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FoxTactic
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 30, 2013 03:03 PM |
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Soundstuttering
Hi guys!
Just wanted to say what a great mod this is, really brings new life to one of my favorite games.
However i seem to have an a sound issue which i cant seem to resolve.
The way i installed heroes3: Installed Heroes 3 gog, installed era mod 2,4, patched with 2,4 to 2,43 and put the era2,5 dll in there. then installed the Hirez mod.
It runs just perfect but when i run it with the HiRez mod there seems to be sound stuttering when i exit the town or end my turn. This also gradually builds up untill all the sound in the game stutters.
What i've tried so far:
*Thought it was cpu related so i turned off Cpupatch both in heroes3.ini and in the _HD3_.ini
*Used the wog manager to turn off "mp3 44hz patch.bin.off"
*Turned off Stereo44Music and AsyncSounds in _HD3_.ini
*Tried running the game in different compatibilty modes.
Some of these seemed to help the sound stuttering a bit, but as i mentioned before it still gradually builds up untill i have to restart the game.
I have no problem with this sound problem running the original H3Era.exe
Running the hirez mod on vanilla heroes 3 also works just fine, no sound stuttering.
So it must be something between these mods that isnt correct?
But i really want to use the Hirez on Era mod.
Have you guys any idea where the problem might be located?
(Also i might recommend you guys trying to swap out the heroes 3 mp3s with the ones from heroes 4. It really bring new life to heroes 3. The terrain songs are just pure awesome.
"No this is not related to my sound stuttering issue ^^")
Im running Windows 7 64 bit with X-Fi titanium soundcard.
Thanks in advance.
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted May 30, 2013 04:53 PM |
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Hi, FoxTactic. Thank you for feedback.
Unfortunately, it's really hard to suggest you anything, because you did everything well, including testing all possible options. Did you experiment with different HD draw modes? GDI, MMX? Maybe there is any dependency between them and game speed. Anyway, the problem seems to be really strange, especially because there are not so many things that I can turn off in Era to influence the sound.
Try switching "remove black screens.bin" off. It controls the pause on entering/leaving town. Also it would be nice to know what mods you play with.
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Foxtactic
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 30, 2013 10:37 PM |
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Hi!
Removing black screen didnt help.
I've gone as far as to say i cant solve this problem so i guess i have to run the game without hirez. No matter, playing with my friend is the important part.
But now i have a different issue when playing Tcp\ip with my friend.
We are both running Heroes 3 gog with just Era 2,4 installed, no other patches or mods or any changes to settings or files.
The setting we use in the wog menu are just the default ones, when pressing "Default".
The problem is that after a couple of days one of us randomly drops out to windows, This occurs at the end of the turn, no error message or anything. This bug or a similar problem was reported by a guy on page 36 and was due to a quicksave script?
Is there anything that comes to mind that can cause this otherwise?
From page 36 in this thread:
- TCP/IP Multiplayer crashes - Random player drops or client crashes at end turn (either for the host or the client) (possibly related to autosave? Tried playing a bit with the custom Quick Saving script turned off and it didn't crash so it could be this)
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted May 30, 2013 10:43 PM |
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I'm going to investigate this issue deeply in the nearest future.
Try settings SavedGameExtraBlockSize=4000000 at both sides in heroes3.ini.
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blackstomper
Adventuring Hero
Member of the old Wog-team
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posted May 31, 2013 02:06 PM |
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What resolution do you use in the HD mod?
I vagely remember that if I used anything but 1240*768 and Orginal 16bit colour I got some errors.
And I think it was sound related, but I can be wrong.
its an easy thing to change and check if it helps 
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FoxTactic
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 01, 2013 10:50 AM |
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Quote:
What resolution do you use in the HD mod?
I vagely remember that if I used anything but 1240*768 and Orginal 16bit colour I got some errors.
And I think it was sound related, but I can be wrong.
its an easy thing to change and check if it helps
Thanks for the reply,
No it didnt help either, i even had sound stuttering in the main menu when pushing diffrent buttons.
When me and my friend played tcp\ip we tried turning off quicksave in the wog menu, and we were able to play through the first month before any of us crashed to desktop, but it still happend once, maybe this was related to an old heroes 3 problem?
However we were able to autosave and just continue playing.
We did find an odd bug though with the living skull script. When my friend used the living skull to collect "Shackles of war", he later on went to the same spot were it had been teleported from, and collected the mithril that was in same spot that the artifact used to be. When he tried picking up the resource he got an syntax error regarding artifacts and resources, it didnt matter if we autosaved, if he tried to pick it up, it crashed.
Anything you know of?
Thanks!
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted June 01, 2013 11:36 AM |
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Upload save before picking the mithril, please.
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FoxTactic
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 01, 2013 12:00 PM |
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Hi!
[url]http://www.sendspace.com/file/ahbozj[/url]
Heres is the save with me and my friend playing, im playing inferno and he's playing stronghold, and he's just about to fight some ogre mages to pick up the mithril in the swamp.
I cant seem to get to his turn by loading this match in single player.
Maybe you can?
Thank you!
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helluxzi
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 02, 2013 01:02 PM |
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Hello Guys i have problem with era 2 cant enter to map any sugestion what i need to do ?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted June 02, 2013 01:33 PM |
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Foxtactic, the mithril pile is corrupted. Why and when it did, I can't say, I visited the skull and asked for several artefacts on map, then it replaced them correctly with a mithril pile, so the script is working. I suggest to get WoG revised mod then play with it, as it will remove certain buggy scripts, other than that I can't find from your save why the pile is wrong, I would need the exact save when your friend asked for that artefact.
Helluxzi
I tried your list of mods and I could start a map. So the problem is either bad install (maybe you installed era over wog?) or the map you are trying to play has something wrong.
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted June 02, 2013 03:24 PM |
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Installed on WoG probably. Also Covenant Town + Phoenix is a bad idea.
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helluxzi
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 02, 2013 07:00 PM |
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Quote:
Foxtactic, the mithril pile is corrupted. Why and when it did, I can't say, I visited the skull and asked for several artefacts on map, then it replaced them correctly with a mithril pile, so the script is working. I suggest to get WoG revised mod then play with it, as it will remove certain buggy scripts, other than that I can't find from your save why the pile is wrong, I would need the exact save when your friend asked for that artefact.
Helluxzi
I tried your list of mods and I could start a map. So the problem is either bad install (maybe you installed era over wog?) or the map you are trying to play has something wrong.
yeah I instal era on wog its wrong ? delate all instal heroes sod next era and next wog or what ?
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FoxTactic
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 02, 2013 07:57 PM |
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Quote:
Foxtactic, the mithril pile is corrupted. Why and when it did, I can't say, I visited the skull and asked for several artefacts on map, then it replaced them correctly with a mithril pile, so the script is working. I suggest to get WoG revised mod then play with it, as it will remove certain buggy scripts, other than that I can't find from your save why the pile is wrong, I would need the exact save when your friend asked for that artefact.
Helluxzi
I tried your list of mods and I could start a map. So the problem is either bad install (maybe you installed era over wog?) or the map you are trying to play has something wrong.
Ok thanks!
Should i install Era 2,43 update before installing wog_revised?
Thanks.
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Dr_Zomboss
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 02, 2013 08:21 PM |
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Hellzuxi you must download era 2 in SoD or Complete because i had the same problem but after that i install the era 2 in my h3 complete i solve the problem.Try it.
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted June 02, 2013 08:29 PM |
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Should i install Era 2,43 update before installing wog_revised?
It does not matter.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted June 02, 2013 11:16 PM |
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helluxzi, it is clearly specified in main post of this thread that era must be installed on SoD/complete, not wog. Era has already all wog elements in.
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Era II mods and utilities
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FoxTactic
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 04, 2013 04:43 PM |
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Quote:
Hi, FoxTactic. Thank you for feedback.
Unfortunately, it's really hard to suggest you anything, because you did everything well, including testing all possible options. Did you experiment with different HD draw modes? GDI, MMX? Maybe there is any dependency between them and game speed. Anyway, the problem seems to be really strange, especially because there are not so many things that I can turn off in Era to influence the sound.
Try switching "remove black screens.bin" off. It controls the pause on entering/leaving town. Also it would be nice to know what mods you play with.
Hey again guys!
I managed to resolve the issue. But the solution is somewhat odd.
I once had a "similar" problem with Warhammer 40k when running multiple mods including res mods but there the whole game would stutter,
The solution there was to open a few dlls including the execute file to allow it to handle >2 gb adresses.
So i thought, what the hell, might aswell try it 
I opened h3era.exe with cff explorer and changed the address space.
and voila, problem solved, no more stuttering sound.
Just thought i'd post it here incase someone have a similar problem.
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted June 04, 2013 08:43 PM |
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Thank you. It's a valuable advice. I wrote it down.
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Thebeavers1
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 07, 2013 07:48 AM |
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When Im playing Era in multiplayer (and possibly single player) the game seems to want to crash for no apparent reason, I am playing with WOG and mods installed in order top to bottom of mod manager:
XXL
NIM RAMPART
Unmounted Heroes
New Interface Mod
New Commanders Pack
Secondary Skills scrolling
Yona
Fast Battle Animation
WOG
Also If you need an error report Which One do I give? I see the Wog one but not sure if thats the right one.
I found this in an error log with a weird name that has both dates it crashed on and todays crash says this: :::>>> Wed Jun 05 22:12:43 2013 2004.9.23.810 <Utils.cpp; LoadImageA; line 681> File "NONE" not found.
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted June 07, 2013 12:13 PM |
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Hi.
Set "Debug=1" in heroes3.ini before playing and upload WOGCRASHLOG.txt and eralog.txt on crash. For multiplayer it's recommended to have version 2.43+ and SavedGameExtraBlockSize=4000000 in heroes3.ini. You can also try switching off option "Quick savings" in WoG Options.
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