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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted December 26, 2010 10:22 PM

@Zenofex

Ok, I mostly agree with you on how carefully such a matter should be handled, although the example with the real life people was kinda far off. I'm afraid though that Ubisoft has the "we're the boss" attitude, and they're sure they can get away with it all. Oh not just getting way with it all, but getting away richer too.

But is it really up to them? One new detailed that I noticed, is that little piece of information from facebook, is signed by someone called Marzhin. I'm not sure but I think this man is involved with writing H6's storyline or something like that. Perhaps anyone else knows?

Anyway, don't jump the gun and think it's gonna be a cross-over already. What we have is the possibility for one in the future, and that's all. Nobody's saying that those two worlds are about to collide. So there's no need to worry about reasons and excuses just yet, if anything you can be hopeful that something good might turn out of all of that.
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posted December 26, 2010 10:33 PM

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But is it really up to them? One new detailed that I noticed, is that little piece of information from facebook, is signed by someone called Marzhin. I'm not sure but I think this man is involved with writing H6's storyline or something like that. Perhaps anyone else knows?



As far as we know he is not. Marzhin is a real boffin when it comes to the old continuum of M&M. He was the one who wrote the storylines of the LotA mods.
However, as far as we know Marzhin is involved as a consultant when it comes to mapmaking, not storyline.
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Omnipotence
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posted December 27, 2010 12:59 AM

In my opinion, so long as they have different models for might and magic, male and female, and unique (genies, minotaurs, etc.), I don't care if the heroes are new, old, or even heathen .
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posted December 27, 2010 01:04 AM
Edited by Jabanoss at 01:06, 27 Dec 2010.

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THey need to create only a few heroes, maximum of 40, and all unique models and all something really unique during the battle.

Not many heroes that nobody cares for.

WHAAAT?! are you kidding me? there should be an abundance of heroes, like at least a 100 of them. But rather more, there should be kinda the amout that it was in heroes 3. Only that ALL of the heroes have unique specialties.
In heroes 3 they had (I think) 16 heroes in each faction.
In heroes 6 they have 5 faction so I demand AT LEAST the same amount of heroes in each faction.
Never again do I want to play a heroes game like the 5th one, where there only where 8 heroes in each faction

NEVER, NEVER AGAIN I TELL YA!
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And of course all people go against this...

They don't care if there are only 30 creatures, but the heroes need to come in the 100 different portraits? Yeah right.

I want it the other way around.

Well I want it both ways...
Heroes to me should be with a HUGE amount of heroes AND creatures
and it's not the portraits that I care about but the specialties ofc
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Jabanoss
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posted December 27, 2010 01:18 AM
Edited by Jabanoss at 01:19, 27 Dec 2010.

Who cares for their back-story or personality?
That is boring.(Or no it isn't, I just don't want that to stop me from having a plethora of different heroes with cool specialties.)

I mean I don't want to have to play with the same boring heroes when playing a certain faction over and over again. Dungeon in H5 were my favorite, but with only 8 heroes you get bored kinda quickly.

For example the H5 Fortress were not only the most boring one because of its units but also because the only had 8 Über boring heroes-es.


Hmm but I wonder how things will be now when you can create your own heroes........
None of my problems might even be an issue, well I can only hope
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SwampLord
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posted December 27, 2010 03:19 PM
Edited by SwampLord at 15:20, 27 Dec 2010.

Heroes II and Heroes III were full of great humor! Long live the text boxes!

I thought SoD was actually good, but there's plenty of great humor in Heroes III; Sir Mullich's campaign, for instance.
That was maybe the thing I missed the most in HV, even more than Fortress; the humor and charm just weren't there to the same degree. Hearing text boxes will be returning really got my hopes for HVI up.
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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted December 27, 2010 03:24 PM

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Heroes II and Heroes III were full of great humor! Long live the text boxes!

I thought SoD was actually good, but there's plenty of great humor in Heroes III; Sir Mullich's campaign, for instance.
That was maybe the thing I missed the most in HV, even more than Fortress; the humor and charm just weren't there to the same degree. Hearing text boxes will be returning really got my hopes for HVI up.


Silly doesn't mean bad. And compared to the wooden voice acting of H5, I much rather have the text boxes of H3.

The SoD story is overall enjoyable, even if there's one too many giggles and facepalms to be had.
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Cepheus
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posted December 27, 2010 03:38 PM

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Gelu sat in his tent that morning and contemplated his life.  He's learned the ways of battle, the ways of stealth and spying, but none of that training prepared him for the consequences of mistakes.  The day of redemption shall come one day for him, but that day is not today.  First, he must do his part in the destruction of this Sandro and his armies of the undead.  Stopping this madman will, at least in part, balance his soul against the mistakes he made and the suffering he caused when he destroyed those AvLee lords.  Perhaps then the demons of sleep will allow him peace at last.


Pure levity
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posted December 27, 2010 03:50 PM

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Gelu lay in his hammock that morning and contemplated his life.  He's learned the ways of battle, the ways of stealth and spying, but none of that training prepared him for the consequences of mistakes.  The day of redemption shall come one day for him, but that day is not today.  First, he must do his grocery shopping, and then his laundry.  Cleaning his apartment will, at least in part, balance his soul against the mistakes he made and the suffering he caused when he destroyed those AvLee lords.  Perhaps then the demons of sleep will allow him peace at last.  But probably not.


Fixed.

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Elvin
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posted December 27, 2010 04:21 PM
Edited by Elvin at 16:32, 27 Dec 2010.

@kodial79
I love Monty Python and Mel Brooks, just saying that the content is not quite comparable. The one campaign they really went overboard with the hilarity was sir Christian's unlockable campaign in AB. That was so much win



Meanwhile here's a comment from Paul Romero on the medley link.

I want to create a special HMM III medley as a separate piece of music in the future. Perhaps for a future Video Games Live tour? Or perhaps for classical orchestras to play like the Los Angeles Philharmonic. This hopefully I just the beginning of HMM music to be heard and seen live! Thank for all your support of mine and Rob King's music!

Paul

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SkrentyzMienty
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posted December 27, 2010 04:37 PM

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Who cares about the heroes? Its really only a portrait... for the rest its all the same models in game.


I care!
and I care a lot! and trust me i am not alone..
as well as i care about the lore and storyline!

what differs a Good game from a Great game???
think about it...



For me? Its units, magic, specials, items, abilities, gameplay, originality.

Heroes and storyline are not really that appealing to me, especially because I never liked the heroes-based storyline to begin with.

If they made the heroes different than probably I would feel different about them, but in all the games the heroes felt pretty much the same to me.


@Nightterror, you are not alone with your priorities

And also, I would like to add (maybe you had this on your mind too, but I just want to mention it) that it would be great if Hero MODELS were unique (so we don't have to watch e.g. Jhora from H5 Academy look like a tiny old bearded man with a turban on ). OR at LEAST have 4 models (might female&male, magic male&female). But still I think if Heroes looked the same in-game as they do on portraits, it would be a very positive addition to HOMM.
What they did with in-game Heroes in H5 is a disgrace, even less complex than H3, but the different mounts for each faction were nice.

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SwampLord
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posted December 27, 2010 04:47 PM
Edited by SwampLord at 16:49, 27 Dec 2010.

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@kodial79
I love Monty Python and Mel Brooks, just saying that the content is not quite comparable. The one campaign they really went overboard with the hilarity was sir Christian's unlockable campaign in AB. That was so much win



Meanwhile here's a comment from Paul Romero on the medley link.

I want to create a special HMM III medley as a separate piece of music in the future. Perhaps for a future Video Games Live tour? Or perhaps for classical orchestras to play like the Los Angeles Philharmonic. This hopefully I just the beginning of HMM music to be heard and seen live! Thank for all your support of mine and Rob King's music!

Paul



HIII medley?

Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes! And bring it to the States!
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maken
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posted December 27, 2010 05:00 PM

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at LEAST have 4 models (might female&male, magic male&female)


I think the least they can do is not only might/magic and male/female, but instead of might/magic they should do different for all classes (including advanced ones) and male/female. Come on, if the guy gave his best to become the most order-ish paladin or the most chaotic hell knight, he needs some visual signs of that.

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Orfinn
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posted December 27, 2010 05:53 PM
Edited by Orfinn at 17:56, 27 Dec 2010.

IMO. It seems that there are at least three groups of fans for this franchise. Making all these arguments here around, quite messy, wild and funny

Die-Hard Loyalists - These fellas want only the old universe of HOMM, M&M and Kings Bounty nothing more. They are very sceptical to new changes, both to lore and gameplay. For example >H4, H5<.

Ignorant Newcomers - Dudes and dudettes who are pretty new to the franchise, having only played a minimum of 1-3 games of either M&M, HOMM and/or Kings Bounty (the old and the new). They feel mostly comfortable with shiny graphics and bland story, they really dont care much of how the franchise was before and could go and suck dust for all they care, bad graphics on them old games you know, "no" gameplay at all..

Abstract Mergers - A mix of the above who have mindblowing experience and ideas for something constructive and try to merge together lore, gameplay and inventions to a logical and pleasing soup for everyone to enjoy from both the old and new regarding the franchise. Also got the hardest vision/job though...

I must say Im of the latter. I want the best of both sides without mistakes


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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted December 27, 2010 06:17 PM

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IMO. It seems that there are at least three groups of fans for this franchise. Making all these arguments here around, quite messy, wild and funny

Die-Hard Loyalists - These fellas want only the old universe of HOMM, M&M and Kings Bounty nothing more. They are very sceptical to new changes, both to lore and gameplay. For example >H4, H5<.

Ignorant Newcomers - Dudes and dudettes who are pretty new to the franchise, having only played a minimum of 1-3 games of either M&M, HOMM and/or Kings Bounty (the old and the new). They feel mostly comfortable with shiny graphics and bland story, they really dont care much of how the franchise was before and could go and suck dust for all they care, bad graphics on them old games you know, "no" gameplay at all..

Abstract Mergers - A mix of the above who have mindblowing experience and ideas for something constructive and try to merge together lore, gameplay and inventions to a logical and pleasing soup for everyone to enjoy from both the old and new regarding the franchise. Also got the hardest vision/job though...

I must say Im of the latter. I want the best of both sides without mistakes




There's some of us who played both old games and new but just like the new ones better. Not everyone who likes H5 better than H3 (At least when it comes to concept and themes it played on) is an ignorant newcomer.

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posted December 27, 2010 06:22 PM

It's weird for some people saying that H6 is heading in the wrong directions with only having 3 resources and so on and so forth. Trying to make it seem like previous heroes games formula should not be broken and had it right and all of a sudden finding themselves defending those, well then play those and don't play H6 !! Fat chance, they will still play H6 because deep down it gets better and better and they know it.

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SwampLord
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posted December 27, 2010 06:41 PM
Edited by SwampLord at 18:42, 27 Dec 2010.

I will certainly buy and play HVI, regardless of whether or not I approve of every aspect of it, but it's a mistake to suggest that it's better simply because it's the newest installment. Heroes V was a better game than Heroes III in some ways (tactical depth comes to mind) but regressed in others (hero classes and numbers comes to mind); it was not better simply because of its sequel status. So that's why it's important to look at every aspect of Heroes VI, especially since the developers are actually in touch with us this time; we can help make Heroes VI the best game possible.
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Aatos
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posted December 27, 2010 07:29 PM
Edited by Aatos at 19:31, 27 Dec 2010.

A good Heroes player is one who considers the time when the game was created, the time it took to create the game, the money which was invested in the game, the money which is expected to be earned from the game, the company which is publishing the game and the company which is developing the game.
A good Heroes player likes and plays a Heroes game as it is and together with other Heroes players discusses opinions and suggestions for possible changes in the current or next game which would improve the already created game and correspond to the fantasy world of the game.
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posted December 27, 2010 09:28 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 21:29, 27 Dec 2010.

Hey, all, why the Seraphs are with 2 wings only? They use to have 6...
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Aatos
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posted December 27, 2010 10:03 PM

@VokialBG I guess that is how the developers imagined the Heroes Seraphs to be like. Maybe the model in the game will be different. I think it would have been better if they had introduced a more unique and innovative creature rather than the classic bird wing angel.
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