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p4r4d0x0n
p4r4d0x0n


Famous Hero
posted April 19, 2020 10:54 PM
Edited by p4r4d0x0n at 12:20, 20 Apr 2020.

DrSlash said:
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Frederick van Beethoven? Where is his electronical organ?

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Tevye
Tevye


Hired Hero
posted April 24, 2020 12:46 PM

If there only was another prominent composer by the name of Frederick... Hmm...

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted April 24, 2020 03:14 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 15:42, 24 Apr 2020.

Guys, HotA was always playable without the HD+ mod, right? Since now I seem to be able to run it without the mod.

Edit: Well, when I tried running it from the folder, it always crashed for some reason. After I pinned the HotA process on the taskbar while the game is running and the restart it from there, I can play without HD+ mod.

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted April 24, 2020 03:38 PM

FirePaladin said:
Guys, HotA was always playable without the HD+ mod, right? Since now I seem to be able to run it without the mod.


Dude, this has always been the case. The HD mod has always been only optional.

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gavinmagnus
gavinmagnus

Tavern Dweller
posted April 24, 2020 09:29 PM
Edited by gavinmagnus at 19:43, 15 Nov 2020.

Hi guys. When I open a template created with the Template Editor, an interesting field is present: "Minimum objects", that is always empty. Do you know anything about it? I couldn't find any info in the documentation.
It is in the zone options, right after the "Objects".

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted April 28, 2020 10:20 AM

So, any news on the 1.7 development? I've mostly been out of HC due to firefox bug preventing me from using it freely so I'm not up to date.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted April 28, 2020 10:57 AM
Edited by FirePaladin at 11:02, 28 Apr 2020.

Doomforge said:
So, any news on the 1.7 development? I've mostly been out of HC due to firefox bug preventing me from using it freely so I'm not up to date.


NO. I mean, let me take a look at the russians' forums.

Edit: Lol, the guys are just chilling with Docent Picolan there and talking about korean and chinese community and a successful article on a russian blog (also about HotA streams and some other stuff). So, as I said before, they're chill.

HotA Russian Forum
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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted April 29, 2020 10:09 PM

This was released on Hota discors a while ago. I belive there might be a bigger quality image somewhere, but I couldn't find any, so here it is.

Apparently, the might hero of Factory will be called Mercenary.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted April 30, 2020 07:29 AM

Sorry but I'm gonna post this here as well:
The fact that HotA overwrites building dependencies, creature abilities and hero skills is truly annoying.
Why could'nt you just have edited the exe HotA Crew, instead of forcing this dll crap upon us?

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VampMarcie
VampMarcie


Hired Hero
posted April 30, 2020 02:50 PM
Edited by VampMarcie at 14:51, 30 Apr 2020.

Factory's Hero classes have been revealed!


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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted April 30, 2020 03:37 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 15:39, 30 Apr 2020.

Phoenix4ever said:
... The fact that HotA overwrites building dependencies, creature abilities and hero skills is truly annoying.
Why could'nt you just have edited the exe HotA Crew, instead of forcing this dll crap upon us?

For once I totally agree with you. I'm hating the nerf of Logistics and what that does to some of my favorite heroes (Dessa and Kyrre). Distances I remember to cover in a single turn with a slightly developed Log specialist now require a level many times not even achievable in that map. Just yesterday I had to level up Dessa from 16 to 38 to gain the four steps necessary to take a certain town in a single turn.
The hell, nerf Offense and Armorer as much as you like but leave my movement alone.
I do believe (didn't tested yet) that now my map "The Red Tent" is probably broken cause his secret was to use Logistics to enter and escape the underground in a single turn. If you have to fight Minos to progress, even if you are able to win, the match is dead cause your first hero versus hero fight is the hardest fight in the map...
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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted April 30, 2020 05:07 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
Sorry but I'm gonna post this here as well:
The fact that HotA overwrites building dependencies, creature abilities and hero skills is truly annoying.
Why could'nt you just have edited the exe HotA Crew, instead of forcing this dll crap upon us?


Wow, get a grip guy! Fory many pages the HotA suggestions thread is a one-man show of yours "Please do this, do that". Now when they do something you call it "crap" (yeah, for technical reasons).
Please get a life.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted April 30, 2020 05:41 PM

Yes but I don't understand why they had to do it this way, when it could be done by hex editing. This way they are forcing you to use their changes and you can't even change them back!
That is actually breaking the game, if you are being honest.

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted April 30, 2020 06:57 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Yes but I don't understand why they had to do it this way, when it could be done by hex editing. This way they are forcing you to use their changes and you can't even change them back!
That is actually breaking the game, if you are being honest.


Are you having a rough day or what?


Saying "they are forcing you to X" is beyond ludicrous. I could understand this, if this was somehow you paying about their services, but since that's not the case, you're simply being unthankful and have no respesct towards the people working in this project. You would only use their work as a tool with your own mod anyway.

If you're willing to make changes to your game, there are multiple good platforms for that case.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted April 30, 2020 07:10 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 19:20, 30 Apr 2020.

But what if you want to make a mod for a mod? They also removed the possibility of changing hero portraits by putting them in Data folder, a very nasty thing for custom maps. Now I will have to include a modified HotA.lod with my map for every new version (or at least the files and a guide to put them in the game's archives).

And it's not like changing them and then playing PvP is gonna really change something, except for visuals.
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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted April 30, 2020 07:23 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 19:27, 30 Apr 2020.

Hourglass said:
Are you having a rough day or what?


Saying "they are forcing you to X" is beyond ludicrous. I could understand this, if this was somehow you paying about their services, but since that's not the case, you're simply being unthankful and have no respesct towards the people working in this project. You would only use their work as a tool with your own mod anyway.

If you're willing to make changes to your game, there are multiple good platforms for that case.

I am very grateful for most of the things HotA have done and I would like to support them financially, but HotA have declined this themselves.

But I hate this inflexibility and things you are forced to accept. I also hate the lack of communication and not knowing what to expect next.
I had my own versions of Logistics, Estates, Intelligence and Mysticism until HotA ruined them. Who knows which skill they are gonna ruin next...
And to build a simple Sprite building requires you to build Mage Guild and Magic University, it's absurd. HotA is scared of a little 3 hp Sprite...
Why not have Harpy Hags require Artifact Merchant or Cerberi require Castle Gate while they are at it...

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted April 30, 2020 07:25 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 19:28, 30 Apr 2020.

It just made them imba in PvP, so they nerfed them... with those requirements, you won't end up using Sprites at all on smaller maps... That's balance!

And yeah, I'm grateful too for many of their changes and stuff, but as fan modders, they should expect fans to still want to customize and change the already modded game. I mean, they did sacrifice years for the mod, but it's not their game though.
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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted April 30, 2020 07:37 PM
Edited by Hourglass at 19:38, 30 Apr 2020.

FirePaladin said:
But what if you want to make a mod for a mod? They also removed the possibility of changing hero portraits by putting them in Data folder, a very nasty thing for custom maps. Now I will have to include a modified HotA.lod with my map for every new version (or at least the files and a guide to put them in the game's archives).

And it's not like changing them and then playing PvP is gonna really change something, except for visuals.


There are various ways of asking this, there's no need for any kind of BM, even if the developer answer was a big "no." Nobody is having a gun in anyones forehead, and nobody is forcing anyone. In the end, it's their mod you paid nothing, accept their rules or stay away, there's no need of publicly lynching the team.

Phoenix4ever said:

I am very grateful for most of the things HotA have done and I would like to support them financially, but HotA have declined this themselves.

...

Why not have Harpy Hags require Artifact Merchant or Cerberi require Castle Gate while they are at it...


According to that last sentence you're indeed very grateful.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted April 30, 2020 07:40 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 19:41, 30 Apr 2020.

They are forcing us with their changes, for good, for bad.
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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


Famous Hero
posted April 30, 2020 08:19 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
Hourglass said:
Are you having a rough day or what?


Saying "they are forcing you to X" is beyond ludicrous. I could understand this, if this was somehow you paying about their services, but since that's not the case, you're simply being unthankful and have no respesct towards the people working in this project. You would only use their work as a tool with your own mod anyway.

If you're willing to make changes to your game, there are multiple good platforms for that case.

I am very grateful for most of the things HotA have done and I would like to support them financially, but HotA have declined this themselves.

But I hate this inflexibility and things you are forced to accept. I also hate the lack of communication and not knowing what to expect next.
I had my own versions of Logistics, Estates, Intelligence and Mysticism until HotA ruined them. Who knows which skill they are gonna ruin next...
And to build a simple Sprite building requires you to build Mage Guild and Magic University, it's absurd. HotA is scared of a little 3 hp Sprite...
Why not have Harpy Hags require Artifact Merchant or Cerberi require Castle Gate while they are at it...



You should understand that not everybody plays the same map against the AI over and over again like you do. People play multiplayer and expect to have more or less equal chances of winning, especially given there are tournaments with for example money prizes at stake. The sprite was extremely unbalanced since you could basically clear whole map with them and abuse their high speed and no retaliation. Also calling their changes to some skills "ruining" makes you look very conceited at least. Be mindful that there are people who do not agree with your (very narrow) perspective of how the game should look; I for example could call your changes ruining game. It is their vision and their mod so take it as it is or leave it I guess.

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