although a Hero Glory is unlikely...
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alcibiades
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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted February 18, 2011 04:10 PM

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8. ? (That dark creature from previous screenshot) (neutral or boss?)

Elvin said that was an elemental, so pretty sure that would make it a Darkness elemental. Technically, it *could* be a boss, but I hope they'll make all elementals same tier (Elite probably).

Also, if it *is* Darkness Elemental, we will probably see a Light Elemental also.
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