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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 548 pages long: 1 ... 30 31 32 33 34 ... 70 140 210 280 350 420 490 548 · «PREV / NEXT»
Storm-Giant
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posted January 17, 2014 08:58 PM

But does Fred wants other people to use his work? And HotA team wants to use Fred work and not theirs? I wonder
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fred79
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posted January 17, 2014 09:01 PM

elaf said:
forge must be a kind of dragon utopia, not a faction


no, the Dragon Utopia was made for the Forge terrain. i'm going to be making "Forged"(steampunk) versions of as many generic-terrain buildings as i can, as they don't fit visually on Forge terrain.

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krs
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posted January 17, 2014 09:04 PM

Fred still lives .

I think you have by far the best vision of Forge. Make a deal with HotA team and delight us all with a Forge faction.

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fred79
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posted January 17, 2014 09:08 PM

Storm-Giant said:
But does Fred wants other people to use his work? And HotA team wants to use Fred work and not theirs? I wonder


i don't have a problem with people using my work, as long as they don't claim that they made it. hell, they can change what i've made visually, and then claim it is their work. but they have to change it somewhat, so that it doesn't look like a direct copy of mine. either by improvement, or adding to it, or fixing any visual errors(although they'd be hard-pressed to find mistakes in my work, as i am uppity as all hell about visual errors).

i mean, a lot of my work has been from me modifying or improving upon other's work. that is how i could call their base work my own.

kinda like the mere recolors of creatures in the creature bank(that WoG and everyone else did since then), modifying is a way to become the author of something.

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hippox89
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posted January 17, 2014 09:17 PM
Edited by hippox89 at 21:20, 17 Jan 2014.

kipshasz said:
@Lord_Immortal: I think this is supposed to be a dwarven creature bank.


The gates leads to Moria ! That was my first association.

I imagined that they could also be used as tunnels that would lead to another entrance close by; like a portal. Many of fred79's objects inspire imagination, I think.

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nummi
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posted January 17, 2014 09:53 PM
Edited by nummi at 21:55, 17 Jan 2014.

hippox89 said:
kipshasz said:
@Lord_Immortal: I think this is supposed to be a dwarven creature bank.


The gates leads to Moria ! That was my first association.

I imagined that they could also be used as tunnels that would lead to another entrance close by; like a portal. Many of fred79's objects inspire imagination, I think.

Or one more underground level. In idea the ground level, then the dwarven underground level, and then the underground below that. And if that far why not an infernal level below that, where magma flows around and demons fornicate (alone).

When I see changes mentioned my mind can't help but wander toward possibilities about the game. And then from there onward to thinking about a "true" strategy game when realizing the possibilities I've come up with could as well be turned into a whole new game, as the changes would be so massive.

HOMM is kind of old, and all the new games (not just HOMM related games) that have come out since those times haven't not just lived up to that level of gameplay quality but they've actually been far worse. And to think about the fact that conjuring up very good, even extremely good, ideas is so very easy, accompanied by another fact that there's nothing that actually lives up to those ideas, is very sad. No wander why, all revolves around money, big companies care about that only (some very few exceptions), meaning quantity goes first, and going for quality slows down the trickle rate so there nothing but going for quantity. Off topic, but shiet how this capitalism idiocy and its effects piss me off.
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antistar
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posted January 17, 2014 09:55 PM

Macron1 said:
JadeFalcon said:


Your, "opinion" is you constantly complaining and treating HotA like it's literally the worst thing since cancer. Seriously, you never have anything nice to say about this project. I know you have some sort of strange vendetta against the crew, but can't you keep it to yourself instead of clogging up the forums with it? (First post, been lurking the forums for at least over a year now.) (Edit: Keep up the good work HotA crew, by far my favourite mod so far, and I'm really impressed with the amount of detail put into it.)

I don't know where you get all this ideas.
I never said HOTA is cancer or something bad. You can search my posts and see, that I only criticized some minor things (and always do).
I don't like blue birds (upgrade looks same as degrade, previous birds were more good). I don't like red eye ogre portrait. I don't like changes in classic factions and skill they do. I don't like that Phoenix Horde don't look like Phoenix's.That' all.
But as you can see I wrote that I have no complaints about graphics quality.
Don't make me some infernal HOTA hater denying anything they do.


You make yourself a HotA hater. You said it yourself : you don't like it - then DON'T play it. I'm fed up with your useless posts and complains. MAKE [CREATE] your own MOD if you don't like this MOD. Express your oppinion but don't be a broken mill, I can't really stand all this negativity.

Everyone welcomed HotA properly as the expansion that NWC never did and I honestly believe that the entire HotA crew deserves more than childish moans. If you don't have anything useful/meaningful to say I'm done with you. I won't encourage trollism any more.

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Macron1
Macron1


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posted January 17, 2014 09:57 PM

antistar said:
you don't like it - then DON'T play it. I'm fed up with your useless posts and complains. MAKE [CREATE] your own MOD if you don't like this MOD. Express your oppinion but don't be a broken mill, I can't really stand all this negativity.



I don't playing HOTA. Are you satisfied?
And I made my mods. What else should I do, my friend?

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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted January 17, 2014 10:02 PM

antistar said:
You said it yourself : you don't like it - then DON'T play it. I'm fed up with your useless posts and complains. MAKE [CREATE] your own MOD if you don't like this MOD.

Even though I don't like the way Macron is talking about HotA, you're not really behaving any better. Trying to silence someone in such way isn't the way to discuss with people who have different opinions.
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nummi
nummi

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posted January 17, 2014 10:07 PM

Macron1 said:
antistar said:
you don't like it - then DON'T play it. I'm fed up with your useless posts and complains. MAKE [CREATE] your own MOD if you don't like this MOD. Express your oppinion but don't be a broken mill, I can't really stand all this negativity.



I don't playing HOTA. Are you satisfied?
And I made my mods. What else should I do, my friend?


Wait... you don't play HOTA and you give nothing positive in feedback (as good as you don't care for it not one tiniest bit). Then why are you commenting here in the first place?
If I don't care for something then I have no reason to have anything to do with that something.
Are you jealous that someone made a better mod then you (I don't know what your mods are like but...)? Would explain everything perfectly.
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fred79
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posted January 17, 2014 10:09 PM

hippox89 said:

I imagined that they could also be used as tunnels that would lead to another entrance close by; like a portal. Many of fred79's objects inspire imagination, I think.


i've used many objects as underground "portals" to another area, like cave systems that don't use the underground, thus freeing up more space for other things.

i'm glad my objects inspire you. now, apply your inspiration. i'd like to see many more people producing things for the game, be it ideas, scripts, objects, themes, heroes, etc. that way, the individual can pick and choose from an even wider miriad of things to improve their games.

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heroes_fanboy
heroes_fanboy


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posted January 17, 2014 10:22 PM

hippox89 said:
Bug report

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Some creature's idle animations also seem very fast. Troglodytes are one of them. Some, like the Swordsman's idle animation, do seem more natural compared to others. I do like the idle animations not all being the played at the same speed, though. That's natural in itself.

Bug report


I mentioned earlier that the speed of the Efreeti's idle animation seems too fast. I'm not sure all these differences in the tempo are natural.

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kipshasz
kipshasz


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posted January 17, 2014 10:55 PM

nummi said:
I don't know what your mods are like but.


Precisely. No one here knows what he created. Well, except for Warmonger.
Also, guys, a little advice:


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MagniBronzeb...
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posted January 17, 2014 10:55 PM

krs said:





Just saying...


haha, red alert 2 allied barracks.

I have a wish, if HotA team are reskinning unit sprites too, I would like to see also a different weapon from a gremlin, that ball looks too heavy for a little creature like gremlin to hurl, replacing with the one heroes 5 gremlins use.

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Macron1
Macron1


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posted January 17, 2014 11:01 PM

nummi said:

Wait... you don't play HOTA and you give nothing positive in feedback (as good as you don't care for it not one tiniest bit). Then why are you commenting here in the first place?
If I don't care for something then I have no reason to have anything to do with that something.
Are you jealous that someone made a better mod then you (I don't know what your mods are like but...)? Would explain everything perfectly.

Where I gave nothing positive in feedback?
Few posts earlier I said I have no complaints about graphics parts except few thing. If this is not positive then I don't know what positive is.
You know, there is nothing ideal in this world, because it's made of chaos. So if someone complains about details, it doesn't mean he dislikes it whole.
For example, people often criticize new laws by their goverment, but this doesn't mean they hate it.
I don't go jealous  on HOTA, because one person could not complete with big team (to make everything in team means many specialities of it's members). I healthy estimate my powers and don't claim I can make something better than HOTA. This doesn't mean I must not criticize details I don't like or I cannot change things I think can be made different.

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fred79
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posted January 17, 2014 11:07 PM

MagniBronzebeard said:


haha, red alert 2 allied barracks.




no, this is the red alert 2 allied barracks:



what you saw was one of my older attempts at a Forge-style building.

the ones i will be coming out with, will much more resemble actual HoMM3 buildings(like the Forge Utopia), as i will be using parts of them to make new Forge buildings. just like how some Forge creatures are cyborg versions of HoMM3 creatures.

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Salamandre
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posted January 17, 2014 11:34 PM

Macron1-as far as I remember- Corribus never gives two warnings, so next will be ban or silence, do you really seek for?

It does not matter who is right or who is wrong, but only if he receives multiple complaints about you, which means several people feel your interferences disturbing or off topic.

Also there is nothing to critic here. A few people work hard during their little free time, and without any material reward or seek for glory they allow others to have a new or different game experience. You like, you say thanks. You don't like, pass your way.

Nobody is accountable when is free; this is not capitalist business where the customer legally has the right to get what he asked for.
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Hobbit
Hobbit


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posted January 17, 2014 11:50 PM

I have to disagree with you, Salamandre, and I personally believe HotA Crew actually seeks for critiques when they're at least a bit constructive. When people would only say "Thank you", the whole work wouldn't improve much - after all what's better than opinion of the audience if you want to make your work as good as it's possible?

You can say that Macron is wrong or whatever, but when he's saying that something doesn't look nice or that he doesn't like this or that, I'm pretty sure members of the team who'll see this will think about it at least for several seconds, and that's where progress comes from. After all, if there were none who criticize WoG, there would be no HotA at all. You should actually be thankful for people sharing their opinions.
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fred79
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posted January 18, 2014 12:01 AM
Edited by fred79 at 07:11, 18 Jan 2014.

the rust doesn't look like wood anymore. i got rid of patches of reddish-brown, so that the rust didn't cover everything. i also lightened the def up a bit, as it was too dark before. i fixed the columns, as well. it's not complete yet, as i still have the stuff around the base to do, but at least i am now done with the rest.

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gatecrasher
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posted January 18, 2014 12:45 AM
Edited by gatecrasher at 02:33, 18 Jan 2014.

Two tiny graphical glitches remaining in Conflux townscreen:

Two wrong pixels next to the Town Hall (all levels) dome


The Pyre does not blend seamlessly into the background:


The effect is slightly more prominent when using HD mod bilinear filters.

Just in case more rework is going to be carried out,
the mountain texture on the right looks somewhat odd.


The smoother texture used in the Altar of Air building preview could be better.


In addition the sand bank at the river kink looks weird / out of perspective.

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