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Ereinion156
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posted September 12, 2016 07:07 PM |
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Just got Grommash Hellscream from pack. Actually the first Legendary I got from packs at all. Is he any good?
Speaking of packs, I've got a quest which would give me one, but it's telling me to watch somebody win in spectator mode. Well, my friends more or less stopped playing Hearthstone at all. So, could maybe one of you help?
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 12, 2016 08:41 PM |
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Ereinion156 said:
Just got Grommash Hellscream from pack. Actually the first Legendary I got from packs at all. Is he any good?
Speaking of packs, I've got a quest which would give me one, but it's telling me to watch somebody win in spectator mode. Well, my friends more or less stopped playing Hearthstone at all. So, could maybe one of you help?
Grommash is very useful! A great legendary 
Out Battlnet IDs are on the first page of this thread.  Just add us. Mine is #2428
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 12, 2016 08:55 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 23:25, 14 Sep 2016.
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Ereinion156 said:
Just got Grommash Hellscream from pack. Actually the first Legendary I got from packs at all. Is he any good?
Will telling you that I crafted him is enough for an answer? Yes he's good, and he fits into any Warrior deck cause he synergizes with so many Warrior cards. He's probably the best finisher in the game plus even if he won't give you a win immidiately he's still strong enough to make your opponent throw every resource to get rid of him...
EDIT: An idea for a Shaman Murloc deck has been going in my head for quite some time. I of course tried several variants, but the deck never quite worked and probably won't work in the near future. That's a known fact as Shaman lacks some good Murloc-oriented cards  .
So I have this crazy idea for a Wild mode controlish Murloc/Elemental Lords spell heavy deck. Yeah by Elemental Lords I mean crafting Neptulon who I lack, which is probably a complete waste of dust, but I want him both for my collection and to see how the 'ultimate' Murloc card actually fares. Deck is for fun and not competetivness, but as always I don't want it to suck completely cause that's frustrating.
So instead of going with aggro way, I rather want to go for the 'buff Murlocs as much as possible' way to either overwhelm my opponents with numbers and/or finish them with Rag or Al'Akir. I want to include as many spells as possible to help my Murlocs survive.
Now what I'm asking you guys is if you have some ideas/practices for this type of deck? I'm going the hard way for now, trying to discard the OP Shaman cards like T-Golems or Things.
PS: Crafting Neptulon will take me some time so I still am open for suggestions ;P.
PS 2: My friend got a Golden Dragonlord from a a 'friend gold' quest pack which we completed. Talk about returning favors for my Rag
EDIT 2: Ha Ha ha! Got a second Captain Greenskin in a Brawl pack. Oh no, I won't dust YOU this time cap'n (for those who don't know, it's the only Legendary ever that I somewhat regretted dusting)!
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 15, 2016 11:21 AM |
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- The shaman thing:
I agree with your discoveries Murloc Shaman is still not viable. But believe me I would love to use my lovely Mgorl portrait with a strong murloc deck.
-A golden dragonlord, sounds really great. I would love that. And the captain greenskin is amazing. A truely undervalued legendary.
I have some thoughts about Hearthstone at this point after the recent adventure. A small disclaimer before I go on my rant: I might be a little bored with Hearthstone.
I feel like the game has come to a halt after this adventure. It is like Karazhan has not have a big impact on the game, it feels really plain and stale ..
I just feel like all other adventures had a greater impact on the game, but this adventure just didn't do it for me..
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 15, 2016 06:42 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 23:30, 15 Sep 2016.
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emilsn91 said:
And the captain greenskin is amazing. A truely undervalued legendary.
How so? Care to elaborate? I know he works in Pirate decks (must try it at some point), but amazing?
emilsn91 said:
I feel like the game has come to a halt after this adventure. It is like Karazhan has not have a big impact on the game, it feels really plain and stale ..
I know where you're coming from. They did add some cool cards, and I enjoyed the adventure, but since WotOG they actually didn't introduce anything entirely new. Sure, there are some intresting card abilities, but most are either variants of something that was introduced before or simply more of the same. But that was actually a feeling that I've had even before Karazahn was introduced...
They really need to present us something new: a mechanic, tribe or even something that will completely shake the meta-game, like new Hero class or a completely new card type...
EDIT: Bah, crafted Neptulon. Got a second Xaril today (who I dusted of course), so I've earned enough dough for him. Created the Murloc Elemental Lords deck I've been talking about afterwards. Here's my decklist.
PS: New patch today. Tyrande as a Priest Hero portrait? Hmm... never would have guessed.
EDIT 2: I know it's too early to complement my Murloc deck but after a few runs I think I managed to create quite a solid and original piece. I've already beaten Control Warrior, C'Thun Warrior and Cancer Hunter with it (some really hard match-ups for Murloc decks I think). Was a bit lucky with topdecks, but who would've known...
I think it's this is quite an interesting approach to a Murloc deck. Instead of relying on traditional 'rush with Murlocs' tactic my deck relies heavy on the Brann + Coldlight Seer combo to make the Murlocs survive longer (even without Brann Seer does the trick). I use spells for controlling the board to some extent, but using spells as finishers is also an option. This hybrid-ness is it's strenght: it's surpisingly versatile (usually a board clear was enough to end a Murloc deck, but this time I have other aces up my sleeve). Neptulon is better then expected, he's a threat and gives a lot of fuel late game. I tend to neutralize his Overload drawback with either Sentinel or Lava Shock. The deck struggles a bit with early game because I want to keep my Murlocs till later turns for optimal effect so I usually end up without a solid board presence until mid-game. Maybe I should add either Totem Golems or Tuskarrs?
Of course this deck wouldn't had a chance to work outside of Wild, but the mode is also part of the game. If you guys have some sugegstions for tweaks I'm open to ideas
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 16, 2016 09:30 AM |
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I might have over exaggerated with Captain greenskin. He just works really well in pirate warrior or pirate decks. So I would keep him because he can used now and then.
I agree. We need a new mechanic or a new tribe.. I really want a new hero as well. But I can see how much work it would take and balance..
But they need to do something new and exciting.
Your deck looks interesting. I wish I could try it out, but I lack a few cards.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 17, 2016 12:08 PM |
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emilsn91 said:
I might have over exaggerated with Captain greenskin. He just works really well in pirate warrior or pirate decks. So I would keep him because he can used now and then.
Of course I'll keep him. He literally came back from my dust graveyard I'm gonna try a Pirate Warrior deck at some point.
emilsn91 said:
Your deck looks interesting. I wish I could try it out, but I lack a few cards.
It might be per chance, but I have quite a high win rate with it (around 70% for now). At least it's something totally different from other Shaman Murloc decks that I played...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 18, 2016 09:07 PM |
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tried out Etheral peddler rogue.. 0 % winrate..
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 18, 2016 10:00 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:02, 18 Sep 2016.
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emilsn91 said:
tried out Etheral peddler rogue.. 0 % winrate..
Hmm, that's strange. I won't exactly call it a top tier deck, but I have a decent winrate with it. Maybe it's the RNG?
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In other news, I got a Classic Pack from a quest and in it: my first ever Golden Legendary! Ysera! (Yeah I know, my luck seems to run in clusters So much Legendaries recently). Maybe I should've kept her, but she didn't actually have such a good animation... so I changed her into dust!
Instead, as my 'free' Legendary, I crafted Aviana. Before you actually say wtf!? I will inform you that I always had a soft spot for her since the moment of her reveal. She has a really cool effect but the nature of Hearthstone just doesn't work for her. On paper at least.
The only place for her is in Ramp Druid so I imidiately created such a deck, even though I lack Y'Shaarj who seems to be in the spotlight recently. Figured that with Barnes she actually makes a lot more sense. She's still viable for Standard so I made a deck for this mode. Played around six matches so far... 100% winrate, what the actual  !? I thought there's no place for this type of decks in todays meta?
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 18, 2016 10:24 PM |
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HOW DARE YOU DUST A GOLDEN LEGENDARY?! It's madness!
And then craft Aviana?! Oh well if you have 100 % winrate that is pretty awesome
Do you plan on buying the 10 classic packs that guarantees a legendary?
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 19, 2016 06:39 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 18:40, 19 Sep 2016.
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emilsn91 said:
HOW DARE YOU DUST A GOLDEN LEGENDARY?! It's madness!
I was a bit hesitant about this, but as a f2p player I figure it's better to have one more Legendary instead of a shiny (useless) copy of the one I already have...
emilsn91 said:
And then craft Aviana?! Oh well if you have 100 % winrate that is pretty awesome
Well this will drop of course, but I was surprised how well this deck actually fares and how usable she can be. Besides, at this point I can allow myself to craft lower tier Legendaries.
emilsn91 said:
Do you plan on buying the 10 classic packs that guarantees a legendary?
Probably not. I already have 8 of 9 Classic Legendaries so... Though it is a great deal methinks.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 20, 2016 10:01 AM |
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I went ahead and bought the 10 pack one. I got Prophet Velen, which I needed and then in one f the 10 packs I got these two guys.
Golden!
Golden Ragnaros and a second captain greenskin (funny how he pops up in our packs, )
But in total of the 10 packs + 1 legendary I got 6 new cards - though I now have two Ragnaros'
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 20, 2016 06:24 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 18:25, 20 Sep 2016.
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Woah, that's a nice pack! Two Legendaries, and one golden.
Plus Velen, the only class guy I'm missing.
I would consider keeping Golden Ragnaros, he looks really good as a Golden Legendary plus you can put him into any deck (Ysera has less uses nowadays).
I've heard that those 10 packs have some sweet droprates, but I already have so many Classic cards that I doubt I would hit big. A lot of dust probably and that's it I think, so I'll pass...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 21, 2016 09:31 AM |
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I already have a regular Rag. so I will probably be dusting him
It was a nice pack, and there was a very high droprate. I got a lot of epics - sadly as you also state, I have a lot of the classic cards, there were a lot of dust and not a lot of usable epics or rares in the packs.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 21, 2016 06:17 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 19:53, 21 Sep 2016.
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Golden Legendaries are nice but if you already have a normal version of them the sheer fact of getting an entirely new legendary of your choosing 'for free' (or a few epics for instance) makes keeping them pointless. The option to craft them is only for guys who have a full collection and don't have anything to spend dust on.
I try not to rant anymore, but yesterday I had a really salty day in Heartshtone. One of those days that afterwards you wanna quit this game. There was one game in which I made an obvious mistake (facing a Priest and knowing about his boardclears, instead of using Soul of Forest first I buffed my tokens), but aside from that my opponents seemed to always have the right answer for my plays (even unconventional ones). There are some bad chains, but yesterday I was like 20-2 in losses. That's something that happens rarely for me! And I have this bad habit of wanting to 'makes things right' in the next match, so the 'wheel' kept on turning... I fianlly won another game and stopped playing.
On the bright side one guy gave me an after-match friend request and for the first time ever I decided to accept it. He played a really unique but nicely crafted Shadow form-Reno hybrid Priest. I thought he wanted to simply brag about his 'skill' after an intense game (he played really well, but also had a lot of luck), though he actually said that was the most epic game he ever had and thanked me for playing an unconventional control deck (I played my Dragon Paladin). We agreed we 'dislike' aggro. On the downside he likes Freeze Mage which I simply hate .
EDIT: I see that the bullsh*t continues today. Please look through these cases and tell me how can a guy not get irritated?
1. I play Ramp Druid, he plays Priest. I completely control the board, each turn I pulvirize all his minions cause I picked Ogre Magi from Idol so he can't remove it and I have spelldmg. Late game I have lethal with Rag, but he plays double Cleric. I kill one off and have 50/50 chance for winning. Rag of course hits the Cleric. From this point onward the usual Priest shenenigans. The rest of the game his hanging on knifes edge, I only need Yseras 5 dmg spell (get Dragons) or a simple Swipe (get Wild Growths followed by some other s*it). He steadily gains control of the board with Circles. I still have a slight chance of winning, but course he finishes me with double Mind Blast...
2. I play Beast Druid and he also plays a standard one. Late game, I struggle to control the board but finally manage to get the upper hand with a steady healthpool, letahl board and he has no cards. He won't finish me with a spell cause he used all his Swipes, a buffed Panther (he has a stealthed one on board) etc. He of course topdecks Druid of the Claw for exact lethal...
3. I play rattle Rouge he plays OTK Warrior. OTK turn, I have a wall of Belchers so he can't get past my defenses. He kills me off with a double Mortal Strike for 12 dmg...
All of those players of course BM all over the place with 'My Thanks!' and 'That was an Error'-s. And those are only three cases of all the humilitations I recieved these past two days...
What did I do to deserve it... I might say, oh this happens. Problem lies when these kind of things happen 20x in a row...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 22, 2016 10:56 AM |
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I will keep Golden Rag. I love golden cards and I dust regular ones instead. I like shiny things
Rant all you want. Those things happen, I have that with my evo-shaman. I cannot win with that ....
I have 3000 dust atm, not counting dusting the Ragnaros.. what to do... what to do..
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 22, 2016 11:18 PM |
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emilsn91 said:
I have 3000 dust atm, not counting dusting the Ragnaros.. what to do... what to do..
I think that I'll start to save dust for the next expansion, which is likely to be announced at Blizzcon. There are still some cards that I would like to have, but as long I'll be getting their respective packs there's a chance I'll get them eventualy. There are some I want avaible only through crafting, but I can take my time.
PS: Hearthstones RNG has mended my saltiness a bit: I got Cyclopian Horror in a pack yesterday and Faceless Shambler today (had an 80 gold quest). Those are not popular cards, but both are Epics which I even considered at some point. They position themeselves somewhere between useful and ok-ish but they'll find a place in my Taunt Warrior and maybe some other controlish decks.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted September 23, 2016 08:22 AM |
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That is actually the reason why I haven't crafted any new ones lately. I already have many of the used legendaries in the current meta..
I really want Lord of light, but mostly because of healadin, but I have a really solid paladeck atm, which is more my playstyle anyway.
I really thought that Cycl. would have been a valuable card, but I guess its anti-zoo powers were too bad..
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 23, 2016 10:01 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 23:20, 23 Sep 2016.
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I think that what Blizzard did wrong is that it made the scales go so much in the favor of zoo (or aggro) that it outclasses control by a mile. I won't tell what is exactly the reason but I can give you an example. I played a game against Zoolock in which I armored up/healed my Druid at least two times my initial healthpool. I also cleared his board at least three times. He still won becuase of Zoolocks ability to instantly rebuild the board. Imo the problem lies in this and in all those cheap buffs that Zoolock can apply: PO, Alpha Wolf and Abusive to name the few. Even if that's not enough, he can still finish you with Doomguard or Leeroy.
The problem is not in the archetypes themsleves (cause they were in the game since the begining), but becauase over the course of months they acquired so many cards that made them stronger. They're simply not strong because they have OP cards, but because the sum of all their parts raised in strenght.
This is also the reason why cards like Cyclopian Horror do not work anymore: now a Taunt minion would probably need to be like 2/10 for 3 mana to keep up with all this bull...
I don't mean to say that those decks are unbeatable or something, but that their winrate is probably something like 2:1 against control.
EDIT: Wtf is wrong with this game? Yet another day I'm loosing game after game because my opponents have some incredible luck. No, it's not skill, not my misplays (mostly) and definately not that I'm inferior in some way (I play optimally, on curve and have some really strong plays on my side etc). Game after game I'm loosing because RNG gods decided to play with me (and we're talking about Yogg Saron giving Ice Block kinda RNG). Three straight days in a row. And it's not that I'm playing some half-witted decks, I even try with good decks that brought me a lot of wins so far. This is simply frustrating, one more day like this and I'm seriously thinking of giving up on this game, the only thing keeping me is that I invested so much time in getting my collection...
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Ereinion156
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 27, 2016 12:27 PM |
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I want to restructure my hunter and druid deck completely. Any ideas in what direction I could go without crafting tons and tons of new cards?
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