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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted October 26, 2020 05:26 PM

Of course a new AI engine would be much appreciated but I don't see that on the horizon.
But maybe we'll see changes that "help" the AI, for instance a fix for the Luna exploit.

HotA already did something like that, making the AI cast Berserk...


I don't think the AI characteristics are of any relevance. You can't set them for random maps, the names do not fit and all are equally dumb.

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tzening
tzening


Adventuring Hero
posted October 27, 2020 02:36 AM

Will there be a new campaign in the next major update when the new faction comes out?

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Typhoomn
Typhoomn

Tavern Dweller
posted October 27, 2020 03:43 PM

tzening said:
Will there be a new campaign in the next major update when the new faction comes out?

Yup

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Tordah
Tordah


Adventuring Hero
posted October 29, 2020 07:45 PM
Edited by Tordah at 19:45, 29 Oct 2020.

Hi

I have not posted in a while therefore i would like to leave this message to remind the community of the following statements:

1 - i am still here

2 - i am eager to try the new hota version

3 - i love you all

that is all have a pleasant day

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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted October 30, 2020 12:45 AM

Tordah said:

2 - i am eager to try the new hota version

AMEN BROTHER! New Years can't come soon enough.

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seiran
seiran

Tavern Dweller
posted October 31, 2020 11:44 AM

pellish said:
Tordah said:

2 - i am eager to try the new hota version

AMEN BROTHER! New Years can't come soon enough.


New Years 2024 would be a realistic expectation

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Tordah
Tordah


Adventuring Hero
posted November 01, 2020 12:45 AM

pellish said:
Tordah said:

2 - i am eager to try the new hota version

AMEN BROTHER! New Years can't come soon enough.


You're right we're already in november. I can't believe how fast this year has passed. I have been here daily for the past 8 months lol

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Jaynetics
Jaynetics

Tavern Dweller
posted November 01, 2020 09:14 AM

Tordah said:
I have been here daily for the past 8 months lol


There might be a silent majority here.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted November 01, 2020 11:49 PM

HotA Crew is'nt it time you acknowledged Accurate Shot is pretty broken.
I have seen Sea Dogs kill 6 or more level 7 units with Accurate Shot, then they can get morale and do it again!
You could argue Mighty Gorgons can do the same, but they are level 5 creatures, slower, can not shoot and their ability does not work VS all creatures.

Also please put a (lower) cap on Haspids revenge ability, it's ridiculous how much damage these sea snakes can do when hurt a little.

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Eriphilus
Eriphilus

Tavern Dweller
Here and There
posted November 02, 2020 08:32 AM

Tordah said:


2 - i am eager to try the new hota version




Hi,

Is there a date announced when the new expansion will be released?

Thanks!

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted November 02, 2020 08:50 AM

Nope, New Years if we are lucky.

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Tordah
Tordah


Adventuring Hero
posted November 04, 2020 08:57 AM

Eriphilus said:
Tordah said:


2 - i am eager to try the new hota version




Hi,

Is there a date announced when the new expansion will be released?

Thanks!


historically the major updates happen around new year, but there is no official date as far as i know.

i'd rather not have them commit to any date anyways, they do that out of their own free will for us all so it's better we don't stress them with the dates, especially for this patch because they teased a lot of new content.

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nitocris
nitocris

Tavern Dweller
posted November 07, 2020 12:45 PM

Perfectionism - a risk factor for obsessive compulsive disorder, obsessive compulsive personality disorder, eating disorders, social anxiety, body dysmorphic disorder, workaholism, self harm and suicide, substance abuse, and clinical depression as well as physical problems like heart disease.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted November 09, 2020 11:57 AM

Phoenix4ever said:
HotA Crew is'nt it time you acknowledged Accurate Shot is pretty broken.
I have seen Sea Dogs kill 6 or more level 7 units with Accurate Shot, then they can get morale and do it again!
You could argue Mighty Gorgons can do the same, but they are level 5 creatures, slower, can not shoot and their ability does not work VS all creatures.


No.

They are made of paper.
Their dwelling is expensive.
Their ability stops working when you park a unit (any unit) next to them.
Which means that in a player vs player battle they will pretty much never use this ability at all.

Phoenix4ever said:
Also please put a (lower) cap on Haspids revenge ability, it's ridiculous how much damage these sea snakes can do when hurt a little.


No.

The unit is pretty much garbage without it.
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Supreme Hero
Undercover modder
posted November 09, 2020 12:19 PM

^

Also, think that they are an even better version of the Ancient Behemoths, especially having a higher price.
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evildustructor
evildustructor


Known Hero
Pizza Man dominos pizza yummy
posted November 09, 2020 12:39 PM
Edited by evildustructor at 12:42, 09 Nov 2020.

and they require you to commit to the powerstack early on if you want a chance of ever going sea dogs lol, the build order is too much for most games sea dogs barely see any play i'd rather have them buffed than nerfed for real even in larger n longer games i haven't seen sea dogs get much action, cost and build order makes them very niche, accurate shot is what defines the whole unit design and it's good as is

but ye i think they're fine, hota crew probably realizes it isn't time to listen to phoenix 4 ever having his 10000th baseless complaint, cove would do good with a slight buff not even more nerfs tbh

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted November 09, 2020 01:44 PM

Phoenix4ever must realize that nerfs to some insignificant (meta-wise) unit because "under ideal circumstances it can do X or Y" isn't the way to make Hota a better experience for everyone.

Basically the way would be:

1. identify "the meta" - i.e. what good players do sort of automatically because it's the only sane thing to do. Such as: going for creature banks asap because they provide overpowered rewards, not building certain dwellings, not recruiting certain units, etc.
2. challenge that internally i.e. create test versions and see if the game becomes better (more diverse usually means better) once an "axiom" has been removed. I.e. creature banks give less creatures, or different ones. Or no creatures at all.
3. Collect feedback from players participating in test versions.
4. Release a complete version with changes that made the game better, not worse.
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Supreme Hero
Undercover modder
posted November 09, 2020 01:50 PM

Also, let's keep in mind, one barely manages to get Sea Dogs even on rich maps. And again, they have fatal weaknesses as well.
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Ghost
Ghost


Legendary Hero
Therefore I am
posted November 09, 2020 02:07 PM

Mighty Gorgons are stronger than Sea Dogs.

Example of

H4 Black Dragon has the same stats, and it upgrades to Darkness Dragon, then stats are att 50 def 50 hp 800 dmg 110-135 speed 8 cost 16000 gold plus 8 sulfurs are strongest creature or tie with Gorynych (Megadragon) are the same AI value and fight in my map Homecoming. Other monsters pay 8000 gold and some resources, except Ghost Behemoth pays 5500 gold and 4 crystals.

Mighty Gorgons kill 16000 + 8 value! Headache as we imagine the Sea Dogs. The answer is hp and amount of damage.
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Supreme Hero
Undercover modder
posted November 09, 2020 02:13 PM

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