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Elvin
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posted June 04, 2011 11:47 PM

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new shiny town full screens.

Elvin, Why did you say that. Now I think that Blackhole guys are making fullscreen town views because fans were outrage because of town little windows.

That was just an example, not an allusion of what is actually happening. They are definitely aware of the issue though. Who knows

@Polyglot
There are plenty of things that take loads of time and then there are few things that take little time. I think you get the idea. A couple of minor additions are not going to get in the way of the more important stuff.
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War-overlord
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posted June 05, 2011 12:06 AM
Edited by War-overlord at 10:44, 05 Jun 2011.

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Also I wouldn't call TB great, don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of TB, but he himself likes to remind people: he's a random british guy who talks about video games. As much as I respect that, find him entertaining and follow his shows religiously, he's got a point.
Back in his Blue-Please days on WoW-radio (yeah I'm a bit of a TB veteran) he also responded much more enthuisiastically to people who jokingly insulted him in their e-mails then people who verbally grovelled before him.


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Yes, well I have also called Strong Bad an enlightened philosopher, Statler and Waldorf wisened sages and Guybrush Threepwood a visionary leader in the past. I tend to humorously overpraise people, fictional or otherwise, who make a point and make it bluntly. Don't read to much into the praise and read much more in the statements I quote or paraphrase.
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posted June 05, 2011 11:54 AM

Any tips what the next "Special week" is going to be focused on, if there is going to be one?

I would welcome the neutrals, or side plot characters.
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The_Polyglot
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posted June 05, 2011 01:35 PM

@Elvin: Yeah, yeah, I get that, I was just being a selfish ****
Everyone is entitled to a little whining once in a while, don't You think?

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Elvin
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posted June 05, 2011 01:46 PM

Damn straight
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posted June 05, 2011 04:52 PM

i've been doing some thinking. why are the snow maiden and spring spirit human-looking? If the naga are the chose of the water dragon god, why did the dragon water god create these elementals that look human instead of naga? anyone got a good answer?

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posted June 05, 2011 04:58 PM

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i've been doing some thinking. why are the snow maiden and spring spirit human-looking? If the naga are the chose of the water dragon god, why did the dragon water god create these elementals that look human instead of naga? anyone got a good answer?


For the same reason we have human sanctuary
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posted June 05, 2011 05:20 PM

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i've been doing some thinking. why are the snow maiden and spring spirit human-looking? If the naga are the chose of the water dragon god, why did the dragon water god create these elementals that look human instead of naga? anyone got a good answer?


they are no elementals,they are spirit beings and it was never stated,that they or the naga were created by a shalassa(the water dragon god).
So they are just different species,if you ask why the snow maiden and the spring spirit don't look like naga you it is as if you would ask why the griffins don't look like humans.

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MrDragon
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posted June 05, 2011 05:47 PM

Actually it has been stated the Naga were created by Shallasa.
The elder races, humans, faceless, angels, elves, dwarves and naga were created as servants of the elemental dragons.
Elemental spirits simiarly being bound to the dragons is pretty much a given.
Actually it's much more odd that so many species are humanoid or resemble humans, heck why are most of the elder races mammals?!

Personally, if I were a Dragon God, I would have created a species of Lizardfolk, it's a small stretch from bipedal prehistoric predators, is to a Dragon God a much more familiar shape.... and is obviously much cooler.

Why are Humans aligned with air anyway? they can't even fly, angels can fly and are physically and mystically much more powerful.
What did the goddess  of light get a bigger magic budget to work with then air?
Looks like Light, Darkness and Water got much more powerful species then Fire, Earth and Air, who completely got shafted and practically copied each other's designs, fire making his a bit shorter and tougher and earth probably had the smallest budget, could only afford to make the female version of her species.

My opinion on "Ashan's origin story" expressed numerically: 1/10.
I actually don't hate Ashan itself, but some parts of it smell a little silly.

My point: it doesn't make sense, and though it would be better if it did, I'll live with it.
But yes, I also find it strange the yuki-onna and spring spirit are human shaped.

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The_Polyglot
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posted June 05, 2011 06:44 PM

Or it could be that they're simply easier to draw. It would not be the first time for that to be a decisive factor...

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War-overlord
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posted June 05, 2011 07:28 PM
Edited by War-overlord at 19:30, 05 Jun 2011.

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Actually it has been stated the Naga were created by Shallasa.
The elder races, humans, faceless, angels, elves, dwarves and naga were created as servants of the elemental dragons.
Elemental spirits simiarly being bound to the dragons is pretty much a given.
Actually it's much more odd that so many species are humanoid or resemble humans, heck why are most of the elder races mammals?!



Ah, but this is where ye be wrong. The Elemental Gods did not create the their own Servant-Elder Race. It be the Elder Races that chose their Patron God. Yes the Elder Races were created to be the Servants of the Gods, but they chose their own master.
Read ye here, squire.
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Avirosb
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posted June 05, 2011 07:42 PM

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Dragons are like the “Force” in Star Wars and the Dragon Knights are like the Jedi Knights.

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MrDragon
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posted June 05, 2011 08:24 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 20:35, 05 Jun 2011.

My point still stands even if they were not created by the elemental dragon gods.
If they were created by Asha it's still weird, the races are still lop-sidedly divided and totally alien and illogical shapes from a draconic perspective.
Bearing in mind Ashan's dragons are possibly the blandest I've seen in a while.

Personally my biggest beef is with the down-playing of Urgash.
Surely Chaos is a much more vital principle in growth and creation then Order, Order restricts whilst Chaos is endless.
The concept doesn't sit with me.

Take other origin myths involving Chaos, heck lets dragon it up as well.
Tiamat from Babylonian myth is a Dragon of Chaos, a terrible beast that created the universe and the first deities, she later wars with her descendants and is slain by Marduk and the Heavens and Earth are formed from her body.
As far as myth can make sense, the traditional concepts of primordial chaos seem much more logical as a creationary force, and in fact almost every mythology begins with chaos for this reason.
Heck in Greek Myth, Chaos is actually depicted as part of the family of deities, it gives birth to Nyx and then with Nyx together births Erebus which in turn births with Nyx Aether and Hemera who are the parents of Geia who gives birth to Oranous with whom she has countless children including the Titans.

HoMM has always and will always draw from established myth, possibly twisting and changing a few things to fit their lore, but Order as the principal force of creation makes no sense from a mythological, philosophical, traditional or even logical point of view.

The origin myth is simple, yet weird and vague.
I can't find anything to like about it, and this is all compounded by the common nature of the human shape in supernatural beings that are supposed to be tied to the essence of decidedly un-human entities.
If it was the elemental dragon gods or Asha who created the elder races isn't relevant, the fact that they were created the way they are is.

Despite that, I still think Ashan has great potential for interesting stories, the complex politics of the Haven faction seem like a good base for many interesting stories.
I love me some good ol' fashioned cloak and dagger.

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Elvin
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posted June 05, 2011 08:29 PM

Chaos starts first naturally but order steps in to temper it. WHO'S THE B1ATCH NOW?!
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted June 05, 2011 08:32 PM

All forces in nature aim for chaos. And we all know nature beats humanity.

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Elvin
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posted June 05, 2011 08:33 PM

Right cause humankind is the best representative of order
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What if Elvin was female?
posted June 05, 2011 08:35 PM

Besides of alien demons, yeah.
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Avirosb
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posted June 05, 2011 08:50 PM

Kreegans über alles

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MrDragon
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posted June 05, 2011 08:58 PM

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Chaos starts first naturally but order steps in to temper it. WHO'S THE B1ATCH NOW?!

Order, because it always fails.
Order can always enforce structure on a limited amount of Chaos, but Chaos is infinitely diverse and flexible.
Heck even in Ashan, Chaos has never been fully defeated, and it is always the aggressor, Order can only hold out against it and every time only narrowly escapes it's defeat.

So Order is the B1ATCH, or to be more specific, the impotent Control Freak.

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Elvin
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posted June 05, 2011 09:08 PM

Oh yeah? Chaos is but our inability to perceive patterns of order. How's that?

PS do watch the secret life of chaos on youtube, you should find it interesting.
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