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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Popular Thread is 244 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 50 100 150 200 ... 240 241 242 243 244 · «PREV / NEXT»
fred79
fred79


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posted February 23, 2017 07:58 AM

there's also ANOTHER THREAD for discussions that have nothing to do with the hota team's project/your personal wishlists and observations on homm3...

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phoenix4ever
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posted February 23, 2017 08:31 AM

Fred did you become some kinda selfproclaimed guard dog of the HotA thread?

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fred79
fred79


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posted February 23, 2017 09:16 AM

no. it's just rude, man. a 200+ pages kinda rude. that's REALLY rude.

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Galaad
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posted February 23, 2017 09:55 AM

fred79 said:
i'm actually starting to think that the reason why the delay for the latest release has taken this long, is because they're protesting all the spam flooding their thread.


Haven't you heard, Russian version already is at v2.0 and has a new town!!!
The installer is encrypted.
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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


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posted February 23, 2017 12:35 PM
Edited by P4R4D0X0N at 12:52, 23 Feb 2017.

Quote:
What about the tactical Teleport, the useful Water Walk on certain maps and the mass spells Cure/Dispel, Weakness, Forgetfulness?



Haste is more useful than teleport in most case, very few units would profit from it...

Quote:
Sacrifice isn't really a joke compared to Resurrection. I've used it to great effect.


The formula should be a little more flexible in case of sacrificed hitpoints if it was for me, atm it's just useful to sacrifice trash lvl1 units like imps (okay they are useless anyway) but thats quite a restriction imho. Though it would be a step in the right direction to double the amount of HP gain. Imho it isn't worth a lvl6 spell. You may compare it with "Summon x Elementals" how many HP are generated with these spells in comparison to Sacrifice, you'll see compared to these that it's indeed kinda useless to use it.

fred79 said:
there's also ANOTHER THREAD for discussions that have nothing to do with the hota team's project/your personal wishlists and observations on homm3...


You think your nagging and reminding is on topic? Calm down... I tried it myself in this thread http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=42645&pagenumber=1 while nobody gave a snow about it (Interstingly another white knight on this thread named:  "Galaad" was involved in these 6/8 pages offtopic junk)

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fred79
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posted February 23, 2017 12:52 PM

P4R4D0X0N said:
fred79 said:
there's also ANOTHER THREAD for discussions that have nothing to do with the hota team's project/your personal wishlists and observations on homm3...


You think your nagging is on topic? Calm down...


so, you not only continue spamming once an issue is brought up more than once(and reiterated a couple times by an actual member of the hota team), but you attempt provocation on who would call you out on your spamming, as well?

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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


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posted February 23, 2017 02:22 PM
Edited by P4R4D0X0N at 14:23, 23 Feb 2017.

fred79 said:
P4R4D0X0N said:
fred79 said:
there's also ANOTHER THREAD for discussions that have nothing to do with the hota team's project/your personal wishlists and observations on homm3...


You think your nagging is on topic? Calm down...


so, you not only continue spamming once an issue is brought up more than once(and reiterated a couple times by an actual member of the hota team), but you attempt provocation on who would call you out on your spamming, as well?


I just answer to stuff thats posted here. And if you read carefully (witch hut some pages ago) I said it's useless to discuss further, 'coz everything was said about this stuff anyway. Spamming is something different, while your off-topic remindings are indeed off-topic imho. Everything was said by Nik and Mod aswell... deal with it or feel free to "provocate" further about a cleared issue...

nik312 said:
Let me restate the situation on wishes and suggestions in the main thread:

1) I personally skip balance/gameplay wishes w/o reading. But other members of the crew read even those.

2) 99% of suggestions are either totally out of style or are being/were already discussed in the team.

3) All that being said - it's always good, when the topic stays on top, but still long personal wishlists are more welcome in that separate thread.


If the suggestion is not balance-related it is a little more likely to be useful, but that is no law - just an observation.



Corribus said:
The thread topic is Horn of the Abyss. If the project managers want a thread dedicated only to project updates and want wishes and related topics relegated to a separate thread, the thread creators should start threads with more specific titles. As it stands now, discussion of wishes are on topic and allowed, to the extent that they are not breaking other forum rules in any case.



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verynice
verynice

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posted February 23, 2017 02:27 PM

fred79 said:
so, you not only continue spamming once an issue is brought up more than once(and reiterated a couple times by an actual member of the hota team), but you attempt provocation on who would call you out on your spamming, as well?

Please leave the moderating to the moderators. You have no right to tell others what they can and can't post.
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Wind_Falcon
Wind_Falcon


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posted February 23, 2017 02:48 PM
Edited by Wind_Falcon at 14:52, 23 Feb 2017.

^ Absolutely.

nik didn't say for people to stop posting suggestions, just that he doesn't read them (but other HotA members, according to him, do).

Also, 3 different moderators (at least) saw the complaints and haven't done anything, meaning everything going on is on topic and approved by them and OK with the rules, Corribus even spoke the word of God right here in the thread.

I think its some other people that might need a thread (aka safe space) of their own

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fred79
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posted February 23, 2017 02:59 PM
Edited by fred79 at 15:05, 23 Feb 2017.

verynice said:
Please leave the moderating to the moderators. You have no right to tell others what they can and can't post.


it's not about rights. it's about respect. this is a modding forum, and this thread was specifically made for an extensive project. and when productive modders(or anyone who puts in work here for free, to share with others) aren't respected, something needs to be said.

respect is what keeps this community from devolving into just another anonymous internet forum where people spew whatever they want at whoever they want. it is because the admin here wanted a platform for everyone, that this respect must be upheld.

everywhere else in hc, when people spam a serious thread, they are warned, then their posts are deleted, or the thread is locked and they are penalyzed.

for NEARLY 200 pages(if not more), the hota thread has been spammed. a seperate thread was created for wishlists. a seperate thread was created for programming bugs. a seperate thread was created for graphical errors.

and STILL, people spam the MAIN thread. WHY it has been allowed for so long, is because either nobody really fought against it, or it was allowed for FAR too long.

a member of the hota team has spoken out against it more than once, and STILL, it continues.

the spamming needs to STOP. it doesn't matter WHO stops it, or voices out against it. what matters, is that it DOESN'T CONTINUE.

if we don't respect the modders of a modding forum(because that's what this specific subforum really is), then how much LONGER will it be a modding forum? instead of just a polite place to DISCUSS what should be modded?


i'm going to add, that if MY thread was spammed like this, after i asked people to stop, and the mods did nothing about it, i WOULDN'T BE SHARING WHAT I MADE. i'd find somewhere else to share my stuff(especially after, say, the 1st 50 pages of this nonsense). and guess what? the hota team already HAS somewhere else to share. so if you guys really ARE fans of their work, you will RESPECT them enough for them to share it. simple, right?

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Wind_Falcon
Wind_Falcon


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posted February 23, 2017 03:19 PM
Edited by Wind_Falcon at 15:50, 23 Feb 2017.

Its a modding forum, sure, but for the benefit of the Heroes Community members at large, and not solely for any singular modder or modding group.

I think you are doing something very ugly, essentially accusing HotA team of telling people to stop posting X type of comments (and doing so yourself). First, they haven't done this (no, the posts you quoted are not what you are presenting/thinking them to be), and second, if they did, it would be extremely rude (way more so than posting and discussing suggestions), as this is not their own forum and they can't demand of anyone to post or not post in a certain way (and again, they haven't, but this is what you are insinuating they have). Being a HotA thread is irrelevant, this thread would exist on this forum even if HotA team members didn't start it and pop in occasionally, just like there are dozens of threads about other games without any developers in sight, in which people discuss all sorts of things, including suggestions and wishes, and is not considered disrespectful to anyone anywhere (rightfully so).

To put it simply, no one is showing any disrespect to the HotA team members (whats with people here imagining ungratefulness and disrespect left and right???). This statement by itself is a blatant lie, considering the vast amounts of praise that people have heaped on them in this very thread (the post count is a badge of honour which I'm sure many other fan creators would want their creations to achieve). And the thread exists for the benefit of the members, not modders (otherwise they would keep their work to themselves). If discussing suggestions and possibilities is what the community here finds most valuable, it should be left to do so. And yes, in this very thread, as I already spoke how fragmenting discussions to different threads is bad forum management and moderation.

Everything is on topic and not breaking rules (moderator confirmed), except of course for the posts of the forum's self appointed (and wanted by no one) morality knights and defenders of the downtrodden modder.

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pekute99
pekute99


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posted February 23, 2017 03:47 PM

Galaad said:
fred79 said:
i'm actually starting to think that the reason why the delay for the latest release has taken this long, is because they're protesting all the spam flooding their thread.


Haven't you heard, Russian version already is at v2.0 and has a new town!!!
The installer is encrypted.

Wha ??? Where ??

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verriker
verriker


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posted February 23, 2017 04:18 PM

pekute99 said:
Galaad said:
fred79 said:
i'm actually starting to think that the reason why the delay for the latest release has taken this long, is because they're protesting all the spam flooding their thread.


Haven't you heard, Russian version already is at v2.0 and has a new town!!!
The installer is encrypted.

Wha ??? Where ??


lol
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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted February 23, 2017 04:36 PM
Edited by gatecrasher at 16:48, 23 Feb 2017.

On the last page there is a user stating they couldn't be bothered to skim through all of the 239 pages to find a solution for their problem - understandably so.

Interesting tidbits are covered in white noise.

Now dear idea/balancing troopers, if you were half as passionate about HotA and HoMM as you purport to be you would bother to study the entire thread.

What you'd find is that not only you are constantly rehashing discussions that already had came to nothing in the past but every one of you is constantly repeating themself.

You'd understand the HotA line of approach.


(Interestingly enough - the ideas brought up in the dedicated proposals/wishlists threads are often thoughtful as opposed to the flooding happening here.)

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted February 23, 2017 04:44 PM

verynice said:

Please leave the moderating to the moderators. You have no right to tell others what they can and can't post.


C'mon, the forum is made up of its all participants. It's simply a question of tact whether you go on or not when somebody expresses being annoyed by your behaviour.

The guys know that there are seperate threads but provokingly refuse to post there.

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Evaline
Evaline


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posted February 23, 2017 09:03 PM

Please, close this topic and remove 4500+ useless posts from it! We need to stop all this mess...

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Revolut1oN
Revolut1oN


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posted February 23, 2017 11:36 PM

Exactly damn, everytime i see a new post in this thread i come in to check if theres a new update, but every single time its just another mindless suggestion like BUFF DRAGON FLIES 10%, and, tbh, nobody gives a snow about these stupid ideas proposed by noobs.

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Nephretes
Nephretes


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posted February 24, 2017 12:53 AM
Edited by Nephretes at 00:59, 24 Feb 2017.

Revolut1oN said:
Exactly damn, everytime i see a new post in this thread i come in to check if theres a new update, but every single time its just another mindless suggestion like BUFF DRAGON FLIES 10%, and, tbh, nobody gives a snow about these stupid ideas proposed by noobs.


+1.
I am not really interested in seeing this either, and also whining about new version getting delayed. It is a free mod of high quality and it obviously takes a lot of time to finish, so just let them work. As for "balance and suggestions" there is a special topic for such useless discussion. Next time I visit the topic I would rather see the news connected to the release, not mindless discussion which is taking place now.

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P4R4D0X0N
P4R4D0X0N


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posted February 24, 2017 12:59 AM
Edited by P4R4D0X0N at 01:00, 24 Feb 2017.

I suggest a seperate thread for patchnotes only, locked permanentely editable by any HotA member. Even better -> finally seperate sections for HoMM3 splitted up to HotA, VCMI, WoG, ERA2... The rest are first world problems to be honest

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MCB
MCB

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posted February 24, 2017 04:31 AM

Wich is the best town in hota? If there are any?

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