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MrDragon
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posted May 02, 2011 09:59 PM |
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Can't wait to see the inferno warlock heroes 
Your point ?
In our culture, the warlock is someone who broke an oath or the codes of his community. Last I know, in Ashan, all Inferno heroes are humanoids who have been corrupted and decided to side with the Demons. In the Christian "mythology", warlock was the name of the male witches and they were associated to the Devil.
In Dungeons & Dragons, the warlocks are spellcasters who traded their soul for more powers. They are specialized into manipulating the energies of the lower planes (hell) and controlling demons. In World of Warcraft, warlocks are spellcasters wielding the powers of corruption and destruction and who can control demons.
Conclusion : The Warlock name fits perfectly to the Inferno Magic Hero.
For the record, I tried to point this out 3 times already!
You're just much more eloquent and detailed here. ;_;
Good jub!
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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
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posted May 02, 2011 10:05 PM |
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Edit 2: VVV Are you referring to Crag Hack?
(presuming that was aimed at me) Here is a bit of light reading for you on the subject of re-occuring characters in the franchise. You'll see that just about none of the characters in Heroes I originated in that game, so "recycling" characters and reinventing them on different worlds is in fact an integral and long-running quality of the Might and Magic series. It's also a nice way to celebrate 25 years by doing it again with Ashan.
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In our culture, the warlock is someone who broke an oath or the codes of his community. Last I know, in Ashan, all Inferno heroes are humanoids who have been corrupted and decided to side with the Demons. In the Christian "mythology", warlock was the name of the male witches and they were associated to the Devil.
To lend support to your case, don't forget about the first ever named Warlock in the entire series, Ornean, who ponced around in full-blown allegiance to his demon and devil comrades in Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra, all the way back in 1991. In my opinion it would be much more egregious, as far as continuity is concerned, if the Warlocks weren't allied to the Devils.
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Avirosb
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posted May 02, 2011 10:33 PM |
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Oh great, they're going to turn Sandro into a dragon worshipper, aren't they 
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War-overlord
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posted May 02, 2011 10:37 PM |
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Oh great, they're going to turn Sandro into a dragon worshipper, aren't they
If he remains his glorious magnificent b@st@rd self, I couldn't care less.
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Cepheus
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posted May 02, 2011 10:38 PM |
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You're insulting Sandro's intelligence 
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Elvin
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posted May 02, 2011 10:52 PM |
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To lend support to your case, don't forget about the first ever named Warlock in the entire series, Ornean, who ponced around in full-blown allegiance to his demon and devil comrades in Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra, all the way back in 1991. In my opinion it would be much more egregious, as far as continuity is concerned, if the Warlocks weren't allied to the Devils.
Hmm didn't know that. Either way it doesn't bother me as much anymore, if inferno is mostly focused on chaos/destructive spells warlock is the natural choice. That of course begs the question what the dungeon emblematic hero will be but if their theme has indeed changed it would be an equal blasphemy to call them warlocks. I'll keep the faith for now 
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Avirosb
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posted May 02, 2011 10:55 PM |
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Or rather the intelligence of the writers.
But who knows what the future will bring.
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dave_jame
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posted May 02, 2011 11:26 PM |
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Well there us always a combined elven faction white the sylvan there bring the tear there and the dark elf the blood hero
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted May 02, 2011 11:27 PM |
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INFERNO
* Strenths: Deadly magic, unparalleled stamina, luck is always on their side.
Is Inferno now overtaking dungeon and elven role!? What I want to say is that now they have powerful spell casters (trademark of dungeon) + luck (which was more trademark of the elves). Is that a right thing to do? What will be left for dungeon and elves!?
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Elvin
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posted May 02, 2011 11:48 PM |
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Inferno doesn't quite cover the graceful elf gameplay
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted May 02, 2011 11:51 PM |
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It definitely stole their luck which is one of the most important thing while playing with elves... And of course that demons aren't graceful...
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Elvin
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posted May 02, 2011 11:54 PM |
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Did it? Sanctuary is defensive and so is haven yet each plays nothing like the other.
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Jabanoss
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posted May 03, 2011 12:05 AM |
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Inferno has always have strong ties with Luck based stuff. After all they worship Urgash, the guy of choas.
Choas == Luck...
however I do not like if they have uber powerful spells, like Dungeon. :/
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted May 03, 2011 12:08 AM |
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Haven
* Strengths: Buffing and healing magic, highly resilient troops, very high morale.
* Weaknesses: Limited ranged offense, limited aggressiveness.
* Racial ability: Guardian Angel – a friendly stack becomes impervious to damage and ill-effects.
Sanctuary
*Strengths: Powerful triggered buffs and crowd control abilities, balanced units (offense / defense, no martial weakness)
*Weaknesses: Limited ranged abilities, no burst / instant effects, no healing, expensive troops
*Racial ability: Honor – It grants an all-purpose defensive blessing.
Well, I agree. When we analyse them, both are defensive oriented but:
Haven while having high defense in general they are relying on healing and invulnerability (RA)
Sanctuary has balanced stats (which isn't the same as having high defense) but it is relying on having the highest defense with RA
But how can luck be achieved or should I say be played in two different ways? I can't see or understand that. But don't tell me that one will decrease luck while other will increase it...
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Azagal
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posted May 03, 2011 12:46 AM |
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Inferno doesn't quite cover the graceful elf gameplay
Round 1.
Academy Titan does his I'm looking very far pose
Alright guys stay in tight formations turtle like your life depending on it and look intellectual and let our silly automatons and basterd chemical children take all the damage got that? Good now let me see wether the Elves are co....
5 UNITS REACH THE FRONT IN 2 TURNS AND DRAGONS BLAST EVERYTHING TO PIECES SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... NOTHING REMAINS
Yeah graceful indeed .
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted May 03, 2011 12:50 AM |
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What the... 
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Elvin
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posted May 03, 2011 12:53 AM |
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You expect grace from guys looking like this?
I swear, H5 made elves looking like psychopaths A trend I'd like to see changed including the damn donkey ears.
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted May 03, 2011 01:14 AM |
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Well, generally speaking, elves are graceful beings, and definitely more graceful than demons. H5 elves aren't the most graceful type of elves, but isn't the war dance of war dancers a graceful dance?
By the way, you are the one who started talking about grace ...
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Fauch
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posted May 03, 2011 02:45 AM |
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actually, I think sanctuary is defensive more in the way that it uses crowd control abilities. I mean, like the water elemental in H4. he is physically weak, but since most ennemies just can't reach him, it's no problem
now, there are some things I find funny :
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Military weaknesses
Limited mobility, slow troops, few support abilities.
few supports abilities lol. 2 units who can heal allies. it is the most we ever had in any homm town so far
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Stronghold warfare: “Rush now, think later!”
Orcs were created as shock troops to fight Demons, and their tactics reflect this. Lightly armored and heavily armed, they rush straight at the enemy, counting on their numbers, speed, ferocity and toughness to break the lines of the opposing army without suffering too many casualties.
weirdly they have the most cowardly army. goblins and centaurs avoid direct melee combat and harpies flee has soon as they strike.
and the shaman doesn't look like the guy who will rush either lol
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Brukernavn
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posted May 03, 2011 04:25 AM |
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Hey guys (and girls ), the info about the delay and the beta is coming next week. Thank you very much for your patience
I'm guessing we won't get anything before Friday, but you never know...
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